Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 22 July 2007

Various big media television networks ^ | 22 July 2007 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

[snugs]

The Duchess of Cornwall is her official title in England in Scotland Duchess of Rothesay

[shalom aleichem]

I can see Chaney from his undisclosed location thubs going wild on his joystick controller as he zooms in on a Taliban supply train crossing the Pak border (i.e. a camel and a mule). Boom boom.

[Phsstpok]

Remember the Stone Age Press saying the Taliban was preparing for a Spring/Summer offensive in Afghanistan? Remember how doomed out troops were going to be? Wrong again Pravda.

A common statement, roughly transliterated from Russian, during the Soviet era was:

“There is no truth in Pravda [Russian for ’truth’]. There is no news in Izvestiya [Russian for ’news’—the official newspaper]”

Sounds about right. 

[gov_bean_ counter]

Will Excalibur mount on a Predator?

[mtnwmn]

Been away entertaining a grandson....but: love your Media Nuggets. IMHO Kiran Chetry was FNC’s loss and CNN’s win; Kudlow is smarter than O’Reilly and a true conservative; do you suppose Liz Claman might join the new Fox Financial Network?

[mtnwmn]

I have made many of these same arguments...I will continue to try and convince him....he just wants us to nuke them all. Somehow I don’t think that would play out very well on the world stage!

[mtnwmn]

There’s only one other in my household too! Unless you want to count the dog.

[Alas Babylon!]

Dude, if you had a Fembot in your closet, something would be firmly pushing somewhere, I’m sure!

[bray]

Would have loved to heard the cloakroom discussion between Harry Reidtard and Byrdbrain about the sleepover. Bet that wasn’t pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pr.....

Pray for W and Our Troops

[gov_bean_ counter]

:)

[MNJohnnie]

Point out to him Napoleon in Spain, the Nazis in Eastern Europe and the Russians in Afghanistan tried a sort of “nuke them all” strategy. It sounds good, it doesn’t work.

I would just leave aside the obvious problem of the basic immorality of killing mass numbers of innocence's just because Americans find it emotionally unpleasant that the real world is an awkward, difficult place.

My suggest to all those people so upset about Iraq?

TURN OFF THE NEWS. Quit worrying about it. Iraq is a matter of supreme indifference to the lives of 95% of Americans. They neither know anyone in Iraq or even in the Military.
Just stop worrying about it and let the sheepdogs get on with their job of killing the wolves.

Too many American “Conservatives” are allowing the Anti American Leftist that dominate the US “News” media to manipulate their emotions. The ONLY reason they think they have to be upset about Iraq is because they listen to the nonsense screamed at them 24-7-365 by a drama queen media culture.

Another thing, turn them on to this website.

These are guys who have been there, done that. These are the people the people at home should be listening too. Not the political propagandists pretending to be “Journalists”.

How many times do Conservative have to be lied to by the failed “news media” before they stop taking their noise as credible, factual and honest? I can think of at least 2 dozen lies told by the News media since 09-11-01 without even really trying.

http://www.vetsforfreedom.org/

[MNJohnnie]

Point out to him Napoleon in Spain, the Nazis in Eastern Europe and the Russians in Afghanistan tried a sort of “nuke them all” strategy. It sounds good, it doesn’t work.

I would just leave aside the obvious problem of the basic immorality of killing mass numbers of innocence's just because Americans find it emotionally unpleasant that the real world is an awkward, difficult place.

My suggest to all those people so upset about Iraq?

TURN OFF THE NEWS. Quit worrying about it. Iraq is a matter of supreme indifference to the lives of 95% of Americans. They neither know anyone in Iraq or even in the Military.
Just stop worrying about it and let the sheepdogs get on with their job of killing the wolves.

Too many American “Conservatives” are allowing the Anti American Leftist that dominate the US “News” media to manipulate their emotions. The ONLY reason they think they have to be upset about Iraq is because they listen to the nonsense screamed at them 24-7-365 by a drama queen media culture.

Another thing, turn them on to this website.

These are guys who have been there, done that. These are the people the people at home should be listening too. Not the political propagandists pretending to be “Journalists”.

How many times do Conservative have to be lied to by the failed “news media” before they stop taking their noise as credible, factual and honest? I can think of at least 2 dozen lies told by the News media since 09-11-01 without even really trying. Simply TURN THEM OFF. Listening to the US “News Media” on Iraq is the equivalence of tuning into radio Berlin in 1943 to find out how the Allies were doing!

http://www.vetsforfreedom.org/

[MNJohnnie]

Pravda Ne Izvestiya, Ivestiya ne Pravda.

There is no truth in the news, there is no news in the truth.

[maica]

I find it more that a little ironic that Harry Reid attempted using sleep deprivation in an attempt to break the Republican’s will.

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Great point. I will definitely use it with my doubting friends, and any moonbats who get in my way.

[mtnwmn]

Yes, we need to stop listening to the lies the MSM report over and over again, day in and day out.

[Phsstpok]

Pravda Ne Izvestiya, Ivestiya ne Pravda.

There is no truth in the news, there is no news in the truth.

That's the right one.  Until you posted I had forgotten that they were intertwined like that.

thanks
 

[MNJohnnie]

Pazalestia

[AliVeritas]

Heads up, should be on this Sunday’s discussion.

You don’t know the half of it...

Not only is he engaged to someone who edits/researches at TNR and who also works for, wait for it... The Center for Public Integrity in D.C., he wrote for a liberal campus magazine, he and his friend campaigned for the Dean campaign, and took a bus down from Columbia for a women’s rights march. They’ve fired someone at TNR for “helping bloggers” (as if we needed help, the guy posted to Jimbo at Blackfive right after the story came out.. I guess Foer didn’t know that), but didn’t worry about the morale and life of the boots on the ground or driving their Vietnam socialist BS plan. There’s a lot more as well.

Check it out.

http://www.riehlworldview.com/

This may also be a good time for those who couldn’t afford the book to read these:

http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/07/21/the-shadow-party-the-sixth-sis/

Dean Barnett, Curt at Flopping, Malkin and all the Milblogs such as Mudville, Blackfive and others have worked this down to the ground... and we’re still not finished. Believe it or not, this goes deeper... still digging. Will post links for weekend catchup of all the phases later.

[Phsstpok]

Honorable Mention Awards for July 22, 2007

Listed Alphabetically - without text (next post includes text)

altura; #158; #164;

Bernard; #240;

BusterBear; #117;

ClaireSolt; #184;

eeevil conservative; #30;

EQAndyBuzz; #40;

gov_bean_ counter; #232; #259;

Gritty; #202;

khnyny; #125;

mainepatsfan; #33; #35; #45;

Mr Rogers; #238;

mtnwmn; #63;

patriotspride; #224;

rodguy911; #237;

shalom aleichem; #207;

snugs; #120;

STARWISE ; #216;

stockstrader; #59;

TomGuy; #137;

[Phsstpok]

Honorable Mention Awards for July 22, 2007

Listed Alphabetically - with text

altura

• #158; "'I think many conservatives don’t feel saving one Iraqi is worth one soldier or American. They can’t seem to focus on the big picture.' ... I hear the same thing in my household (and there is only one other person in my household). ... We have a moratorium on discussing it. He’s very conservative but a pacifist. He doesn’t think we should have fought the revolutionary war!!! ... He uses that one American life line also on the rare occasions when we discuss it. ... He is a veteran by the way but ...." (Note: reply to mtnwmn's #63)
• #164; "Mommy, can I go to re-education camp this summer? ... Senator Kerry says it’s just swell." (Note: reply to Bahbah's post #106)

Bernard

• #240; "... I have to disagree that countries have atoned for their failure to participate in Iraq.The French and the Germans, especially, should remember what their countries would look like today if America had not stepped up 65 years ago. They could easily take the lead in a UN force that would provide peace-keeping in Iraq. Instead, they choose to stay at home and let the US take the heat and casualties."

BusterBear

• #117; "'Seems Harry is just too dumb to know when to simply fold a losing hand and move on.' ... He can't. There is too much pressure (and money) from Democrat Party supporters. Excerpt from interview with Buzz Patterson: ... 'The Left’s campaign against America’s War on Terror is a well-coordinated, well-financed operation that involves individuals and institutions from all parts of our society. Leading Democratic politicians, major media outlets, academia, popular culture, and a host of deep-pocketed radical organizations combine to form a Fifth Column that undermines our military’s heroic efforts in this global campaign.' ... Harry Reid is just a tool." (Note: reply to MNJohnnie's post #23)

ClaireSolt

• #184; "C-span has a fascinating interview by a Wapo correspondant and a CA professor who wrote Perfect Spy. You wouldn't believe it without seeing it. The big news is that this Viet Cong spy worked for Time magazine and all of the American journalists relied on him. ... There is no consideration of how that colored the news we got. The whole conversation is a justification for the spin of the anti war movement that we were interfering on the wrong side of a nationalistic civil war." (Note: reference is to Pham Xuan An, a North Vietnamese Intelligence Colonel who worked for Reuters and Time Magazine as a correspondent during the war)

eeevil conservative

• #30; "Harry will keep trying every trick he can. ... He and his gang are willing to join in the enemy in propaganda and political means to hurt this country. ... His pathetic pandering to the enemy is born of nothing more than pure hatred of Bush and America." (Note: reply to MNJohnnie's post #23)

EQAndyBuzz

• #40; "A debate in the french parliment over whether cheese should be white or yellow would be better then any sunday lineup."

gov_bean_ counter

• #232; "The Republicans have no one but themselves to blame for the fact that Hillary remains a viable candidate president. I sent the RNC an email years ago suggesting that local politicians lampoon her ridiculous ideas at every turn. She needed to be minimized. ... But nooooo. Newt has to partner with her on health care. Trent practically drooled over her. And the list goes on and on. ... Republicans have granted her a legitimacy she has not earned and does not deserve. ... Once again as Pogo said, 'We have met the enemy...'"
• #259; "I find it more that a little ironic that Harry Reid attempted using sleep deprivation in an attempt to break the Republican's will. I thought SD was torture. So, Harry Reid was willing to use a tactic against his fellow Senators that he is not willing to allow US interrogators to use against people who would like to blow US to bits. ... And if the Republican Party had any members with a set of them, they would be making this point over and over and over again."

Gritty

• #202; "'Hillary knows how to get thing done?... Since when is doing nothing 'getting things done'?' ... Oh, when she gets a mind to she can get things done quickly... 14 Years Later, Mystery Still Remains in the Death of Vince Foster" (Note: reply to MNJohnnie's post #171)

khnyny

• #125; "'Watching Chris Matthews show and his panel ... with David Gregory playing top general and telling us how the war should be handle ... is well ... to stupid to even waste time on' ... Usually, I don't care for Gregory, but he did make a rather intelligent point at the end. He said that the left has to figure out how to separate it's hate of Bush and Iraq and figure out a way to actually fight terrorism (not an exact quote, but close.) IMHO, very true." (Note: reply to Mo1's post #114)

mainepatsfan

• #33; "Notice how when the Dems fail to get something passed it’s reported as 'Congress fails' rather than 'Dems fail'."
• #35; "The last thing the DBM wants to do is a story on what this congress has been incapable of doing." (Note: reply to maica's post #29)
• #45; "When moderates vote the way the DBM wants them to they’re portrayed as 'courageous or independent'. However if they don’t the DBM uses adjectives to describe them like 'pandering, bowing to special interests'.”

Mr Rogers

• #238; "The Taliban WAS planning a spring offensive. Then 3-10 was extended an extra 4 months so that we went from 1 maneuver brigade in RC East to 2 of them. There is still a fight there, but it makes it a lot harder on the Taliban when there are more American soldiers there."

mtnwmn

• #63; "I hear the same responses right here in my own household in AL. I think many conservatives don’t feel saving one Iraqi is worth one soldier or American. They can’t seem to focus on the big picture." (Note: reply to Alas Babylon!'s post #56)

patriotspride

• #224; "... did you see Brits ultimate putdown of Juan ? ... Chilling................ As I recall he told him to read the news more closely(signs of positive progress) before making his negative statements. ... This was in response to a jab by Juan testing Brits position on whether the Iraq war was being won , and challenging his credibility....... Brit frosted Juan to the extent that Mara looked shell shocked. ... This segment is worth a rewatch if you can see it again. ... Hooray for Brit.........."

rodguy911

• #237; "I heard the spin this moring on Wolf/blitz 'lame sources' or something like that, from turbin durbin as to why dingy killed off all comments, they 'doubled the number of pubbie converts' from 2-4!! With logic like that—oh well it is the demon party, they are all terrorista all the time."

shalom aleichem

• #207; "A lot of this may be moot after tomorrow. That is the 9th of Av which is said to be when the Arabs will come after Israel (again). Historically this is the day the First and Second Temples were destroyed 656 years apart. If this unfolds, maybe Paris, Britni, Posh and dog lover Vick will take back seats in the DBM for awhile. ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tisha_B’Av" (Note: reply to Alas Babylon!'s post #205)

snugs

• #120; "I remember reading an article a few years back that was criticizing the President for not mingling with the Washington crowd and comparing it with the VP who they said is often seen in the evenings at some do or holding a social gathering at his official residence which is often an intellectual discussion. ... It is remarkable that this is about the only time I have read this comment about the VP, I assume it does not fit the DBM/dems to have it known that he is not the dark evil figure that does not socialize. Does not fit their image of him I bet that article is now well buried."

STARWISE

• #216; "MUST SEE video of Sec.Def. Gates speaking at the Marine Corps Association dinner this week .. he breaks down, very emotionally describing the heroism and gallantry of Capt. Doug Zembiec (promoted to Major posthumously), the Lion of Fallujah. It’s very moving. ... His whole speech is on the left just under the Pentagon Channel logo ... it’s VERY worthwhile to hear his inside the beltway/political slamming, and most especially: his assessment of the scope and nature of this WOT. ... The written version is here: ... Rest in peace, brave warrior. God bless and protect our awesome troops! ~~~ 'Killing is not wrong if it’s for a purpose, if it’s to keep your nation free or to protect your buddy.' ... Maj. Doug Zembiec, The Lion of Fallujah"

stockstrader

• #59; "'And just what has the US Congress accomplished this year that justifies them taking a 6 week summer vacation EVERY year'? ... Actually, I wish they would take a six week vacation in the winter, spring, summer AND fall. The less time they spend 'on the job' in Washington--the better for us all. The less legislating they do--the less damage they do. ... When you look at many of the liberal, big government 'knows best' programs, and so-called progressive/intrusive/regulatory laws that they pass, I'd much rather have LESS legislation, not more." (Note: reply to MNJohnnie's post #32)

TomGuy

• #137; "'while CNN did REAL Iraq Reporting. Changing Times?' ... I have recently been tuning CNN in more often during the day, as FoxTabliodTrash4News seem to be moving toward the sensationalism over hard news. ... I have actually been surprised that CNN is more hard news and they don't seem to be having as much of an obvious left slant as they used to have. ... CNN Commentators still tend leftward, but at least they are talking about hard news. ... The first afternoon I watched CNN was the day blondie Hilton got out of prison. That was about all FoxNews covered. CNN (Blitzer) never mentioned the blond during 2 hours of news. The only mention on CNN was in a promo that Hilton was to be a guest on Larry King Live. ... FoxNews has become so tabloid, I catch the morning headlines and then turn the tv off or over to CNN." (Note: reply to anita's Media Nuggets, post #67)