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Woman gives birth to healthy son after defying doctors who told her to abort 'disabled' baby
The Daily Mail (U.K.) ^ | July 23, 2007

Posted on 07/23/2007 10:22:11 AM PDT by Stoat

Woman gives birth to healthy son after defying doctors who told her to abort 'disabled' baby

Last updated at 16:03pm on 23rd July 2007

A couple were advised by medical experts to abort their unborn child amid fears he would be severely disabled - but he was born perfectly healthy.

Heather O'Connor and Jamie Bramley went through months of turmoil after being told that scans suggested part of the baby's brain could be missing. But Jake, their first baby, arrived weighing a healthy 7lb 9oz - and with no defects.

Consultants at St Mary's Hospital in Manchester had recommended Heather should abort her child early in her pregnancy in March. But the couple asked for a second opinion and a professor at the Royal Hallamshire Hospital in Sheffield disagreed, saying he believed the child's brain was normal.

 

Heather O'Connor with her son Jake

St Mary's doctors continued to have serious concerns until April, when they said a further ultrasound scan had indicated the child was fine. However, in May, a St Mary's consultant again said they believed the baby's brain was abnormal.

Heather and Jamie decided against a further examination at Sheffield and decided to go ahead with the pregnancy.

Jamie, 24, and Heather, 19, of Heaton Chapel, Stockport, spoke of their anguish in the months before Jake's birth.

It started after a scan at Stepping Hill Hospital in Stockport suggested the child had swelling on the brain and Heather was referred to St Mary's.

Heather had a detailed scan there and doctors said the baby had brain swelling and might have a rare defect. "They said he may end up brain dead or severely disabled," said Jamie.

"They said the scan was 99 per cent reliable and recommended abortion. We were distraught. I asked for further investigations, but the doctor said he was rarely wrong.

"Heather was very distressed and we agreed to go to Sheffield for an MRI scan. The professor at Sheffield said that in his opinion, the baby may be fine. But then at St Mary's, a doctor said the pictures from Sheffield were inaccurate to him.

"We were more confident after seeing the expert at Sheffield, but because of St Mary's views, there was always an awful doubt in our minds."

Heather said: "You didn't know who to believe. But after our experience, maybe other people will not give up hope if something similar happens."

The Central Manchester and Manchester Children's University Hospitals NHS Trust, which runs St Mary's, said: "The decision whether or not to terminate a pregnancy because of a suspected abnormality is a highly individual one and we take great care to ensure patients are aware of all of the facts to allow them to make an informed decision."

The trust said it would 'not actively recommend or dissuade' patients from choosing a termination, but apologised if the family 'were given the impression that they were being advised to take this option'.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: abortion; britain; chooselife; england; goodnews; greatbritain; murder; murdermostfoul; nationalhealth; nhs; socialisedmedicine; socialism; uk; unitedkingdom
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They said the scan was 99 per cent reliable and recommended abortion. We were distraught. I asked for further investigations, but the doctor said he was rarely wrong

Hopefully this story might spur some to consider trusting God over the State-sanctioned, professional murderers.

1 posted on 07/23/2007 10:22:19 AM PDT by Stoat
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To: Stoat

Hillary Care coming soon to a hospital near you!........


2 posted on 07/23/2007 10:24:58 AM PDT by Red Badger (No wonder Mexico is so filthy. Everybody who does cleaning jobs is HERE!.......)
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To: Stoat

Reminds me of the stupid a$$hole nurse-midwife who told us our first son had an 80% chance of being born with Down Syndrome.


3 posted on 07/23/2007 10:26:56 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Stoat
Scientific instruments and people who believe in scientific "consensus" are a dangerous combination.
4 posted on 07/23/2007 10:27:11 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: Stoat

Thanks for posting. God Bless the family.


5 posted on 07/23/2007 10:28:14 AM PDT by subterfuge (Today, Tolerance =greatest virtue;Hypocrisy=worst character defect; Discrimination =worst atrocity)
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To: Stoat
Consultants at St Mary's Hospital in Manchester had recommended Heather should abort her child early in her pregnancy

St. Mary's Hospital??? Recommending abortion????

6 posted on 07/23/2007 10:29:02 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Stoat
Consultants at St Mary's Hospital in Manchester had recommended Heather should abort her child early in her pregnancy in March

Disgusting detail. Needs to be renamed 'Peter Sanger Hospital', not after the Blessed Mother.

7 posted on 07/23/2007 10:30:27 AM PDT by mbraynard (FDT: Less Leadership Experience than any president in US history)
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To: Red Badger

“Hillary Care coming soon to a hospital near you!........”

Yeah


8 posted on 07/23/2007 10:31:30 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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Thanks for posting this story. God Bless that lady for not giving up on her child.


9 posted on 07/23/2007 10:32:23 AM PDT by dellbabe68
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To: Red Badger

This is what will happen with Hillary Care.


10 posted on 07/23/2007 10:33:02 AM PDT by freekitty
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To: Stoat

A friend of mine was told her child would be a Down’s Syndrome child...the doc was wrong. What emotional turmoil he put that family through!!!


11 posted on 07/23/2007 10:33:48 AM PDT by I'm ALL Right! (THOMPSON '08)
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To: Red Badger
Hillary Care coming soon to a hospital near you!........

Perhaps my hope and trust is misplaced, but I have trouble believing that a majority of Americans would allow such a thing.  Even so, the Socialists never care about the majority and will continue trying to sneak Socialist "healthcare" in the back door by misrepresenting it and fooling people....eternal vigilance is essential.

12 posted on 07/23/2007 10:34:18 AM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

good place to bump this thread


13 posted on 07/23/2007 10:35:37 AM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq -- via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: Stoat; EarthBound

Wonderful news!


14 posted on 07/23/2007 10:36:01 AM PDT by MacDorcha ("So what if smoking kills me when I'm 80? Who wants to live to 90 anyway?"- SouthPark)
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To: MEGoody

St. Mary of the Regrettably Mistaken Diagnosis. Or St. Mary of the Unvalued Fetus. Probably a secular humanist “St. Mary” . . .


15 posted on 07/23/2007 10:38:22 AM PDT by Greg F (<><)
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To: Stoat
I asked for further investigations, but the doctor said he was rarely wrong.

And how would he know? How many young mothers actually stand up to him to prove him wrong? My guess is that his proven wrong record just hit 100%.
16 posted on 07/23/2007 10:38:55 AM PDT by SpinnerWebb (Islam... if ya can't join 'em, beat 'em.)
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To: MacDorcha

“What emotional turmoil he put that family through!!!”

There ought to be legal recourse for these parents pain & emotional suffering. Time to put an end to these misguided, so-called medical experts, playing god type of advice.

Add this to mal-practice and it might stop.


17 posted on 07/23/2007 10:39:39 AM PDT by George from New England
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To: Stoat

Reminded me of a ‘B’ movie, Basket Case (1982),

Plot Outline: A young man carrying a big basket that contains his deformed Siamese-twin brother seeks vengeance on the doctors who separated them against their will.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083624/


18 posted on 07/23/2007 10:41:14 AM PDT by Son House (>Every Democrat plan leaves Troops in Iraq, they need to answer for that.<)
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To: Stoat

What a cutie Jake is! God bless this family...and thank God they did the right thing and trusted in God that their baby would be OK.


19 posted on 07/23/2007 10:42:11 AM PDT by blinachka (Vechnaya Pamyat Daddy... xoxo)
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To: SpinnerWebb

How often is an autopsy performed on the aborted fetus to determine if the diagnosis was accurate?

My guess would be 0% of the time.


20 posted on 07/23/2007 10:44:25 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (It's not the heat, it's the stupidity.)
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To: sitetest; I'm ALL Right!
I had acquaintances who were told that their child would be born with Downs. They agonized, but when someone recommended a friend of their's who adopted Downs babies, they realized that if a perfect stranger could love their child, so could they.

They continued through the pregnancy (even being told at 8 months that they could still abort!), and gave birth to a perfect little girl. (The father was barely restrained at delivery time, and the doctor had to leave immediately or be badly beaten.)

A couple of years later they adopted a Downs child. Really good people.

21 posted on 07/23/2007 10:45:02 AM PDT by AnnaZ (I keep 2 magnums in my desk.One's a gun and I keep it loaded.Other's a bottle and it keeps me loaded)
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To: All
Another photo from a different paper:

Heather O'Connor with baby Jake.
Heather O'Connor with baby Jake.

Told to abort perfect baby - Health - News - Manchester Evening News

22 posted on 07/23/2007 10:45:53 AM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat

God bless this baby and his family for not aborting him. May he live a long productive life. As a Dr. perhaps who ENCOURAGES women to have and love their babies no matter what.


23 posted on 07/23/2007 10:47:56 AM PDT by cubreporter ( Rush has done more for our country from where he sits than anyone will ever know.)
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To: sitetest

God bless that 20%.


24 posted on 07/23/2007 10:48:46 AM PDT by sono (Where there is a choice only between cowardice and violence, I would advise violence - M Gandhi)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Scientific instruments and people who believe in scientific “consensus” are a dangerous combination.
_________

The deep end is at the other end of the pool.

Your comment is just a tad overstated. I’d venture that 10’s of thousands times a day, scientific instruments and the consensus of medical professionals work absolute wonders.

To mix my metaphors horribly, feel free to throw the baby out with the bath water.


25 posted on 07/23/2007 10:51:19 AM PDT by dmz
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Can you say “GLOBAL WARMING”!!!!!!!


26 posted on 07/23/2007 10:51:22 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: Stoat

My cousin and her husband were told with 100% certainty that their son would be profoundly deformed and would die shortly after birth. They were told to have an abortion to avoid the anguish of giving birth, but couldn’t bring themselves to do it, thank God.

Today their son is a healthy college student. He was born with absolutely no defects whatsoever, and has been completely healthy his entire life.


27 posted on 07/23/2007 10:52:02 AM PDT by LadyNavyVet
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To: teenyelliott

ping


28 posted on 07/23/2007 10:52:33 AM PDT by definitelynotaliberal
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To: Stoat
Pregnant women are so vulnerable to fear that they can be pushed into almost anything. A certain hospital has become notorious for “browbeating” women into aborting their supposedly severely disabled children. I have a strongly pro-life friend who was almost intimidated into killing her unborn child, despite her convictions, but persevered to bear a wonderfully perfect child. When my friend couldn’t think of anything else to say to the doctor who was insisting she must abort, she said, “My husband would never allow this.” The doctor replied, “Your husband doesn’t have to know.” It really makes you wonder.
29 posted on 07/23/2007 10:52:44 AM PDT by Missouri gal
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To: Stoat

What a precious baby


30 posted on 07/23/2007 10:52:57 AM PDT by Kaslin (The Surge is working and the li(e)berals know it)
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To: Greg F

How can a hospital be called ST. Marys and recommend an abortion.


31 posted on 07/23/2007 10:52:59 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: Stoat

Our last born, we were told he had some kind of cysts or something on his spinal cord and we “should consider taking action” because there is a good chance he will be born with staggering brain damage. He’ll be one next month and he’s a healthy, happy baby boy(Thank you Lord). That was an unnecessarily stressful time for us. Sometimes they think they know too much and we all need to trust God more.


32 posted on 07/23/2007 10:53:48 AM PDT by stevio ((NRA))
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To: cpforlife.org; Coleus; cgk; narses; MHGinTN

I thought that this might be of interest.


33 posted on 07/23/2007 10:55:34 AM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: AnnaZ
Dear AnnaZ,

In our case, the stupid moron nurse-midwife misunderstood the statistics of the outcome of a pre-natal test. In her criminal stupidity, she, of course, raised the specter of “choices” that we had.


sitetest

34 posted on 07/23/2007 10:57:35 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: I'm ALL Right!

We had an experienced ultrasound technician tell us that our son was definitely a girl and I observed him make a note about def. cleft lip.

“Misdiagnosing” gender makes for a funny anecdote, but trying to rely on fuzzy technology to determine anything and everything without any sense of moderation is simply fanatic.


35 posted on 07/23/2007 10:58:37 AM PDT by sbMKE
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To: dmz

Recommending the death penalty needs a better record than 90% obviously they were wrong, if they were wrong then they could not have been certain, and if they were not certain they should not have made the recommendation until they became certain. Your best estimated guess does not support a death sentence.


36 posted on 07/23/2007 10:58:40 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: sitetest

Check to see if the hospital or clinic has a ‘tissues’ contract with a harvesting agency supplying ‘parts’ to research programs. It’s a more than a billion dollar industry now; got to have tissue sources don’tchaknow.


37 posted on 07/23/2007 11:00:48 AM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for those in the womb.)
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To: Stoat

A woman I work with has four children. For all four pregnancies, the doctors predicted the baby’s gender. In all four cases they were wrong.

If the medical profession would stop treating childbirth as a disease, we might all be better off. Medicine, for all of its tests and fancy equipment, really has little understanding of the human body and how it works. And their knowledge about reproduction is probably less than 0.


38 posted on 07/23/2007 11:00:50 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: blinachka

The mother is pretty cute herself, too.


39 posted on 07/23/2007 11:01:16 AM PDT by tlj18 (There's soldiers - and then there are soldiers. Many may be the former - but don't let it be you!!!)
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To: MHGinTN

Dear MHGinTN,

I don’t think there was anything sinister going on here. Just stupidity. Just an inability to understand basic arithmetic and descriptive statistics.

We were working with a group practice of nurse-midwives. All they did was deliver babies.

sitetest


40 posted on 07/23/2007 11:04:06 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Missouri gal
When my friend couldn’t think of anything else to say to the doctor who was insisting she must abort, she said, “My husband would never allow this.” The doctor replied, “Your husband doesn’t have to know.”

That's incredibly creepy ... foul, satanic evil. Was that Dr. Mephistopheles? Dr. Mengele?

41 posted on 07/23/2007 11:04:17 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Stoat
Gorgeous baby!!!
42 posted on 07/23/2007 11:11:18 AM PDT by Bitsy
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To: Stoat
Socialism is the rule in Great Britain now. Is ANYBODY over there married anymore? Other than the slightly obscene Beckham franchise? No marriage means welfare benefits, the gov’t teat is not just for losers anymore.
It’s a way of life now.

God bless the healthy baby!

43 posted on 07/23/2007 11:22:32 AM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: SpinnerWebb
My guess is that his proven wrong record just hit 100%.

You just hit that nail on the head. Nobody checks the waste stream after an abortion to see if the doctor recommending it was correct. I don't even know if doing so is possible.

If a doctor recommends abortion and the parents agree, the doctor is right by definition. And the parents are probably so upset that they cling to the infallibility of the doctor, and never consider the possibility that he may have made a mistake.

44 posted on 07/23/2007 11:32:45 AM PDT by gridlock (Righty Tighty / Lefty Loosey)
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To: sitetest

Was it the fetal alpha protien blood test that the nurse/midwife depended on for that “diagnosis”?


45 posted on 07/23/2007 11:38:41 AM PDT by gridlock (Righty Tighty / Lefty Loosey)
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To: ontap
How can a hospital be called ST. Marys and recommend an abortion.

It's the UK; "St. Mary's Hospital" is run by the government.

46 posted on 07/23/2007 11:38:53 AM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: dmz
>Your comment is just a tad overstated. I’d venture that 10’s of thousands times a day, scientific instruments and the consensus of medical professionals work absolute wonders.

Medicine is an art, not a science.

Climatology, where consensus is King, is supposed to be a science.

47 posted on 07/23/2007 11:39:34 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: gridlock
Dear gridlock,

Yes.

Ironically, the test results didn’t show anything approaching an 80% chance of our son having Down Syndrome.

Rather, it showed and INCREASE of risk of 80% - from a fraction of 1% to a larger fraction of 1%.

But based on the inability to understand the most basic statistics, this woman presented us with the “choice” of killing our son.


sitetest

48 posted on 07/23/2007 11:41:53 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Stoat

May God continue to bless little Jake O’Connor and his loving Mommy and Daddy.


49 posted on 07/23/2007 11:42:45 AM PDT by LucyJo
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To: Stoat

Awesome God bump!


50 posted on 07/23/2007 12:00:37 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ( “A nation without borders is not a nation.” —Ronald Reagan)
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