Posted on 07/20/2007 7:39:51 PM PDT by RTO
Ted Kennndy far ass should over there fighting ..
Then tell me about ROE.
Oh, and make them do clean up detail of the vehicles after an IED attack.
gawd, thank you. I thought I was the only one to think that way.
Sounds like a problem solving solution to me. Good idea!
You meant 'fat'? Or that his ass is so big, that the edge of it is far from the rest of him?! :)
I couldn’t agree more.
Since when is ‘guidance on the use of force’ a part of a winning strategy in war?
Our forces in Iraq have what it takes to contain terrorism and set up an eventual scaled-down permanent, prophylactic presence in the Middle East (the only thing that can provide any hope of winning the wider ‘war’ against Islamic fascism).
As is the case with so many of our domestic policies, the politically-correct lawyer types (*spit!*) are handcuffing those who are putting their lives on the line in order to achieve the most crucial military victory in the history of mankind.
And we’re doing the same damn thing on the other critical front in this war.
What was perpetrated on Border Patrol Agents Ramos and Compean on our southern border is being similarly perpetrated on our soldiers on the ground in Iraq. We are handcuffing, overwhelming with legal technicalities, and in some cases punishing, our defenders.
U.S. Border Patrol agents are presumably charged with stopping anyone (certainly potential terrorists) from entering this country illegally. Yet their rules of engagement state that an agent must believe that his own life is in danger before using deadly force (i.e., he cannot fire on someone sneaking across the border and refusing to stop, unless he can later prove in a court of law that the invader intended to kill him).
Similarly, according to our military rules of engagement, an American military man, when facing an enemy combatant in the Middle East – an enemy that thinks nothing of torturing, dismembering, beheading, or burning alive anyone who does not believe as he does – ‘must hesitate and be careful before pulling the trigger’.
One does not win a war by practicing suicidal insanity on the battlefield.
As a contributor to my weblog recently wrote:
No more talk, no more lies, no more dissembling, no more diplomacy. They stop, and they stay stopped, or they die, and their countries die with them. In Iran, in Syria, in Somalia, in Waziristan, leaders and civilians who support terrorists have forfeited their right to breathe the air of this planet. We don't have to occupy them, we don't have to rebuild them, we don't have to ‘bring them to justice,’ or grant them habeas corpus or let them have lawyers. We just have to destroy them.
And to the many here among us in America who serve as either purposeful or unwitting cogs in their propaganda machine (many of whom serve in leadership positions in Washington): The still-activist sixties leftist flower children -- now dupes, or avowed One-World Marxists -- have every right to continue to wallow in their ignorance-induced or liberty-loathing stupor. But don’t attempt to bring me, and my informed, patriot countrymen into your mirage. We have better things to do just now, and, concerning those ‘better things’ ... be forewarned ... you are counted among the enemy.
~ joanie
Allegiance and Duty Betrayed
While I do agree with your sentiments, and thoughts, on the above (as well as the rest of your post), IMHO, although it is true that the Generals are "in charge" of war strategies and implementation, they get their MARCHING ORDERS from the Commander in Chief. I submit to you it is Bush who is handcuffing the generals and allow our military men to be sacrificed for the sole purpose of "winning the hearts and minds" of the islamofascists. However, we know, and they know, they will NEVER win over their hearts or minds.
Thus, this begs the question: WHY is Bush having the generals follow such suicidal rules of engagement? Besides the needless and pointless cost of lives with our military, it can have but no other effect but to lower their morale. They were not trained to "hesitate" before pulling the trigger on the enemy, for, as anyone trained in any kind of gun weaponry, hesitation will kill you. You don't pull out your weapon for any reason but to kill.
I have no idea where to search but I wouldn’t be surprised to find that the ROE are in some UN agreement.
I just tried searching and have come up empty with regard to anything directly tied to Iraq and this country. You are likely correct in your presumption. Maybe pph or WB is aware of something....or how to locate it.
I'm just throwing that out there.
That’s a thought. ty
Very well put! Bravo.
I know the UN is trying to establish a "World Tax" (Carbon Tax comes to mind), with the goal to create a standing army.
If that comes to pass, the armies of the nation states ... well I think thats about far enough on this.
They also proposed taking over the internet, did they not?!
Yes they did - can’t have the unwashed masses running around with real information - can they.
No, of course not. Information is antithetical to their needs to brainwash the masses. Information is “dangerous.”
actually they need us in third world status
And this is where Bush deserves much or all of the "credit". The moment he dropped plans to punish the "axis of evil" (Syria, Iran & Others) and decided to micromanage a politically correct war complete with militarily strangling "rules of engagement", it was lost. With no political capital left to use, he is unable to mount any aggressive action at all, thereby encouraging the DBM and Rats to pile on. It is sad to watch.
My opinion as well.
Yes. They’re working fast and furious for that to occur.
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