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Gingrich: Fear Islamic dictatorship
Morning Call ^ | 07/20/07 | Daryl Nerl

Posted on 07/20/2007 9:03:56 AM PDT by P.O.E.

Former House speaker and possible presidential contender Newt Gingrich, speaking Thursday night at Lehigh University in Bethlehem, conjured up images of an Islamic dictatorship in the United States as the consequence of failure in Iraq.

''It isn't about Israel. It isn't about us being in Iraq,'' Gingrich told about 500 people gathered at the Impact '07 leadership conference at Stabler Arena. ''They want to impose their dictatorship on us.'' In grim terms, Gingrich described the most severe consequences for women, who he said would not have been allowed to attend the Lehigh conference.

''If you want to be able to drive, to have a job, to have a checkbook; if you don't want to have to wear a veil; if you want to be able to appear in public without a man, you'd better hope our team wins,'' Gingrich said as he concluded his appearance on the Stabler stage, the first visit to the Lehigh Valley by a potential 2008 White House contender. During a question-and-answer session, event host and radio personality Bobby Gunther Walsh put Gingrich on the spot about his presidential aspirations, but the Pennsylvania-born former congressman from Georgia remained coy. ''Beats me,'' Gingrich said when Walsh asked him if he would run. Asked about a possible running mate, Gingrich said: ''I don't know.''

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 21stcenturycrusades; gingrich; islam; islamicimperialism; islamiclaw; islamonazism; jihadinamerica; muhammadsminions; newt; sharia
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1 posted on 07/20/2007 9:03:57 AM PDT by P.O.E.
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To: P.O.E.
They may not instill “Islamic Law” in the US but they can instill elements of it (including publicly installed prayer rooms, wash basins, prayer times, etc.) and prohibitions of blasphemy or other offenses to the supremacist ideology of Islam (witness Bill Clinton’s statement that the cartoonists should have been prosecuted).
2 posted on 07/20/2007 9:06:54 AM PDT by weegee (If the Fairness Doctrine is imposed on USA who will CNN news get to read the conservative rebuttal)
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To: P.O.E.
''If you want to be able to drive, to have a job, to have a checkbook; if you don't want to have to wear a veil; if you want to be able to appear in public without a man, you'd better hope our team wins,''

Liberals are still clueless about all this. Better to fight Christianity and disarm America in their view.

3 posted on 07/20/2007 9:08:23 AM PDT by Smedley (It's a sad day for American capitalism when a man can't fly a midget on a kite over Central Park)
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To: P.O.E.

That’s a leader right there.

How about a Thompson-Gingrich ticket. Very similar to what we have in our current administration, with Thompson, like President Bush, providing inspriational leadership and Gingrich, like Vice President Cheney, providing policy acumen and detail orientation... and steel.


4 posted on 07/20/2007 9:09:27 AM PDT by onward_xtian_soldier (God Bless America! America Bless God!)
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To: weegee

The first step is not allowing us to report suspicious activity at airports. The Democrats — butt-buddies of the Jihadists — have already taken that step for us.


5 posted on 07/20/2007 9:14:52 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: onward_xtian_soldier

With all his baggage I don’t think Gingrich would be a good choice for Veep. As a person he is definately a good choice, but his past is a major obstacle.


6 posted on 07/20/2007 9:16:08 AM PDT by stm
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To: onward_xtian_soldier

Do you really believe Christian. ie social conservative, voters would vote for a ticket with Newt on it?


7 posted on 07/20/2007 9:16:49 AM PDT by gcruse (Let's strike Iran while it's hot.)
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To: P.O.E.

I love Lehigh. Twice last year they hosted an open videoconference with troops in Iraq. The students saw and heard first hand about how media coverage is slanted toward the negative.


8 posted on 07/20/2007 9:17:47 AM PDT by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: onward_xtian_soldier
How about a Thompson-Gingrich ticket.

I would take the reverse of that!

9 posted on 07/20/2007 9:18:44 AM PDT by irishlass
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To: stm
With all his baggage I don’t think Gingrich would be a good choice for Veep.

Personally, I don't believe the baggage disqualifies him for VP. Clear thinking conservatives would tend to agree with me, I'll bet.

10 posted on 07/20/2007 9:19:14 AM PDT by marvlus
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To: weegee

Islamic fanatics and their “supposed” moderate peace loving brothers, who have already infiltrated our country, will force their Islamic laws on those who are left after their blood bath. IMO, these fanatics will make the Holocaust “small potatoes” compared to their plans for us. Americans are still clueless when it comes to the evil that’s brewing. Descriptions of the horrific slaughter of Americans and others in Iraq seem to have not penetrated the thick skulls of the MSM and most American Liberals not to mention the millions of Americans who have chosen to ignore the winds of war.


11 posted on 07/20/2007 9:21:06 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: P.O.E.

Newt is fairly far off the beam and coming in for a landing anyway. The oil industry report this week said that the industry will not be able to meet demand in the next two decades, and that assumes the ME production is available. The hard problem is that the ME can be lost and taken off line, which would compound the oil supply problem we will have at best into a massive oil supply problem. That in turn would crash the world economy and have other side effects, none of them good. Staying in the ME will ease the problem to the maximum extent possible even if it can’t solve the problem.


12 posted on 07/20/2007 9:21:14 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: marvlus

I personally would not have any problem voting for that ticket but I am concerned about the independent voters. They are going to make or break this election.


13 posted on 07/20/2007 9:21:46 AM PDT by stm
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To: P.O.E.
Slightly off topic -- when clicking on the link to the source website (the Allentown Morning Call), there were ads for the following:

Islamic ringtones (I guess that's the audio of a victim being beheaded with his killers shouting 'Allahu akhbar' in the background)
Islamic banks (don't pay interest, but probably funnel profits to Al Qaeda).

Funny, I never remember reading about Shinto temples and Bund meetings during WW2 ...

14 posted on 07/20/2007 9:22:48 AM PDT by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: stm
With all his baggage I don’t think Gingrich would be a good choice for Veep. As a person he is definately a good choice, but his past is a major obstacle.

So lets see. What's left. They all have baggage. This man was the instigator of the contract for America and it did very well. It's his ideas that might be the thorn in the side of the RATS, MSM and so on.

15 posted on 07/20/2007 9:23:38 AM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: marvlus
Personally, I don't believe the baggage disqualifies him for VP. Clear thinking conservatives would tend to agree with me, I'll bet.

I would have to disagree. Dobson has already had him on "Focus on the Family" earlier this year. At that time, Gingrich gave a preview of how he would handle questions about his past. If Dobson comes out for him, Christian Conservative will follow. Like him or hate him, Right Wing Christians listen to Dobson as he has proven himself over the years. I would vote for Newt because in the arena of ideas-no one even comes close.

17 posted on 07/20/2007 9:30:51 AM PDT by irishlass
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To: onward_xtian_soldier

I think of Thompson as a possible front man too, a former persuasive lobbyist who gets along with everyone. Not my choice for prez.


18 posted on 07/20/2007 9:31:57 AM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: P.O.E.
Where was Newt when he controlled Congress and we were repeatedly attacked by Al Qaeda? Did he pass legislation when he controlled a solidly conservative congress to take the fight to Al Qaeda? NO. Did he pressure Clinton to act and take the fight to the terrorists? NO. Newt is a blow hard that failed to act when we were attacked and he controlled Congress.
19 posted on 07/20/2007 9:32:09 AM PDT by jrooney (The democrats are the friend of our enemy and the enemy of our friends. Attack them, not GW!)
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To: bassmaner

” Funny, I never remember reading about Shinto temples and Bund meetings during WW2 ...”

Maybe that’s why the Framers thought actually declaring war before waging it was better than prosecuting one until it couldn’t be sustained politically. Ah, but what did they know?


20 posted on 07/20/2007 9:33:02 AM PDT by gcruse (Let's strike Iran while it's hot.)
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To: irishlass
I would vote for Newt because in the arena of ideas-no one even comes close.

Which proves my point - clear thinking conservatives would vote for him.

21 posted on 07/20/2007 9:38:05 AM PDT by marvlus
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To: jrooney
Where was Newt when he controlled Congress and we were repeatedly attacked by Al Qaeda?

Newt Gingrich was Speaker of The House from 1995 to 1999. Exactly what Al-Queda terrorist attacks are you referring to that happened on his watch?

22 posted on 07/20/2007 9:41:33 AM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Logical me
I didn't say I wouldn't go fishin' with the man.....


23 posted on 07/20/2007 9:47:32 AM PDT by stm
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To: pgkdan
When Newt was speaker of the House, Osama Bin Laden declared a fatwa against the US that al Qaeda was at war against us. We were already attacked in 1993 on our soil, at the world trade center, so did Newt pass legislation to track down and fight al Qaeda with American troops, since they officially declared war against us and attacked the world trade center a few years earlier, causing the death of 6? NO. When our US embassies were attacked in 1998 by al Qaeda in Africa, causing the deaths of 11 Americans and 100’s more, did Newt pas legislation authorizing the president to send American troops overseas to capture or kill al Qaeda? NO. Newt failed and has no damn right to criticize anyone because he let al Qaeda go unscathed.
24 posted on 07/20/2007 10:00:48 AM PDT by jrooney (The democrats are the friend of our enemy and the enemy of our friends. Attack them, not GW!)
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To: gcruse

I’m an evangelical Christian...I’d vote for a ticket with Newt on it.


25 posted on 07/20/2007 10:01:50 AM PDT by freepertoo
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To: freepertoo

I will not ever vote for Newt. He cheated on his first wife and cheated on his second wife during the time he was speaker of the house. I have always believed that hellary clinton had his FBI file and used his cheating to blackmail him during the budget fight in the fall of 1995. He acted way to meek then.


26 posted on 07/20/2007 10:18:45 AM PDT by american_ranger
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To: jrooney
When our US embassies were attacked in 1998 by al Qaeda in Africa, causing the deaths of 11 Americans and 100’s more, did Newt pas legislation authorizing the president to send American troops overseas to capture or kill al Qaeda?

OK...1 attack during Newt's term as Speaker...you said repeated attacks to begin with. The attack occurred August 7 1998 and Newt resigned November 6,1998. And this was at the height of the Clinton Impeachment scandal, not to mention the off year elections...and you condemn Newt for failing to usurp the powers of the executive and conduct American foreign policy? Give me a break. If you don't like Newt that's fine by me...neither he nor I will lose any sleep over it but to attack him for the reason s you give is simply ludicrous.

27 posted on 07/20/2007 10:19:44 AM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: freepertoo

Sadly, poster 26 would neutralize your vote.


28 posted on 07/20/2007 10:20:49 AM PDT by gcruse (Let's strike Iran while it's hot.)
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I think I’d be less worried about head scarfs and checkbooks, and more worried about getting my head sawed off. But I’m funny that way.


29 posted on 07/20/2007 10:25:57 AM PDT by svanni
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To: pgkdan
Newt already knew we were attacked on our soil in 1993 and Osama Bin Laden declared in a fatwa al Qaeda was at war with us in 1996, three years before he stepped down. Three years!!! Why did Newt not pass legislation that we were at war with al Qaeda then and give the president congress approval to send American troops to fight al Qaeda and Osama? Why? He had a solidly conservative Congress and could have. Newt did not think al Qaeda was a threat, so he did not. He failed us, like Clinton did. We could have been taking the fight to al Qaeda in the mid to late 90’s maybe preventing 9/11. We did not because of cowards like Clinton and Newt. Defending Newt is ludicrous.
30 posted on 07/20/2007 10:26:35 AM PDT by jrooney (The democrats are the friend of our enemy and the enemy of our friends. Attack them, not GW!)
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To: stm

I really like the guy, at least ideologically. Like you’ve said, not a good choice for executive office. He’s make a great cabinent member.


31 posted on 07/20/2007 10:37:38 AM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: Dead Dog
But the former House speaker saved his deadliest venom for Senate Democrats, accusing them of ''trying to defeat the U.S. in case Gen. [David] Petraeus wins'' during a marathon debate on the war Wednesday night. Petraeus commands the U.S. military forces in Iraq.

''If Gen. Petraeus tomorrow morning announced the death of al-Qaida and peace in Iraq, a third of the U.S. Senate would be deeply disappointed,'' Gingrich said.

"There he goes again, attacking my patriotism!"


32 posted on 07/20/2007 10:56:43 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (The Democrat Party: radical Islam's last hope)
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To: Dead Dog

Newt can talk a good fight.


33 posted on 07/20/2007 10:57:37 AM PDT by OldArmy52 (Bush's Legacy: 100 million new Dem voters in next 20 yrs via the 2007 Amnesty Act.)
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To: american_ranger
I will not ever vote for Newt. He cheated on his first wife and cheated on his second wife during the time he was speaker of the house.

He not only cheated on his wife the entire time the House was impeaching Xlinton, he divorced her while she was on her deathbed, dying of cancer.

Automatic loss for the GOP to put him on the ticket. Women will not vote for that. Personally, I'd have problems voting for it and I really like Newt, thought he was a great leader of the '94 Congress and only failed by losing his guts over Xlinton's government shutdowns.
34 posted on 07/20/2007 11:02:34 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa)
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To: bassmaner

the ads were GOOGLE ads, but I know between Philly and Easton there are more Muslims now than when I left 10 years ago.


35 posted on 07/20/2007 11:02:40 AM PDT by huldah1776 (Worthy is the Lamb.)
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To: jrooney

What good is passing legislation to authorize the president to use troops to hunt Al Qaeda...

...when the President already had that authority... and would not have used it in the first place.

You seem to think that the Speaker of the House has the power of the President, for some odd reason.


36 posted on 07/20/2007 11:11:55 AM PDT by gogogodzilla (Republicans only win if they are conservative.)
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To: jrooney

Newt handed the Republicans control of Congress for the first time in over thirty years. Yet you trash him. Where’s some of that ‘loyalty’ you espouse on your profile page?


37 posted on 07/20/2007 11:20:56 AM PDT by gcruse (Let's strike Iran while it's hot.)
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To: jrooney
You act like Newt was running the Country. Seems we had a President, Senate , House, and tons of real Americans that had their head up their butts and just didn’t have enough proof who did what. Putting the blame on Newt shows you just don't like Newt.
38 posted on 07/20/2007 12:05:37 PM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: gcruse
Do you really believe Christian. ie social conservative, voters would vote for a ticket with Newt on it?

Depends on the alternatives. I think Christian conservatives would vote Thompson-Gingrich ticket before they would vote for Romney, for example.

39 posted on 07/20/2007 12:10:00 PM PDT by Heartland Mom (Build the fence, secure our borders, deport illegals - Protect our sovereignty!)
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To: samtheman
The Democrats — butt-buddies of the Jihadists

Boy, you hit the nail right there my friend.

40 posted on 07/20/2007 12:21:42 PM PDT by Catholic Canadian ( I love Stephen Harper!)
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To: P.O.E.
Not going to happen. Not in my life time anyway.

Sharia law, fear this...

5.56mm

41 posted on 07/20/2007 12:24:27 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: marvlus
Personally, I don't believe the baggage disqualifies him for VP. Clear thinking conservatives would tend to agree with me, I'll bet.

His baggage may not disqualify him, but this does.

42 posted on 07/20/2007 1:44:16 PM PDT by xjcsa (Hooey denier)
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To: xjcsa
This, I mean.
43 posted on 07/20/2007 1:48:16 PM PDT by xjcsa (Hooey denier)
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To: xjcsa

You’re right. I forgot about that. He will have to explain himself on that if he ever enters the race.


44 posted on 07/20/2007 1:49:30 PM PDT by marvlus
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To: stm

With all his baggage I don’t think Gingrich would be a good choice for Veep. As a person he is definately a good choice, but his past is a major obstacle.”

If I am asked to chose between smarts and past, I want his smarts.

Having a person with a squeaky clean past who is totally naive about the dangers of radical Islam does no one in this country any good.

I want a Gingrich and a Guliani who really understand the imminent dangers than a person who thinks we can “talk” to the enemy.

While I would not want to diminish the losses we have suffered in Iraq, we lost more than 54,000 members of the military in Viet Nam while “Congress and the protestors” tried to run a “controlled conflict”. They weren’t even allowed to call it a war.

Wake up people!!!!


45 posted on 07/20/2007 1:53:34 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: marvlus
You’re right. I forgot about that. He will have to explain himself on that if he ever enters the race.

Yeah, I consider it my job to make sure FR doesn't forget that treachery. Newt is supporting the second most dangerous threat to our freedom (ecotardism, second only to Islamism).

46 posted on 07/20/2007 2:03:23 PM PDT by xjcsa (Hooey denier)
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To: P.O.E.

Newt is Right.


47 posted on 07/20/2007 3:24:02 PM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: P.O.E.

Islamic dictatorship in the US?

Yeah, I’m not going to worry about that one...


48 posted on 07/20/2007 4:39:40 PM PDT by Natchez Hawk (What's so funny about the first, second, and fourth Amendments?)
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To: stm
With all his baggage I don’t think Gingrich would be a good choice for Veep. As a person he is definitely a good choice, but his past is a major obstacle.

And what is it about his "past" that is so disqualifying?

49 posted on 07/20/2007 5:24:12 PM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: P.O.E.
But the “War on Terror” is just a “bumper sticker” according to Democrat John Edwards (aka Pink Sapphire)so this must just be more GOP fear-mongering.
50 posted on 07/20/2007 5:42:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum)
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