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DA, spanking case stir outrage
The Oregonian ^ | 7/24/2007 | SUSAN GOLDSMITH

Posted on 07/24/2007 8:23:27 AM PDT by Minn

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To: Minn

I hereby sentence these boys to being publicly spanked on stage in the school auditorium until maximum humiliation occurs, then sent to stand in the school stocks with piles of rotten cafeteria food readily available.


21 posted on 07/24/2007 9:05:13 AM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: jeddavis
and there were always pools of leftover tar lying around to roll the neighbor kids in. About the only cure for that was bathing the kid in gasoline.

They were repaving a road near our house one summer. I was particularly angry at my sister over something and decided to ride her bike through the tar to get the tires all mucked up. Of course, the instant I rode the bike into the tar it slid and fell over. I was the one all mucked up with tar. My mother scrubbed me with an old rag and gasoline for an hour getting all the tar off. Do you know what scrubbing on skin for an hour with an old rag and gasoline feels like?????! Yikes. Learned my lesson.

22 posted on 07/24/2007 9:05:53 AM PDT by Free State Four
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To: Xenalyte

The liberals neuter the boys and the girls alike - they think “we should all just have a group hug”. Retaliation using physical force - oh, the horrors !


23 posted on 07/24/2007 9:06:22 AM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: mvpel
“Hopefully his life has been changed enough that he won’t grow up to be a tit-grabbing frat-boy date-rapist.”

So what do you have against the Kennedy clan, anyway?

24 posted on 07/24/2007 9:13:22 AM PDT by DJ Frisat (SPAM: best in the can and in sammiches -- not for use on computers.)
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To: Leatherneck_MT
This is sheer overreactive madness on the part of the PC leftist crowd that refuses to allow boys to be boys.

I hope that my son doesn't learn that smacking a girl's butt and grabbing her boobs is what it means to be a boy.

25 posted on 07/24/2007 9:15:41 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Minn
By this DA's "reasoning," what these boys did is equivalent to violent rape.

I guess law schools admit anybody.

26 posted on 07/24/2007 9:19:27 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: NorthFlaRebel

Even Wendy Murphy thinks this is ridiculous!!!! Oh my heavens, did her forehead move this time while she expressed her astonishment? LOL.

Even Murphy is right on this one. This Berry prosecutor sounds like he is related to Mike Nifong. Pinhead.


27 posted on 07/24/2007 9:19:59 AM PDT by miele man (Continually voting against iodine deficient libs for 42 years)
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To: mvpel
I believe you would win this contest hands down.


28 posted on 07/24/2007 9:21:13 AM PDT by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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To: rednesss

Can’t you come up with any better discussion point than just calling me a twit for being offended that assault and battery is tolerated and winked at in government schools?


29 posted on 07/24/2007 9:24:23 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: mvpel

I would hope not too, but the kind of ill wishes you spoke at these boys is no different from the PC madness visited on them by the local authorities. Fathers need to set the example and correct their sons when they are out of place, not the PC feminazi crowd.

What happened here is complete and utter nonsense and is huge indicator that this society is being feminized more and more.


30 posted on 07/24/2007 9:25:12 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (Famously frisky)
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To: mvpel
Hopefully his life has been changed enough that he won't grow up to be a tit-grabbing frat-boy date-rapist.

You sure have some unique physic ability. Do you have an agent?

31 posted on 07/24/2007 9:27:06 AM PDT by beltfed308 (Rudy: When you absolutely,positively need a liberal for President.)
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To: Minn
During questioning by a vice principal and police officer stationed at the school, they also admitted to poking or grabbing girls' breasts in the past.

Wait a minute. The VP and the LEO questioned them without offering legal representation, or calling their parents? That's troubling, to say the least.

32 posted on 07/24/2007 9:29:11 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: mvpel

when did a smack on the ass mean ass-ault and battery in middle school.

Lame.


33 posted on 07/24/2007 9:32:09 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: mvpel

“I hope that my son doesn’t learn that smacking a girl’s butt and grabbing her boobs is what it means to be a boy.”

Some how, with you as a dad, I don’t think that will ever be a problem.

He may have other issues though....


34 posted on 07/24/2007 9:33:37 AM PDT by Al Gator (Refusing to "stoop to your enemy's level", gets you cut off at the knees.)
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To: rednesss
Flagstaff Tea Party

A problem with bullying in FUSD [Flagstaff, AZ Unified School District] schools is not a new phenomenon. In 1998, the parents of a FUSD high school student filed a complaint form with the federal Office for Civil Rights that said their daughter was raped inside her school.

One of the girl’s parents spoke to me recently. The parent says “Jeannie,” an attractive student, and some other female students, had experienced routine sexual harassment at school — “graphic verbal intimidation” involving “humiliating put-down language” with detailed descriptions of female sexual anatomy and exactly what the boys doing the harassment would like to do to the girls sexually. This parent describes the offending boys as “predators.”

Jeannie also says she was often pushed into lockers as she walked down school hallways. In addition, someone unsuccessfully attempted to push her down a flight of stairs.


WHY, WHY do you want to excuse this kind of behaviour?? I will grant that the DA's charge-stacking was arguably over-the-top, but the whining of these parents over the legal bills for their little hooligans is grating.

Leadership Insider

Focusing on the fact that Colorado provides public entities a degree of immunity from some state tort claims, an open letter from Colorado bishops denounced the legal “double standard” for sexual abuse claims arising in public and private schools. The letter asserted, “Nationally, the evidence is now irrefutable that sexual abuse and misconduct against minors in public schools is a serious problem, in fact,more serious than anywhere outside the home, including churches.”

35 posted on 07/24/2007 9:35:33 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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“I hope that my son doesn’t learn that smacking a girl’s butt and grabbing her boobs is what it means to be a boy.”

Well,rather than just “hope” your son doesn’t learn such behavior, why don’t you teach him that there are certain types of behavior that are unacceptable and also teach him what acceptable behavior is. You are his father, aren’t you? You surely have a duty to teach him “what it means to be a boy”. I hope you do know what it means to be a man so you can teach that to him as well.


36 posted on 07/24/2007 9:35:33 AM PDT by miele man (Continually voting against iodine deficient libs for 42 years)
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To: mvpel

Good grief-you can’t be serious. This is extremely stupid on the part of the prosecuter and shows the dangers inherent in our legalistic justice system-common sense has gone out the window.

These kids were playing around. And then you have case like one I personally know about in Pennsylvania where a child molester (cousin of personal friend) was caught in the act with a three year old...was a boy scout leader and molested God knows how many kids. He received three years in jail.


37 posted on 07/24/2007 9:36:15 AM PDT by nyconse
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To: miele man
It is the failure to teach acceptable behavior that leads to incidents like the above, and it is the "boys will be boys" attitude that permits such abject failure to continue year after year after year.
38 posted on 07/24/2007 9:37:30 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: mvpel
Confidential court records and police reports obtained by The Oregonian showed that other Patton students -- boys and girls -- were also slapping bottoms.

Using your physic ability what are the girls going to grow up to be if they aren't subjected to the legal system?

39 posted on 07/24/2007 9:37:51 AM PDT by beltfed308 (Rudy: When you absolutely,positively need a liberal for President.)
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To: mvpel
F-—ing brats need to learn to keep their hands to themselves. Why is something that would result in criminal charges in the workplace just pooh-poohed when it takes place in government schools?

Just to update you, criminal charges were filed against the *boys.

*some* of the "pooh-pooh" to the story are the *girls* who admitted to "butt slapping" the boys faced NO CHARGES.

40 posted on 07/24/2007 9:41:03 AM PDT by txdoda (Voters to Gov't .......Re: post 9-11 Border Security....... ""The results are Unacceptable."")
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