Ron Paul leads ALL ‘08 candidates with one-third of military contributions for Q2

The Spin Factor ^ | July 18, 2007

[SJackson]

Actually He is pro-war. As in for constitutionally declared wars. Not the current stack of WINOs we got now....But don’t let that stop your anti-constitutional propaganda of yours.

Then why did he vote for the Authorization to Use Military Force in 2001? It's not a Declaration of War, it's an Authorization, just what it says it is.

Since we're on that topic, from the AUMC That the President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001,

In addition to the 2003 authorization, it seems to me the 2001 authorization applied directly to fighting al Qaeda in Iraq.

Today.

Unless one's position is that al Qaida isn't in Iraq, or wasn't behind 9/11. Or one acknowledges that the 2001 authorization was a mistake.

[Arrowhead1952]

I am in the military and I wouldn’t send one penny to Ron Paul.

[BlackElk]

Detail one bill, just one bill, of substance, introduced (not voted for, not "co-sponsored") by paleoPaulie the wonderwimp on guns that was enacted during his tediously long public career. Bear in mind that he was theoretically part of the GOP majority from 1/95 to 1/97 so the old excuse that the Demonrats dominated Congress won't work.

PaleoPaulie is nothing. PaleoPaulie is an overactive mouth with no effect whatever on public policy. He is all hat and no cattle. If our gun rights depend upon the likes of paleoPaulie, there won't be any gun rights. Or did I forget that paleoPaulie is soooooooo perfect that he cannot be expected to be a mere workhorse when he obviously prefers to be a showhorse (for our nation's enemies).

Will uberconstitutionalist paleoPaulie take federal campaign funds???? Where does he find THAT in the constitution? Isnt the funding of campaigns something reserved to the people ourselves under the 10th Amendment???

The fact that paleoPaulie has a booth at some gun show does not affect public policy. The views of the sponsoring group, however admirable, do not constitute an achievement of paleoPaulie as to public policy. It is true that the hippies, dippies, dopers, anti-American antiwar types, moveon.org types, George Soros and the like won't be there. They will be having their own meetings trying to figure out how to maximize the disruption of their enemies by supporting Muhammed El Paulie, the terrorists' pal in the GOP no less.

[BlackElk]

See #38. You guys ought to get onto the same page.

[BlackElk]

Do you have a problem with Israel that you are being all too careful to specify? Does paleoPaulie?

[deport]

A more complete compilation of statistics by Phreadom shows that presidential candidate Ron Paul leads all 2008 presidential candidates in military contributions from the US Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps and war veterans. Presidential candidate Ron Paul leads with an impressive one-third of all contributions this second quarter according to newly released data from the FEC.

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Of what...... the above....

[HoustonTech]

Although he may not win, Paul's message will be heard loud and clear by the establishment, and he'll go deep in the primaries.

And the guffaws will be just as loud. He will go deep in the primaries, that is for sure. He will have the lowest numbers of every candidate.

[BlackElk]

#65 to specify=NOT to specify

[samtheman]

Ok. I see it now. But as I posted earlier, from the same website, it’s what people write down on a form. Unverified. Anybody can claim to be in the military when filling out that form. It’s not verified.

[BlackElk]

The Titanic “went deep” on her maiden voyage.

[mnehring]

PaleoPaulie is nothing.

IMHO, he is worse than that, he has his followers tricked into thinking he is a pure-Constitutionalist, but in fact, considering his Iraq stance, he isn't that far off from Chuck Hagel.

The problem I have with Paul is that he talks a good talk, but he chooses his battles in ways that, in my opinion, represent very poor judgment. He chooses to fight the 'pure Constitution' battle when our national defense is on the line, by arguing semantics of the term 'war' instead of 'force' and thinking a Letter of Marque will suffice, but when it comes to his own Pork Projects, Paul is just 'playing the game' that everyone else plays..

..and don't even get me started about his failure to differentiate Globalization (in an economic term) from Globalism (political term).. Let's just say I hope it is simply a slip of the tongue and not ignorance..

[mnehring]

Look at the thread in the link I posted in #53.. If you dig into the numbers, you can see that they completely ignore people who list DOD, US Government, or some various forms of military acronyms.. basically, they take what makes Paul look good and ignore what helps the others..

[BlackElk]

I can stomach postponing the MINOR stuff at home (not MAJOR issues like ending abortion and stifling the gay agenda) in order to annihilate the Islamofascist enemy on THEIR turf rather than ours. I am not sure that we cannot have all of these agendas but we can either walk and chew gum simultaneously or prioritize. One way or another, temporary gummint downsizing in time of war is trumped by the necessities arising in war. It does not matter what size government you prefer if you have been beheaded under Sharia law. If you think otherwise, teach your kids (if any) to speak and read the Koran in Arabic. They will need that ability with the legacy that paleoPaulie prefers.

The issue of making gummint smaller will be with us so long as there are elections. Money obsession and materialism do not define conservatism which is a much richer tapestry than libertoonians can manage to imagine.

Insofar as paleoPaulie wants to flee in terror from Iraq as soon as possible (as he most certainly does), and insofar as he injects the AlQaeda and Demonratic foreign policy talking points into every GOP debate, paleoPaulie is in bed with the radical leftists and the rest of America's antiwar enemies. Conservatives are, ummmm, CONSERVATIVES, not libertoonians.

Are you really sure that the MSM does not like paleoPaulie??? They would like to see running 3rd party: a specifically pro-abort GOP figure, and a specifically pro-life GOP figure, and a pro-gun GOP figure, and an anti-gun GOP figure, and a pro-war GOP figure. All as 3rd party types. Why not a "GOP" figure who is antiwar and antiAmerican and a delusional moonbat to boot? If, as usual, no one knows who the hell the obscure moonbat paleoPaulie is, how can he and his supporters be conned into a 3rd party effort?

Why did Archie Bunker call Edith "dingbat?" Answer: He was not acquainted with paleoPaulie.

Peace, dope and Sharia Law, man!

[BlackElk]

Remember when they used to say that Ho Chi Minh passionately loved the United States and the Declaration of Independence and the constitution but had his heart broken when we failed to support his Viet Minh over the French imperialists (merely because kindly Uncle Ho was #2 in Stalin's Comintern and communist boss of all of Asia BEFORE WWII and generally [except for Maoist China after 1955] until his death), that kindly Uncle Ho was the George Washington of his country (that he never set foot in as an adult until WW II and then note the similar gushing gullibility of paleoPaulie's neo-McGovernite supporters.

PaleoPaulie: the Tokyo Rose, Axis Sally and Hanoi Jane of the war against Islamofascism.

[CJ Wolf]

Congressman Paul has introduced more bills each year, more than any single member of Congress. All of them have to do with restoring the Constitution or getting the government to follow the Constitution. Which is why nobody in Congress will pass them.

But they do pass all sorts of 2nd amendment violation crap as most recently showcased in the wake of the VA tech shootings:

http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=43906

Just because congress has gone so far left doesn’t make the laws they pass constitutional. And since you mention it how come that when the Republicans owned congress we saw more gun control bills passed and not repealed?

[CJ Wolf]

“Muhammed El Paulie, the terrorists’ pal in the GOP no less.”

I wish you wouldn’t throw insults and lies around like that. Ron Paul is not a friend of the terrorists at all. All you are doing is showing your ignorance on the matter.

[BlackElk]

Woofie: Name the last member nation of the United Nations to declare war in the formal sense. Date of formal declaration, war, outcome please. Why do you suppose not?

As yet another self-annointed paleoPaulie-backing "constitutional" expert, see Article VI of the original constitution for its Supremacy clause which places mere treaties on a constitutional equal footing with constitutional provisions. Well-recognized principles of jurisprudence require that, in ambiguous situations, the later enactment controls the former. The UN Charter is rumored to have been a later enactment than the original constitution. We NEVER should have entered the UN. Diployakkery is no substitute for interventionist self-directed war. Nonetheless, you can't take parts of the constitution that you like and ignore the rest. Congressional authorizations of military force are our way around feckless pacifist UN provisions and other treaty provisions. The alternative is national suicide.

So, in short, can the crap about constitutionality when you don't know what you are talking about. If you want the end of our nation by gelding our military via paleopantywaists in public office, say so. Don't hide behind faux claims of "constitutionalism."

[BlackElk]

Beats me. If I were in Congress, I would not vote for gun control. When the constitution says that the RTKBA "shall not be infringed", it means "shall not be infringed."

Maybe paleoPaulie gets nothing done because he is all hat and no cattle. Maybe, his colleagues know him better than do his love slaves and know him better than to vote for anything he proposes. To normal Americans of whatever persuasion, paleoPaulie is a nutcase and an antiAmerican antiwar nutcase at that.

If the answer is Ron Paul, it must have been an amazingly silly question.

[BlackElk]

I wish you would stop apologizing for paleoPaulie and his antiwar antiAmericanism and general moonbattery. I won’t get my wish and neither will you.

[BlackElk]

Hmmmm, you mean uber"constitutionalist" paleoPaulie wants federally funded shrimp fishing (and not just for Bubba Gump), nursing scholarships, bus subsidies, TROLLEY (!!!) subsidies, et al. If paleoPaulie wants these things for his district, it just MUST be in the constitution.

Oh, wait!

Thanks for a very necessary post adjusting the attitudes of paleoPaulie's love slaves. Everyone should click on your link.