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Something brewing in Israel
eye on the ground | July 18 2007 | American in Israel

Posted on 07/17/2007 10:56:59 PM PDT by American in Israel

Just a freeper observation, but there are strong indications that next week, during the time of the 9th of AV, that there will be a serious Arab attack on Israel.

The word on the street from the local Palestinians is to quote from a few "There will no longer be a Zionist problem in Palestine this month." Nobody is really talking, but I am getting veiled warnings from Palestinian friends. One such warning was a rather cryptic answer to a pointed question about war with Israel; "Do you know what the 9th of Av is? Every time Israel fights a war on the 9th of Av it looses"... People refuse to talk about war or answer any direct questions. This is very uncharacteristic for Palestinians; usually they are very verbally expressive. The following is what got me to finally write this note to you all. It is an excerpt from an email sent to me by a friend.

Today we had business to do in Jerusalem, so we left our home at 7 am and traveled down the east side of the Galilee, through Bet Shean and past the check point at Sede Trimot in the Jordan Valley.

Once we entered the Jordan Valley as we passed through the Arab agricultural areas we noticed the following which is most unusual;


1. There were no people visible working the in the fields. 2. There were no children along the side of the road.
3. There were no tractors or other farm vehicles anywhere to be seen.
4. All of the vegetables had been completely harvested and the fields were 100% empty.
5. No preparation of the fields was evident for the next planting...Plastic was everywhere from the prior crop.
6. The greenhouses had no plants in them..... 7. The vegetable stands that are normally filled to the brim from the harvest were completely vacant.
8. This is the peak season for growing vegetables in the Jordan Valley, yet everything had been harvested and nothing was growing waiting to be harvested or picked.

We concluded our business in Jerusalem and got back on the road again about 2:45 pm heading north up the Jordan Valley. Again, no people, no fruit stands, no crops, nothing!
Do these Arabs know something is about to happen that we do not know is coming? The 9th of Av is on July 23rd, which is the exact day both Temples in Jerusalem were destroyed hundreds of years apart...

This is just not how things are this time of year normally. The entire valley is the best land for growing crops in Israel and completly under the control of the Arabs. This land is the Palestinian food supply. For some reason they do not believe they need the food this year!

A friend of mine that is politicaly connected mentioned that he was thinking that the first attack date for the Arab League may be the 9th of AV, and the Sept/Oct period as the backup date. He does not believe that Syria will be ready by next week, so he thinks they will use the fall back date. However Hamas/Fatah have their people totally prepared for the first date. They may jump, even if Syria gives the no signal.

As a Biblical side reference, Isaiah 14 28-33, and Zephaniah 2 refer I believe to the destruction of the modern day Palestinians. Interestingly enough it says: " I will kill thy root with famine, and he shall slay thy remnant.." Zehpaniah 2 indicates that the industrial city of Ashkelon, (third largest city in Israel I believe), will be wiped out, but that a smoke cloud from its direction will go over Gaza, and I think kill most of the inhabitants there. Ashkelon is due north of Gaza and just a kassams throw away.

This is just a few various observations I am bringing together, but they ominously point to the same thing, a major Palestinian ground offensive may take place just next week.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iran; islam; israel; palestine; war
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Well, Nothing that the Muslims would do would surprise me a bit... (other than a reformation to become an ACTUAL 'Religion of peace'... THAT would surprise the heck out of me.)
So, I'm not ready to completely dismiss any of this report like some of you.

So, I'll just say, God bless Israel, the Israelis (and the rest of us fairly civilized people while he is at it.)

41 posted on 07/18/2007 1:38:49 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: blam

How in the world are they going to smuggler a Pakistani nuke into Israel? A Pakistani nuke wouldn’t be some small suitcase-type affair (because they just aren’t at the level required for that type of miniaturization) and the Israeli border isn’t the Southern U.S. border.


42 posted on 07/18/2007 1:39:52 AM PDT by Constantine XI Palaeologus ("Vicisti, Galilaee")
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To: Tennessee Nana
With the moral depravity that is rampant in this country, our support for Israel is the only thing keeping God from reducing us to smoldering ruins.

Everyone better pray that America never ceases to be a friend to Israel.

43 posted on 07/18/2007 1:52:04 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

I’d say it’s God’s grace that has spared the U.S. (and us all) from our just desserts, not financial support for some state.


44 posted on 07/18/2007 2:17:13 AM PDT by Constantine XI Palaeologus ("Vicisti, Galilaee")
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To: wideminded; American in Israel
Do these Arabs know something is about to happen that we do not know is coming? "Three may share a secret if two are dead." - Benjamin Franklin

It's what old Ben said that makes me skeptical... if your Arab friends "know something", then it's 150% certainty that the Mossad know.

45 posted on 07/18/2007 2:27:07 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: American in Israel

Israel: Respond. Or, don’t Respond.


46 posted on 07/18/2007 2:33:14 AM PDT by FlyVet
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To: American in Israel
Smart Palis are in Paris, London, NYC, Washington and Houston making money or scheming to get Arafat's. Dumb Palis are in Ramallah, etc. eating dirt and believing all sorts of prophetic crap about their "return".

A "return" to Allah is the only thing in their future, if they stick their heads up.

47 posted on 07/18/2007 2:38:48 AM PDT by leadhead (Democracy can withstand anything but democrats)
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To: American in Israel
I checked Debka, they got nothing.
48 posted on 07/18/2007 2:50:12 AM PDT by Pro-Bush (hater)
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To: FlyVet

Israel: Preempt or respond


49 posted on 07/18/2007 2:58:10 AM PDT by steveyp
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To: American in Israel

Thanks for the heads up AiL.


50 posted on 07/18/2007 3:11:03 AM PDT by cmsgop ( "cmsgop" a Mark Goodson / Bill Todman Production)
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To: American in Israel

Keep your powder dry and aim for the whites of their eyes.


51 posted on 07/18/2007 3:14:40 AM PDT by hershey
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To: vbmoneyspender

Throw thousands of missiles at your target then send in troops using pick ups with machine guns and anything else they can think if.


52 posted on 07/18/2007 3:26:49 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: American in Israel

Thanks for the heads up -—


53 posted on 07/18/2007 4:10:29 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: The Chief
I think it looks better as: Lord, God, please bless America.

But, I will certainly understand if HE doesn't.

54 posted on 07/18/2007 4:11:35 AM PDT by thiscouldbemoreconfusing
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To: American in Israel

Bump - interesting observations.


55 posted on 07/18/2007 4:23:19 AM PDT by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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To: American in Israel

I see my own signs.

We have hamas well armed with the weaponry supplied by US tax dollars that fatah gave to them in gaza, and fatah re-armed with more weaponry supplied by US tax dollars in the “west bank.” We have all of the arms moved into lebanon and syria. After years of bellowing, iran is now quietly salivating.

On a gut level, I think people see more than they can admit even to themselves. This year, more people emmigrated out of Israel than immigrated into Israel.


56 posted on 07/18/2007 4:30:01 AM PDT by Lirona
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To: txzman

A History of Tragedies Occurred on the 9th of Av

The Mishna explains the fast because of 5 tragedies that befell Israel on this day: (1) The Israelites would not enter the Promised land of Israel; (2) the destruction of the 1st Temple; (3) the destruction of the 2nd Temple; (4) the capture of Betar; and (5) the city of Jerusalem was overtaken. (8) In addition to the destruction of the First and Second Temples, historically, the time-period between the 17th of Tammuz and the 9th Day of Av, have coincided with other great tragedies for the Jewish people.

In remembrance of Tish B’Av, the Israelites were forbidden entrance to the Promised Land, judged to wander the desert wilderness for 40 years because the spies returned to the
Jewish encampment with an evil report on the Land of Israel.
This caused fear and rebellion among the people which rought
judgment from G-d.

(9) During Tisha B’Av Solomon’s Temple was destroyed by the
Babylonians which began the 70-year captivity. The Babylonians worshipped among their deities, the god, Jupiter, who was equated with Marduk. At the time, the Babylonians thought Marduk to be more powerful because he conquered Judah. The resulting victory shifted many Judeans’ loyalties and this brought about the unfaithfulness and idolatry of Judah. Later, the
destruction of the Second Temple occurred on Tisha B’Av which began the 1,931 year exile.

During Tisha B’Av, the Romans’ destroyed the Temple Mount
and plundered Jerusalem. The Bar Kochba revolt (aka Simon Bar Cochba, a Mashiach-type to the Jews) was halted by Emperor Hadrian (135 C.E.), and the fortress of the Betar rebellion was overrun. (10) The following year Hadrian built a pagan Temple of Jupiter with a city dedicated to the god, Jupiter (the Babylonian Marduk), on the original Temple site. Hadrian renamed Jerusalem ‘Aelia Capitolina’ and also renamed Judea ‘Palestine.’ The Jews were forbidden entrance to the city, and even to look upon it.

Later in history, the Temple Mount was again renamed by the
Muslims as Al Aksa Mosque and Dome of the Rock. Today,
“under the Dome of the Rock is a pentagon-shaped rock with
one portion elevated (where icons or statues of idols, i.e.,
Ashtoreth, were housed...).” (11)Christians continued the lamentations of Israel when Pope Urban II began the First Crusade, and in 1290, where the Jews were removed from England under King Edward I. In 1492,
the Spanish Inquisition removed Jews from Spain, and in this
same year, the Messianic Jew, Christopher Colombus, sailed
in search of the New World and hopes for the future.

This may be true for those who imigrated to the America’s,
but not so for those throughout many parts of Europe. In 1555, the Jews were separated and moved into a Roman ghetto, and in 1914, World War I began which lead to the eventual rise of Hitler. In 1942, Nazism, World War II, and the Holocaust killed Polish Jews from the Warsaw Ghetto who were taken by the Nazis on Tisha B’Av, deported, and numbered among the 800,000 innocent victims exterminated at Treblinka.

For many traditional Jews, it is believed the Mashiach
(or Moshiach) meaning “annointed one,” the Jewish King, will
appear on Tisha B’Av to rebuild the 3rd Temple on the location of the present-day Temple Mount. He will be born of the Tribe of Judah (Yehuda) whose symbol is the “lion,” representing the month of Av. “Behold, the people shall rise up as a great lion, and lift up himself as a great lion.” (12)

The 3 weeks from the 17th of Tammuz to the 9th Day of Av are
representative of the 3rd Day (i.e., 2,000 years x 3rd day 6,000 years): Psalm 90:4, “a thousand years in your sight is like yesterday when it passes.” The culmination of Hosea 6:2: “After two days He will revive us, in the third day He will raise us up, and we will live in His presence.” The first Sabbath after the 9th Day of Av is called Shabbat Nachamu (consolation or be comforted) for the next 7 weeks leading to Rosh HaShanah and Yom Kippur are one of consolation and redemption.


57 posted on 07/18/2007 4:30:59 AM PDT by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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To: AmericaUnited

Very telling statement


58 posted on 07/18/2007 4:35:29 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: American in Israel

I don’t look for any attacks it just wouldn’t make sense for any of the Islamic nations to take on Israel. That said, leaders of Islamic nations are the reigning kings of miscalculation so you have to prepare for anything. If so, it would be Syria and regardless of their training or equipment you must bear in mind they are an Iranian proxy. DinnerJacket needs something to take the heat off and so maybe this year it’s Syria’s turn to run interference.


59 posted on 07/18/2007 4:37:09 AM PDT by WildcatClan (Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: American in Israel

Agreed. Hard to discern.

But SOMETHING IS in the air.

SEEKING AND PUTTING GOD FIRST IS SO ESSENTIALY MOMENT BY MOMENT THESE DAYS.

God be with you and yours, Bro.

Love that land you’re in. God have mercy on all of us this next round whenever it is.

I do expect God to pull more surprises than the enemy pulls.

May GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED.

Big hugs.

Prayers.

LUB,
BLPH,


60 posted on 07/18/2007 4:45:50 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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