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Giuliani Has Connection With Accused Priest
Worcester Telegram ^ | 7/22/7 | Shaun Sutner

Posted on 07/22/2007 3:08:25 PM PDT by hardback

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To: SkyDancer
I didn't say you did. It's from the article. I was agreeing with you in that Giuliani is going to crash and burn.

I did forget to point out that Giuliani didn't go with the suggested Bronx (Brooklyn?) location for NYC's Emergency Management Center as well. The memo stated that the Bronx location was a less attractive target than the WTC.

Too much ammo for the Dems, plus his less than conservative social policies.

261 posted on 07/22/2007 6:51:00 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Porterville
Last time I checked, we are allowed to have opinions here. So, has the screw finally turned so that the conservative have became the liberals?

ROFL! Hardly. Read the thread again. Attack conservatives, call people names, attack with no provocation--it gets you banned.

Enough of the false outrage, already.

262 posted on 07/22/2007 6:51:29 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Porterville
I got flamed pretty heavy..... I’ll just avoid these threads in the future all together.

It's all good. Don't get mad or anything, like I said it's nothing personal against you.

The thing is, conservatives are not going to concede ground anymore. That's what the opposition to Rudy is about. Look what happened to CA. Look how the establishment supported Specter in 2004, Lincoln Chaffee, McCain, Harriet Miers, ports deal, shamnesty, etc. Do you think conservatives are going to support an out-and-out liberal just because he has the R on his chest?

A liberal Republican is just as bad as the Democrat. If Rudy wins the nomination, or if he's selected as VP, conservatives are going to stay home or vote 3rd party. You are asking us to forsake deeply held principles for political expedience. No thanks. I'd rather have the Rat in office than a gutless RINO.

263 posted on 07/22/2007 6:52:01 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Calvin Locke

Ok, it’s cool .... was just wondering ....

I’ve read a lot about all the candidates (REP’s and DEM’s) and so far all are lacking ... although I’m taking serious look at Fred Thompson .... but then, who would he be bringing along???
He’s not announced but if he does ......


264 posted on 07/22/2007 6:54:50 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Sweet Blessed Mother of Acceleration, Don't Fail Me Now!")
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To: Porterville
I’ll repost it for you, Shorty:

I know that you think you are smart, but I won't buy into your or Rudy's murder scheme. Sorry. Say it my freind, God Bless Abortion!

265 posted on 07/22/2007 6:55:56 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: Porterville
1. Business owners who hirer illegals should be fined and shutdown if knowing breaking the law. 2. Citizens should be allowed to care hand guns everywhere. 3. The Death Penalty should be fast and streamlined. 4. Partial Birth Abortion Should be Banned. 5. I should be allowed to disc my farm with fear of air quality. 6. If the government gave a damn about gas prices, they’d cut the taxes on a gallon. 7. We need more refineries 8. We need more nuke plants 9. Global warming is a hoax. 10. My property taxes are too high. 11. The government has no right to cutting off my dogs balls. 12. I should be able to buy diesel vehicles in CA 13. A border fence is good. 14. deportation is good. 15. Abortion should be a state issue or banned completely.

Then you should oppose Giuliani:

Business owners who hirer illegals should be fined and shutdown if knowing breaking the law.
A border fence is good.
Deportation is good.
Giuliani has opposed the enforcement of laws cracking down on illegal immigrants and their employers. He opposed the Republican's welfare reform legislation because it took away benefits from illegal aliens. He ran that largest sanctuary city in the U.S. and even sued the Federal Government because he didn't want to obey the law demanding that NYC law enforcment cooperate with federal immigration authorities. He is one of the weakest candidates when it comes to border security and immigration law enforcement.

Citizens should be allowed to care hand guns everywhere.
Giuliani has confiscated more guns than any other candidate in the race, Democrat or Republican. He bragged about the number of guns he confiscated and endorsed Clinton's national gun control proposals.

Partial Birth Abortion Should be Banned.
Abortion should be a state issue or banned completely.
Giuliani has stated repeatedly his support for the partial birth abortion procedure, his opposition to laws restricting partial birth abortion, and has been a strong support of all forms of abortion for any reason at any point in the development of the unborn child. He ran under the Liberal Party ticket every time he ran for Mayor, having their endorsement, mostly because of his liberal abortion positions. He is the most pro-abortion Republican I've ever encountered.

Global warming is a hoax.
Giuliani has very recently stated his belief in global warming.
266 posted on 07/22/2007 6:56:05 PM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: calcowgirl

Agreed and more importantly apparently so did Jim.


267 posted on 07/22/2007 6:57:58 PM PDT by ASA Vet
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To: bjs1779

Okay shorty, okay... little chiuaua wants a tummy rub.


268 posted on 07/22/2007 6:58:56 PM PDT by Porterville (I'm an American. If you hate Americans, I hope our enemies destroy you. I will pray for my soul.)
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To: Porterville
I’ll repost it for you, Shorty:

I know that you think you are smart, but I won't buy into your or Rudy's murder scheme. Sorry. Say it my freind, God Bless Abortion!

269 posted on 07/22/2007 6:59:13 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: the invisib1e hand

“Slander”? Did he not run roughshod over the 2nd amendment, and further, try to bring punitive lawsuits against legitimite manufacturers? Maybe he is exactly what NYC needs, maybe he is telling the truth when he says he won’t do nationally what he did in NYC, but I see no reason to trust him.
I have no need to get into the abortion issue, gays, or anything else, the RKBA issue is bad enough on it’s own.


270 posted on 07/22/2007 6:59:41 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: Spiff
I told you before, it was, what I feel the ridiculousness of the headline. That is why... apparently that was a mistake.
271 posted on 07/22/2007 7:00:17 PM PDT by Porterville (I'm an American. If you hate Americans, I hope our enemies destroy you. I will pray for my soul.)
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To: wtc911

Thank you for posting the article, and for the ‘head’s up’. I too,(after 9-11) thought he might be a good president.

But, since then, so much very negative and very serious information has become available, and now, I would rather vote for my neighbor’s pit-bull. (I would feel much safer.)


272 posted on 07/22/2007 7:01:48 PM PDT by yorkie
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To: Porterville
Okay shorty, okay... little chiuaua wants a tummy rub.

Afraid to talk about abortion are you?

273 posted on 07/22/2007 7:01:50 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: Porterville
If we shut people out rather than having debates then we become more fractured and strident..... But hey... what do I know?.... the echo chamber rules.

It's a CONSERVATIVE forum! What is it about that you don't get? We don't debate the the reasonableness/non-reasonableness of voting for Hillary--it would be wasted bandwidth. As is Rudy!

274 posted on 07/22/2007 7:02:29 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Porterville
This is sad day to see so many strident Freepers ready to shutdown conversation and debate.... wow.... shaking my head... wow.....

How many times are you going to post the same hogwash?

275 posted on 07/22/2007 7:06:47 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Porterville
I told you before, it was, what I feel the ridiculousness of the headline.

What do you find ridiculous about the headline? If anything, it didn't go far enough to state Giuliani's connection to an accused Priest who helped run a center that served as a pedophile sex ring.

276 posted on 07/22/2007 7:06:58 PM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: hardback; finnman69

Gee, what’s the big deal, I thought everyone knew Giuliani hung out with gays in the mayors mansion, cheats on his wife(s), raises money for anti-war communist groups, loves abortions, swears a government-sponsored abortion is a constitutional righyt (but the second ammendment doeant work) etc. (ALL 100% fact) so why wouldn’t he also be best buddies with pedophiles (catholic priests in general)?


277 posted on 07/22/2007 7:07:35 PM PDT by Clam Digger
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To: ASA Vet; Spiff; Jim Robinson
Jim doesn’t want RinoRudy to be nominated and has declared him an enemy of FR.
His Site, his rules. We lost a hundred or more in April who didn’t understand that.

I think you are misrepresenting and oversimplifying what has happened here. There are still plenty of Rudy supporters on FR. Supporting Rudy does not get you banned--calling people names and attacking conservatives/conservatism will.

I personally pinged the AdminModerator twice on this thread to some of California Patriot's abuses. I was called a "dimwitted ignoramus" and told "You and your ignorant, bigoted, hateful, anti-Republican ilk are just venting. Go fart somewhere else." I wrote nothing disrespectful to be on the receiving end of the venom. He also said "'Spiff' and his ilk needs to be squashed like the poisonous snakes they are. "

THIS kind of behavior gets you banned.

278 posted on 07/22/2007 7:13:44 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: bjs1779

Afraid to talk about abortion are you?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
And Afraid to read the FR Mission Statement,,,,

Wants to be an ass-clown with his/her/it’s cracks,,,

Has had his/her/it’s ass handed to him/her/it,,,

Some folks are just “Stuck On Stupid”(Lt.Gen.Rusty Honore).

Please add me-n-Harley to your Dawg-Pack(my page),,,

Sic Em’...;0)


279 posted on 07/22/2007 7:22:13 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Porterville
I definitely will take a different approach towards these slandering headlines....

What is "slandering" about this headline?

"Giuliani Has Connection With Accused Priest"
What in the article do you consider "slander?" These facts have been published before and no one has claimed them to be false.
280 posted on 07/22/2007 7:22:18 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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