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NAFTA Superhighway Has Giuliani As Key Player (RON PAUL opposed!)
HULIQ.com ^ | 6-26-2007 | Diane M. Grassi

Posted on 07/24/2007 3:59:53 AM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian

NAFTA Superhighway Has Giuliani As Key Player
Submitted by admin on Tue, 2007-06-26 20:28.

A NAFTA superhighway extends North through Texas into Oklahoma and Colorado, and it's a four lane huge superhighway.

On March 23, 2005, U.S. President George W. Bush, former Canadian Prime Minister, Paul Martin and former Mexican President, Vicente Fox, authorized the Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP), now under the auspices of the U.S. Department of Commerce. Most Americans have little to no knowledge of this seemingly innocuous sounding unofficial treaty and therefore believe there is little reason to be alarmed.

However, what could be misinterpreted as legislation which has been scrutinized, and has gone through the proper channels of government could not be farther from the truth, in that the U.S. Congress has had no direct disclosure of nor has taken part in its execution.

Legally, a treaty would require a two-thirds majority of the U.S. Senate to concur for its ratification as determined by the U.S. Constitution. Cleverly, however, since the SPP is not a treaty, the President was able to avoid such a required procedure by using the power of the Executive Branch. And in August 2006, President Bush additionally crafted a Signing Statement to passed legislation declaring it Constitutional for his administration to withhold information from or deny authority required from the U.S. Congress on the SPP and its negotiations.

With the recent swell and frequency of free trade agreements being passed in the U.S. Congress in the past few years alone, seemingly rushed through without genuine debate or challenge, it would be easy for the public to assume that the SPP was authorized by Congress and thinking matters pertaining to it were in the best interest of the American people. And sadly, many U.S. free trade agreements do not directly better the workers of the countries involved, but are solely reserved for big business profiting from cheap labor, and foreign lobbyists and bureaucrats enriching themselves.

But the SPP is cleverly disguised as a boon for all three North American countries and its citizens, yet has lacked input or oversight from federal, state, or municipal legislators nationwide. The goals of the SPP agenda largely include a call for transparency and unprecedented cooperation with respect to all three governments’ commerce and trade. The endeavor is to join forces in uniting as one competitive body in the global marketplace and to function as the North American Union (NAU), which at the same time whittles away at each country’s sovereignty, its national security and its laws.

The facilitation of the SPP will stem from the use of the U.S. interstate highway system providing the roads for inter-continental and interstate commerce. For that to happen will require retro-fitting of existing interstates as well as building new roads, including gas and power lines, including light rail, from the interior of Mexico, through the central corridor of the U.S. and on into Canada.

Both the proposed NAU and NAFTA Superhighway are offshoots of the North American Free Trade Agreement, signed in 1993 by then President Bill Clinton. At the time it was sold to the American people and the Mexican government as a win-win for both peoples and would re-balance the flow of trade back to Mexico in order for Mexican workers to earn a living wage. But that never transpired and instead backfired, resulting in the onslaught of nearly 20 million illegal aliens since, illegally crossing the U.S. southern border, supposedly looking for decent paying jobs.

But to fully understand the evolution of the call for the need of a NAFTA Superhighway it is important to at least understand the recent history behind it. The introduction of free trade policy has morphed into a priority of the U.S. government today, even putting national security at risk in order to fulfill its agenda. It was the Reagan Administration’s vision of free trade, a direct response to Japan’s explosive growth and expansion in both the automobile and electronics industries in the U.S., which began to shift the balance of trade and the lopsided result we now have today with most of our trading partners.

And fifteen years since the passage of NAFTA has not only enabled the U.S. to globalize arguably beyond proportions in all areas of commerce, industry and trade, but it has helped to foster public-private partnerships, a benign term used to mask what are essentially foreign-direct investments. And foreign-direct investment has grown precipitously since 1988 when former President George H.W. Bush signed the Exon-Florio Amendment to the Defense Production Act of 1950.

It was also in 1988 when the President, through Exon-Florio, delegated his power to approve or disapprove such foreign acquisitions to the Chairman of the Committee on Foreign Investments in the U.S. (CFIUS), relieving the President of the responsibility in determining national security threats in foreign-direct acquisitions. Unfortunately, the definition of national security in a post-911 world remains too narrow to address protection of critical infrastructure, a scarce defense supply, or preservation of technological standards, among many other risks, unquestioned back in 1988.

The Exon-Florio Amendment authorizes the President to "suspend or prohibit foreign acquisitions, mergers, or takeovers of U.S. companies if a foreign controlling interest might take action that threatens national security." And the term "foreign control" remains ambiguous and decidedly so. The ramifications of the Exon-Florio Amendment reared its head when in February 2006 CFIUS, an arm of the U.S. Department of the Treasury, became widely recognized for its authorization of the Dubai Ports World to operate multiple East Coast port operations including the Port Authority of New York, and the ports of Baltimore and Miami.

The balancing act of national security and foreign-direct acquisitions has relegated national security concerns to that of an afterthought, as the Department of the Treasury’s prime priority is expanding commerce in the global marketplace. Complaints about the secluded CFIUS process, however, predate the Dubai Ports World alarm bells of 2006. For it was in October 2005 when Senator Richard Shelby, (R) Alabama, called for hearings on the inclusion of Congressional oversight of CFIUS approvals. And it was prior to 2006 when Senator James Inhofe, (R) Oklahoma, lobbied for Congress to be able to reject CFIUS approvals.

As it stands, most every foreign acquisition sails through the approval process. Unless there is a 45-day investigation process after the required 30-day review by CFIUS, the President’s approval is not required and thereby never reaches the Congress for any interaction or input. Between 1988 and 2005 only two foreign acquisitions were unapproved out of 1,555 reviews. Both were withdrawn and eligible for later re-instatement.

Many foreign entities seek out a "pre-screening" with CFIUS’ member agencies, comprised of 12 departments of the U.S. government, if national security concerns are anticipated in order to mitigate the chances of non-approval and triggering the 45-day investigation.

The disparate interests of free trade and the protection of critical infrastructure, and in particular the U.S. highway system as well as public utilities, has given way to high-powered U.S. law firms and professional lobbyist organizations that lay the groundwork for foreign conglomerates to land foreign-acquisition contracts with cash-starved states amenable to foreign-direct investment.

Such is the case with the Trans-Texas Corridor (TTC), the brainchild of the Texas Department of Transportation (TxDOT) in concert with the SPP. It is a multi-billion dollar web of highway building, toll road maintenance, gas pipelines, public utilities and railroad contracts as complex and as multi-layered as the U.S. interstate highway system itself. A flurry of over 20 foreign acquisitions of interstate highway projects and toll road maintenance contracts have been approved since 2003 with many more nationwide working their way through state legislatures, such as that of the New Jersey Turnpike which Governor Jon Corzine believes is ripe for foreign funding.

But the TTC is the biggest and most massive highway building project of them all and for the first time will rely upon a foreign entity to not only maintain toll roads but to have a stake in building, controlling operations and tolls and expanding new roads and critical infrastructure. Additionally, eminent domain law will come into play in order to reconcile the taking of property and farmland for road expansion to accommodate pipelines and railroad tracks.

And much like the SPP planning, which took place behind closed doors, the TTC collaboration began in 2002 in Texas Governor Richard Perry’s chambers, where state legislators and taxpayers were deliberately cut out of negotiations and the bidding process. Negotiations began with the Spanish engineering transportation construction firm, Cintra Concesiones de Infrastructures de Transporte, S.A., a subsidiary of the Grupo Ferrovial, which specializes in toll roads and car parks and considered a leading developer of private-sector infrastructure throughout Europe.

At the center of negotiations for multiple legs of the Superhighway Corridor throughout Texas, is none other than Rudolph Giuliani’s law firm which landed the Comprehensive Development Agreement for a widening of Interstate-35, now referred to as the TTC-35, in addition to the Master Development Plans for State Highways 121 and 130 among other legs of the TTC. All negotiations for Cintra were and are presently handled by the law firm, Bracewell & Giuliani, LLP, of which Republican Presidential candidate, Rudolph Giuliani, has been a senior executive partner since March 2005. His law firm is the exclusive legal counsel for Cintra. Bracewell & Giuliani is comprised of 400 attorneys, based in Houston, TX with offices in New York City, Washington, D.C., London and Kazakhstan.

Cintra joined with San Antonio, TX-based Zachry Construction Corp. to help land the contracts, in which Zachry owns a 20% interest. The Cintra-Zachry proposal for TTC-35 includes a private investment of up to $6 billion in upfront payments for the complete construction, design and operation of a 316-mile toll road between Dallas and San Antonio, giving Cintra the right to set tolls and keep toll road profits for a period of 50 years, as it will for each road it has contracted.

The NAFTA Superhighway and its corridors will run from Southwestern Mexico through Laredo, Austin and Dallas, TX, into Kansas City, KA, serving as an inland customs port. The corridor will split in Kansas with one leg going to Winnipeg, Canada through Omaha, NE. The other leg goes to Toronto, Canada through Des Moines, IA, Chicago, IL and Detroit, MI.

As many as 10 lanes, one-mile wide will incorporate double rails and pipelines. The second corridor is planned from Brownsville to Houston, TX through Arkansas, Memphis, TN and into Norfolk, VA. While the principal use for these corridors is to speed Asian goods into the Central and Eastern U.S., it will require 145 acres of land per mile or 540,000 total acres of land. And in Texas, the state may utilize its own discretion in using eminent domain law in order to reach its goal.

Had gasoline tax revenues been properly allocated and solely reserved for highway projects over the years, neither Texas nor numerous other states would be as desperate for funds as they claim they now are, as many highway funds have been found to have been raided for other state projects and public funding.

The citizens of Texas only as recently as February 2007 began to attend state legislative hearings where many state lawmakers themselves were beginning to become familiar with the Cintra contracts. Several have called for a moratorium on at least the TTC-35 project, envisioned as a high-speed highway, until they can evaluate issues such as eminent domain, cost benefit analysis, environmental impact and homeland security ramifications.

Most interesting to the whole story is not only has Mr. Giuliani’s involvement in the NAFTA Superhighway not ever having been publicly addressed, but how a foreign company is awarded the building of a mass highway system, versus maintaining it, for the first time in U.S. history, and negotiated by the law firm of the top Republican candidate running for President of the United States. And truly disturbing is how such will not only have national and homeland security and sovereignty implications but how it is deliberately being kept away from the Halls of Congress.

Giuliani fancies himself as an expert on homeland security issues and a law enforcer. And he has amassed quite the portfolio since 2002, earning $20 million in that year alone, by selling himself as such. He owns Giuliani Partners, Giuliani Safety & Security and Giuliani Capital Advisors. In March 2007 he sold Giuliani Capital Advisors, a former Ernst & Young finance company he purchased in 2002, to Macquerie Infrastructure Consortium. Not coincidentally, it is a partner of Cintra’s in its shared operations of toll roads in both Indiana and Chicago, IL.

Bracewell & Giuliani represents some of the biggest multi-national oil, utility infrastructure and financial corporations both in the U.S. and abroad. With that have come the connections that Giuliani has been able to tap into for campaign donors, essential for his presidential bid, not only in Texas but nationwide, as he has become the consummate globalist. But more troubling than potential conflicts of interest as a public servant is his lack of compunction to secure U.S. borders and then planting himself squarely in the middle of one of the most controversial and historic highway system projects since the 1956 National Federal-Aid Highway Act.

Particularly unnerving, given Guiliani’s personal experience on 9-11, is his defense of open borders at any cost while condoning the NAFTA Superhighway Corridor and by extension the North American Union, without the purview or consent of the U.S. Congress or the will of the American people.

We should have seen it coming when Giuliani enacted Special Order 40 in 1994, during his tenure as Mayor of New York City, in ordering law enforcement officers to no longer check the legal status of suspects caught violating the law. We should have seen it coming when Rudolph Giuliani single-handedly decided that illegal aliens were not lawbreakers and also quit upholding the law. And unfortunately we now do see it coming. But sadly, he may now actually be handed the opportunity to no longer defend and abide by the U.S. Constitution of the United States of America.

Copyright ©2007 Diane M. Grassi


The NAFTA Superhighway
Congressman Dr. Ron Paul
October 30, 2006

http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2006/tst103006.htm

...The real issue is national sovereignty. Once again, decisions that affect millions of Americans are not being made by those Americans themselves, or even by their elected representatives in Congress. Instead, a handful of elites use their government connections to bypass national legislatures and ignore our Constitution -- which expressly grants Congress the sole authority to regulate international trade.

The ultimate goal is not simply a superhighway, but an integrated North American Union --complete with a currency, a cross-national bureaucracy, and virtually borderless travel within the Union. Like the European Union, a North American Union would represent another step toward the abolition of national sovereignty altogether.

A new resolution, introduced by Representative Virgil Goode of Virginia, expresses the sense of Congress that the United States should not engage in the construction of a NAFTA superhighway, or enter into any agreement that advances the concept of a North American Union. I wholeheartedly support this legislation, and predict that the superhighway will become a sleeper issue in the 2008 election.

Any movement toward a North American Union diminishes the ability of average Americans to influence the laws under which they must live. The SPP agreement, including the plan for a major transnational superhighway through Texas, is moving forward without congressional oversight -- and that is an outrage. The administration needs a strong message from Congress that the American people will not tolerate backroom deals that threaten our sovereignty.


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NOTE: Everything that George Bush does, including his support for the "Illegal Immigration SuperHighway", is true and righteous altogether. For daring to question the all-holy George Bush and suggesting that a given Foreign Policy will actually make us less safe, Ron Paul is just a blame-America-defeatist-traitor-coward moonbat. Great, now that we've got that out of the way, maybe we can discuss the article.

1 posted on 07/24/2007 3:59:56 AM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian
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In 2008, I'm voting for the REAGAN REPUBLICAN.
I'm voting for former Vietnam Combat Flight
Surgeon, and Leader of Ronald Reagan's
Electoral Delegation from Texas: In 2008,
I'm Voting for RON PAUL!
"The greatest champion of conservative principles we have seen in Congress in the past quarter century."
(David T. Pyne, Esq., Vice President of the National Federation of Republican Assemblies)

RON PAUL is the RIGHT Candidate for National Defense and Foreign Affairs.

GIVE 'EM HELL, RON!!


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2 posted on 07/24/2007 4:03:33 AM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian (Please Ping or FReepMail me to be added to the Great Ron Paul Ping List)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

Nice find!

related:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1870635/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1870637/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1870639/posts


3 posted on 07/24/2007 4:04:44 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (The FairTax and the North American Union are mutually exclusive.)
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To: George W. Bush
I believe you wanted to see me dig up more dirt on Giuliani's selling-out of America for thirty pieces of silver (okay, more like $20 Million) on his consulting for the "Illegal Immigration Superhighway".

Ask, brother, and ye shall receive.

4 posted on 07/24/2007 4:06:35 AM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian (Please Ping or FReepMail me to be added to the Great Ron Paul Ping List)
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To: ovrtaxt
Giuliani is a anti-American whore. He's running for President Of 9/11 , hoping to coast to victory on the fact that he happened to be Mayor of a City which was attacked on September 11th, 2001 (having made the brilliant executive decision to station the City's first-response Headquarters in the biggest Terrorist Target in the country), while at the same time selling out the United States border for $20 Million bucks in cold, hard blood-money.

Truly disgusting.

5 posted on 07/24/2007 4:16:34 AM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian (Please Ping or FReepMail me to be added to the Great Ron Paul Ping List)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

Rudy is just more of the same old sheeat, anything is for sale, to the highest bidder.
Either we demand principles, or we accept tyranny, there are no other options.


6 posted on 07/24/2007 4:19:53 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
while at the same time selling out the United States border for $20 Million bucks in cold, hard blood-money.

The only ones who aren't in bed with this NAU scheme are Paul, Hunter and Tancredo. I predict that Giuliani will be the next to go down after McCain.

7 posted on 07/24/2007 4:25:04 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (The FairTax and the North American Union are mutually exclusive.)
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To: ovrtaxt

From your lips to God’s ears.


8 posted on 07/24/2007 4:26:35 AM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian (Please Ping or FReepMail me to be added to the Great Ron Paul Ping List)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

rudy, romney, newt, thompson, mccain, all of them are for selling out the country for the love of the federal reserve and the multinational companies.

all the moonbats(as they are called) that support Ron Paul are starting to make some real sense.

regardless of your political affiliation, its time to come as one as the majority did during the amnesty bill to rid ourselves of these established elitist.


9 posted on 07/24/2007 4:28:09 AM PDT by rineaux (I Refuse to comment on this post until I know what Jesse Jackson Thinks.)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian; Spiff; Liz


LOL.

Dunno if this rates a ping for the JulieWatch folks but pinging a few of them here.
10 posted on 07/24/2007 4:30:09 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

And hopefully, to the ears of many Americans. The media blackout on the SPP has got to end. Critical mass of info and a tipping point must occur, much as it did on illegal aliens.

Once Romney and Thompson are forced to clear the air about their intentions, we’ll see how the rest of the season plays out.

The wild card is another attack.


11 posted on 07/24/2007 4:30:17 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (The FairTax and the North American Union are mutually exclusive.)
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To: rineaux

In the meantime, stockpile ammo!


12 posted on 07/24/2007 4:34:11 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: ovrtaxt
The media blackout on the SPP has got to end. Critical mass of info and a tipping point must occur, much as it did on illegal aliens.

I really hope so. This "Illegal Immigration SuperHighway" is HUGE news, and most people don't even know it:

"Proponents envision a ten-lane colossus the width of several football fields, with freight and rail lines, fiber-optic cable lines, and oil and natural gas pipelines running alongside. This will require coordinated federal and state eminent domain actions on an unprecedented scale, as literally millions of people and businesses could be displaced. The loss of whole communities is almost certain, as planners cannot wind the highway around every quaint town, historic building, or senior citizen apartment for thousands of miles...." (Ron Paul, "The NAFTA Superhighway", further excerpt, ibid.)

13 posted on 07/24/2007 4:35:45 AM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian (Please Ping or FReepMail me to be added to the Great Ron Paul Ping List)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

lol. no kidding. they are systematically shuting down gun shops.


14 posted on 07/24/2007 4:38:17 AM PDT by rineaux (I Refuse to comment on this post until I know what Jesse Jackson Thinks.)
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To: rineaux; SWAMPSNIPER
I was really disappointed when my local WalMart stopped carrying guns. Aside from the local pawn shop, there's now very few places to buy guns and ammo in this county. And I live in Oklahoma! It's a rather disturbing trend.
15 posted on 07/24/2007 4:40:40 AM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian (Please Ping or FReepMail me to be added to the Great Ron Paul Ping List)
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To: ovrtaxt

“The only ones who aren’t in bed with this NAU scheme are Paul, Hunter and Tancredo.”

The roots of the NAU can be traced back to the CFR. They are responcible for most of the world’s economic and political policies. It doen’t matter which party is elected, they will be well represented in either case unless *We the People* throw a wrench into the works.


16 posted on 07/24/2007 4:45:34 AM PDT by wolfcreek (2 bad Tyranny, Treachery and Treason never take a vacation...)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

Dictatorship comes to mind as I read the article. “My way, or the Highway”...er...something like that.

Regardless this is extremely serious, and although I’ve been attempting to alert, make aware, ignite the flames, shine a beacon on this matter, my efforts seem to have failed along the way as most folks think I’m nuts when I tell them about this topic.

I understand them as it’s hard to really believe it’s true, BUT IT IS.


17 posted on 07/24/2007 4:45:50 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

They still have a big gun show about every three weeks down here in Austin. (Saxon Gun Shows) Come On Down!


18 posted on 07/24/2007 4:49:20 AM PDT by wolfcreek (2 bad Tyranny, Treachery and Treason never take a vacation...)
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To: rockinqsranch
Regardless this is extremely serious, and although IÂ’ve been attempting to alert, make aware, ignite the flames, shine a beacon on this matter, my efforts seem to have failed along the way as most folks think IÂ’m nuts when I tell them about this topic. I understand them as itÂ’s hard to really believe itÂ’s true, BUT IT IS.

Feel free to catalog this Article on your home page. You may want to reference it in the future!

Also check out Congressman Paul's comments at:
http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2006/tst103006.htm -- "This will require coordinated federal and state eminent domain actions on an unprecedented scale, as literally millions of people and businesses could be displaced. The loss of whole communities is almost certain..." etc.

Keep fighting the good fight!


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19 posted on 07/24/2007 4:50:39 AM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian (Please Ping or FReepMail me to be added to the Great Ron Paul Ping List)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
All I have ever seen or heard about this NAFTA Super Highway is verbal or written descriptions of it. Where’s the map?
20 posted on 07/24/2007 5:11:04 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Dixie Yooper
All I have ever seen or heard about this NAFTA Super Highway is verbal or written descriptions of it. Where’s the map?

"Proponents envision a ten-lane colossus the width of several football fields, with freight and rail lines, fiber-optic cable lines, and oil and natural gas pipelines running alongside. This will require coordinated federal and state eminent domain actions on an unprecedented scale, as literally millions of people and businesses could be displaced. The loss of whole communities is almost certain, as planners cannot wind the highway around every quaint town, historic building, or senior citizen apartment for thousands of miles.... The administration needs a strong message from Congress that the American people will not tolerate backroom deals that threaten our sovereignty. " (Congressman Dr. Ron Paul, "The NAFTA Superhighway")

21 posted on 07/24/2007 5:17:05 AM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian (Please Ping or FReepMail me to be added to the Great Ron Paul Ping List)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

Thanks


22 posted on 07/24/2007 5:44:00 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

Bush forgets there is such a thing as a House of Representatives.

If the House of Representatives refuses to fund this monster project with our tax money, there will be NO superhighway.

What Bush wants and what he gets are two entirely different things…just like his amnesty thing.


23 posted on 07/24/2007 5:51:08 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: George W. Bush
"..JulieWatch folks but pinging a few of them here."

It would be downright rude not to.

24 posted on 07/24/2007 6:16:40 AM PDT by Designer
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

Just want you to be aware the RQSR does not support or endorse ANY Candidate at this time. We are non committed, but I can state that from the beginning of Giuliani’s thoughts of running for POTUS we at the RQSR have posted “NO RUDY”, and we also believe at this point in time that Ron Paul would be a great guy to support if there weren’t Global issues of such consequence as there are today.

There is the pesky war on terrorism, as well the ongoing assault by Leftist interests on the American way of life that is also a Global conflict. Ron Paul seems to us of accurate, but unfortunately limited focus excluding World events that are of major concern. If you wish to come back on that one, kindly have some information ie; links etc. to prove he is a Globally oriented trouble shooter as well as Domestic.

Duncan Hunter, and Fred Thompson are both most interesting to the RQSR, however Duncan Hunter needs to kick his Campaign in the butt and raise the level of consciousness of the voting public as to himself, and Fred must get on the campaign trail NOW as he has worn out the preface phase.


25 posted on 07/24/2007 6:18:36 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: rockinqsranch
I am a supporter of Ron Paul, Tom Tancredo, and Duncan Hunter, in that order.

I think that Ron Paul is unquestionably the best on all domestic issues (Anti-Abortion, Anti-Gun Control, Anti-Taxes, Anti-Spending), but I think that any one of these three (Paul, Tancredo, or Hunter) would do a good job protecting the Border and preventing Jihadists from coming INTO our Nation, which I believe is the Number #1 "National Security" issue. I also believe they are all smart, honorable, trustworthy Candidates; Ron Paul is simply my #1 guy.

I will not vote for Giuliani in any case. If he receives the GOP Nomination, I will vote Third Party in the Generals. I genuinely think he is that bad.

As always, JMHO.

26 posted on 07/24/2007 6:31:25 AM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian (Please Ping or FReepMail me to be added to the Great Ron Paul Ping List)
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To: rineaux; OrthodoxPresbyterian; SWAMPSNIPER; rockinqsranch; wolfcreek
Everything RINO Giuliani says is an anagram for "I can't wait to get my hands on US government power." Advancing his and his handler's crass global ambitions is the name of the game. The rest of us are all pawns and peons in Rooty's global game. Read on.

The Washington Post recently reported that Giuliani Capital Advisors "was sold for an undisclosed amount as Giuliani was preparing his run for president." The Post article also discloses that Giuliani’s secretive lobbying firm, Giuliani Partners, has made more than $100 million over the last five years and that its clients "are required to sign confidentiality agreements, so they do not comment about the work they receive or how much they are paying for it.

Though now running for president, Giuliani refuses to identify his clients, disclose his compensation or reveal any details about Giuliani Partners. He also declined to be interviewed about the firm." The paper provided some details, based "on a review of corporate, government and court records, along with scores of interviews with clients and government officials who have interacted with Giuliani Partners."
READ HERE http://breakingnews.nypost.com/dynamic/stories/G/GIULIANIS_BUSINESS?SITE=NYNYP&SECTION=HOME
FR POSTED http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1833794/posts?page=46

COMMENTS More accurately, Giuliani is selling one of the several businesses he is involved in, revolving around investment banking, global security, and international legal representation. Giuliani companies (that we know of) include:

(1) Giuliani Capital Advisors, LLC (AKA Giuliani Partners LLC),
(2) Giuliani Group,
(3) Giuliani-Kerik (re-named Giuliani Security and Safety, after the departure of the tainted ex-Police Commissioner),
(4) Giuliani-Van Essen,
(5) Bracewell & Giuliani LLP law firm (based in Texas with global interests),
(6) Giuliani Security & Safety Asia

Attorneys Bracewell & Giuliani's January Closings in Kazakhstan Total US $1.625 Billion
lawfuel.com | February 22, 2007
FR Posted on 02/26/2007 by Jim Robinson
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1791780/posts

ALMATY, Kazakhstan -- LAWFUEL - Law News, US Law Firms -- Bracewell & Giuliani LLP closed three cases in January for a total of US $1.625 billion, acting as international counsel for the offering of corporate debt and solidifying their place as the premier legal authority on Kazakhstani business affairs in the Caspian region. “We continue to thrive and grow in Kazakhstan, mirroring the country itself,” said Greg Vojack, managing partner for the firm's offices in Kazakhstan. “As Kazakhstan transitions into a prosperous free marketplace after the fall of Soviet Russia, its fine-tuned monetary policies are helping the country’s financial sectors grow faster than New York.” ~snip~

Established in 1994, Bracewell's presence in the Republic of Kazakhstan has helped clients capture significant opportunities in the Caspian Region. The firm's energy and finance attorneys provided groundbreaking guidance to create the legal and financial infrastructure in that emerging nation and today actively advise energy and financial companies in the region and the government of Kazakhstan. ~snip~

MORE BACKGROUND Giuliani firm has Venezuela ties
MiamiHerald.com | Thu, Mar. 15, 2007 | BETH REINHARD
Posted on 03/15/2007 3:26:41 AM PDT by Condor 63
The law firm headlined by presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani does business with a company tied to Venezuelan leader Hugo Chávez, who has called President Bush ``the devil.'' Bracewell & Giuliani lobbies on behalf of Texas-based Citgo Petroleum, a wholly owned subsidiary of the Venezuelan oil company controlled by Chávez. The Bush administration said last year that Venezuela was ''not cooperating fully'' with antiterrorism efforts, stopping one step short of grouping the country with state sponsors of terrorism like Iran, Syria and Cuba. Giuliani, the former New York City mayor best known for his leadership after the Sept. 11 terrorism attacks, does not personally lobby for Citgo, though he is a senior partner at the firm and shares in its profits. (Excerpt) Read more at miamiherald.com ...

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Global Rooty can't seem to get the message----a candidate who does not perceive issues through the prism of the red, white, and blue, gets his walking papers. So, let me be the first to tell Rooty----"thanks, but no thanks."

27 posted on 07/24/2007 6:39:06 AM PDT by Liz (It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong. Voltaire)
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To: Liz

Nice addition, really draws the picture of Giuliani’s shadowy holdings and business interests.


28 posted on 07/24/2007 7:03:56 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa)
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To: rockinqsranch; OrthodoxPresbyterian; SWAMPSNIPER; ovrtaxt; Spiff; Liz; George W. Bush

>Regardless this is extremely serious, and although I’ve been attempting to alert, make aware, ignite the flames, shine a beacon on this matter, (the NAU) my efforts seem to have failed along the way as most folks think I’m nuts when I tell them about this topic.<

That’s the same reaction I get unless the listener is upper mangement of a large corporation, 2000 employees or more. They already have their multistep business plans in place for the eventual rollover to socialist globalism.

The other exception is bankers. The big commercial bankers are really on top of it. Even the small local banks are getting ready for this. They aren’t detail knowledge staffed but they are aware it’s coming.

It seems the more money someone is in charge of, the more they know about the NAU.


29 posted on 07/24/2007 7:05:16 AM PDT by B4Ranch ( "Freedom is not free, but the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share.")
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

>>Ron Paul advocates United States withdrawal from the United Nations<<

That bit right there should make Ron Paul the obvious choice for President to every American.


30 posted on 07/24/2007 7:08:01 AM PDT by B4Ranch ( "Freedom is not free, but the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share.")
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To: B4Ranch
That bit right there should make Ron Paul the obvious choice for President to every American.

Failing to get withdrawal, President Paul should sequester all their funds (we give them most of their money) as Reagan used to. And he should appoint an ambassador that attends no sessions except to veto every action of the Security Council.
31 posted on 07/24/2007 7:28:04 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Never accept tyranny

Bloody revolts are an option. But never Tyranny.


32 posted on 07/24/2007 7:33:47 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (Famously frisky)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

Ron Paul is correct on some issues, like this one, and totally clueless on others - like the war against Islamofascism which the current Administration, having started out well enough, is proceeding to bungle as it bungled Harriet Miers, Dubai Ports, Fallujah and the border issue.

The U.S. cannot withdraw from Iraq. To do so would hand over to Al Quaida and/or the Iranians, oil wealth and prestige. It would detroy what little credibility this administration and the two before it had managed to NOT bungle.

The west is involved in a cultural/religious/military war with Islam. Iraq ia a battlefield in that war. Not only must we NOT pull out, we must triumph there and move on to destroy the Iranians, Syrians and those fanatics who comprise the majority of Pakistanis.

If we don;t, they’ll kill us or convert us from within or without and 2,000 years of western progress will be reduced to the level of the camel drivers in Afghanistan.


33 posted on 07/24/2007 9:13:28 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: Liz

lots of great info liz. will look over it more in detail. thanks so much.


34 posted on 07/24/2007 9:19:27 AM PDT by rineaux (I Refuse to comment on this post until I know what Jesse Jackson Thinks.)
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To: Liz; George W. Bush

Thank you for the great post #27. Ping to GWB who’s tallying up some of this Giuliani dirt.


35 posted on 07/24/2007 10:29:54 AM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian (Please Ping or FReepMail me to be added to the Great Ron Paul Ping List)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
I see none of the top four running for POTUS wanting to address the sovereignty of the United States. I don’t trust Fred on anything and that’s for certain. John McCain is a globalist who is a Bush twin on policy. Mitt? Forget it. The selling out of our sovereignty on trade issues and on border issues began to really decline when the blasted GOP Congress began letting the Smirking Chimp run our government by Executive Decree’s rather than doing their jobs.

Bush needs to be watched close on all issues till he thankfully leaves office. The closer he gets to the end of his term the more reckless and the more sell out deals he will make. Any and all abuses and potential abuses need to be heard and dealt with in Congress & Republican Party grow a blasted spine howabout it. Of all the GOP members in congress Ron Paul again speaks up when it needs to be heard. It isn’t Ron Pauls turn for POTUS because of party politics it’s his time for POTUS because he has earned the job.

36 posted on 07/24/2007 5:36:22 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Proud Partisan Constitution Supporting Conservative to which I make no apologies for nor back down)
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