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Sen. Mike Enzi introduces bill to wipe out tobacco in America in a generation
Mike Enzi (R-Wyo) Senate.gov Page ^ | July 19, 2007 | Mike Enzi

Posted on 07/23/2007 2:27:03 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084

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To: Brujo

I`ve grown tobacco for 40 years and yet to get
a gov payment. There used to allotments,like rice
and cotton,where you could grow so many acres or lbs.
Now you make a contract with the tobacco co. for
as many lbs as you feel you can grow

Getting ready to cut another field this week-end


41 posted on 07/23/2007 2:43:40 PM PDT by 31M20RedDevil (Fred Thompson for President)
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To: freekitty
I would say a lot of nicotine deprived persons are going to go after these guys.

You can get as much nicotine as you want, as long as you buy it from Pfizer or Merck in one of their NRT products.

42 posted on 07/23/2007 2:44:31 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: AdamSelene235

“Why not place it in the same class of drugs as marijuana.”

That thought sexually stimulates law enforcement budget administrators.


43 posted on 07/23/2007 2:45:24 PM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0 (eHarmony reject)
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To: Reagan Man

>>So much for free markets and America’s free enterprise system.

So much for Sen Enzi`s lifetime ACU rating of 96.

So much for conservatism.<<

Yeah, something is wrong here - have see this story confirmed elsewhere?


44 posted on 07/23/2007 2:45:48 PM PDT by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words)
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To: Mad_as_heck
It will never happen because of all the money the government collects in taxes on tobacco.

What you're missing, if you read closely, is that they don't want you to stop buying cigarettes, they only want you to stop smoking.

In the Utopia these guys envision, you'll keep buying cigarettes, one or two packs a day, but you'll just throw them out and buy another pack or two the next day, so they keep up the tax collections.

45 posted on 07/23/2007 2:46:04 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Mad_as_heck
It will never happen because of all the money the government collects in taxes on tobacco.

That's what I was thinking, the state governments especially are hooked on tobacco taxes. The stuff will just come in illegally, and not be taxed at all.

46 posted on 07/23/2007 2:46:29 PM PDT by hunter112 (Change will happen when very good men are forced to do very bad things.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Couldn’t help but notice hes a republican pushing this. This is the type of reason why I only support certain republican candidates not the party.


47 posted on 07/23/2007 2:46:34 PM PDT by ran20
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To: Eric Blair 2084

COMMIE SOB


48 posted on 07/23/2007 2:50:10 PM PDT by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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To: Red Badger
Same could be said for guns and dope.......

Great. Then if someone wants to outlaw tobacco they should go ahead and propose that, instead of trying to eliminate its supply through a nefarious market manipulation cap-and trade scheme.

49 posted on 07/23/2007 2:50:55 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

We’d probably save more if we banned homosexual behavior....since it causes AIDS, and AIDS gets waaay more health care money than it deserves. A hetero male smoker on average lives longer than a homosexual male...65 vs 45, If I’m not mistaken.


50 posted on 07/23/2007 2:52:00 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Being Challenged Builds Character! Being Coddled Destroys Character!)
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To: Obie Wan

If smoking is satan,why is the government in partnership with tobacco companies instead of outlawing it? Could it be because they don’t want to share the profits with people in the black market?

DING, DING, DING!!!! WE HAVE A WINNER!!!!!!!!


51 posted on 07/23/2007 2:52:37 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: All

Not to worry, ultra-liberals (and beyond). Marijuana, crack, and “illegal” drugs are not included. They are PC.


52 posted on 07/23/2007 2:53:21 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Iconoclast2

Not since Broke Back Mountain. Now, even the sheep are afraid.


53 posted on 07/23/2007 2:53:30 PM PDT by Steamburg (If we don't want our nation bad enough to protect it, it won't be ours long.)
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To: 31M20RedDevil
Might want to drop a line to the Sen from Wyoming asking what he's doing meddling in a LEGAL business which has been the mainstay of TN, VA, and other states...
54 posted on 07/23/2007 2:56:01 PM PDT by GoldCountryRedneck ("Flying is like Life: Know where you are, where you're going, and how to get there." - 'Ol Dad)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Proof that NicoNazis come in both Ds and Rs.


55 posted on 07/23/2007 2:56:48 PM PDT by rottndog (Government is a necessary evil, but as with all evils, the less of it the better.)
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To: Reagan Man
So much for Sen Enzi`s lifetime ACU rating of 96. So much for conservatism.

I think there is more to this. Another "Republican", Mike Grosz, in the ND State legislature introduced a bill to ban tobacco completely. It was later learned that his motives were ingenious...expose the health groups in all their naked glory for the world to see.

Why not just ban tobacco completely? : This is a question that has been asked by FReepers with common sense. If it is so horrible and kills the consumer and everyone around them, how could the Gubmint continue to allow it? Everyone here knows the answer. In 2003, Rep. Michael Grosz, R-Grand Forks, a North Dakota Assemblyman introduced a bill to ban the sale of tobacco products in the state. Who showed up to speak against the proposal? Philip Morris? No. RJR? No. Convenience store owners? No. SheLion? No. Gabz? No. Me? No....The American Cancer Society, American Lung Association, and the North Dakato Medical Association!! Why? You guessed it...no tobacco = no money for them.

56 posted on 07/23/2007 2:59:21 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
introduced legislation to wipe out tobacco use in America

hamburgers next

57 posted on 07/23/2007 3:02:07 PM PDT by mjp (Live & let live. I don't want to live in Mexico, Marxico, or Muslimico. Statism & high taxes suck.)
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To: sionnsar
Since at least 20 signatories of the Constitution grew tobacco, I somehow suspect they would be highly displeased, even aside from philosophical/constitutional considerations.

As another poster noted: a black market will thrive.

These morons never learn that prohibition of popular substances, under whatever rubric, increases crime and doesn't begin to stop the behaviour ''prohibited''.

58 posted on 07/23/2007 3:03:29 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: gondramB

That’s what my husband is hoping for...it’ll be like Oklahoma when it was dry.

“They” came to your door and it cost no more.


59 posted on 07/23/2007 3:06:59 PM PDT by altura
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To: 31M20RedDevil
Thanks for the inside info. For some reason I thought tobacco was subsidized because I kind of remembered some controversy years ago about the Feds subsidizing it on one hand yet attacking the cigarette companies on the other.

Maybe in future I should do more detailed research before posting. (Naw, why spoil a post with something so mundane as facts? ;-)

60 posted on 07/23/2007 3:07:46 PM PDT by Brujo (Quod volunt, credunt.)
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