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Four endangered gorillas found shot dead 'Huge loss' for population that numbers just 700
MSNBC ^ | 7/26/2007 | MSNBC

Posted on 07/26/2007 10:56:25 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA

Three female mountain gorillas and a male silverback gorilla were found shot dead this week inside a national park in the Democratic Republic of Congo, a conservation group said Thursday.

The bodies were discovered inside Virunga National Park but it was unclear who killed them and why, the International Gorilla Conservation Program said in a statement.

"Just over 700 mountain gorillas survive in the wild today, and none exist in captivity," the group said. "For such a small population, the unnecessary and indiscriminate killing of four mountain gorillas is a huge loss."

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: africa; animalrights; environment; gorillas; looniesoutinforce; societalvalues; values
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To: Red in Blue PA

I also hope he has no pets. And another poster asked if he would be happy if there were only people and no animals left. News for him: Iron Jack ain’t never gonna be happy. Where is Oscar the Cat when you really need him! But come to think of it, Oscar probably wouldn’t even go near him.


81 posted on 07/26/2007 12:51:58 PM PDT by twonie (Keep your guns - and stockpile ammo.)
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To: IronJack

Ever hear of War Dogs? They have saved the lives of more than 10,000 US servicemen.

And their handlers would probably tell you that the animals have more humanity than most humans.

You opinion is, putting it nicely, very sick.


82 posted on 07/26/2007 12:55:16 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: Inquisitive1

No, your tunnel vision shows. If you cannot spare a little sympathy for anything but an aborted baby, I seriously question your sympathy for that. You are more of a legalist, I believe.


83 posted on 07/26/2007 12:55:59 PM PDT by twonie (Keep your guns - and stockpile ammo.)
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To: twonie

And just exactly whom are “these people” that you are referring to?


84 posted on 07/26/2007 12:56:59 PM PDT by L,TOWM ("Protesting Clinton's wars was'nt cool..." - Jeneane Garafolo, 2003)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

And his family is starving and AIDS-ridden exactly why? Because he and his people before him are not capable of providing any sort of order or cleanliness, so they turn on the nearest thing and kill it for money.


85 posted on 07/26/2007 12:58:45 PM PDT by twonie (Keep your guns - and stockpile ammo.)
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To: L,TOWM

To some people here, the poor, the sick (AIDS etc), and animals do not matter one bit.

A very sad commentary on them.


86 posted on 07/26/2007 12:58:59 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: L,TOWM

The ones running the country in question.


87 posted on 07/26/2007 1:01:46 PM PDT by twonie (Keep your guns - and stockpile ammo.)
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To: The KG9 Kid
Was that an insult that you didn't address the insulted to?

From a Christian standpoint (not necessarily ALL Christians' standpoint), you could be the one who is being perverted and weird, considering some animals to be worth more than others, or even considering some of them to be equal to humans.

And 'this modern age' is suuuuuch a stupid term. Did it occur to you that every present age is a modern age? And judging from the comments of liberals, it seem religious extremism in on the upswing in the United States these days.

88 posted on 07/26/2007 1:02:22 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: L,TOWM; Anonymous Rex

Those gorillas are struggling to feed their kids too, while dodging bullets and snares. Most often they are killed so that their hands can be sold as “souvenirs”. They are often found with their hands cut off. Humans do this, and they’ve been doing it for a long time, to each other and to the gorillas and other primates and other very sentient family-oriented creatures like elephants. Maybe you should look into the eyes of a young, still-nursing gorilla, while it watches a gang of human thugs kill its mother, cut off her hands, and carry them off, leaving her mutilated body behind.


89 posted on 07/26/2007 1:02:55 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: L,TOWM

The human population on that continent is doomed and there’s nothing anyone can do to fix that. No amount of money, no amount of food and no amount of drugs will stop what’s happening.

The best thing we could do would be get the folks who aren’t infected out of there and let they or their descendants return once the epidemic has run it’s course.

You may not like it but that’s the reality of the situation.


90 posted on 07/26/2007 1:02:59 PM PDT by Anonymous Rex ( For Rent)
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To: Red in Blue PA; L,TOWM; swain_forkbeard
Did either of you (ribpa, lt) understand comment 45?


91 posted on 07/26/2007 1:09:47 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: IronJack
"I’d like to say I care, but I don’t. They’re just animals, after all."

Maybe so, but that doesn't mean the resource should be senselessly depleted into extinction.

I like hunting deer and moose, but also am active to protect the health and abundance of the herds so I can continue to hunt and eat them.

92 posted on 07/26/2007 1:20:40 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: The KG9 Kid
"Every time an anti-abortion fanatic makes an irrelevant post on FR, God kills a fetus."

One stupid post begets another...

93 posted on 07/26/2007 1:25:30 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: cowtowney
"I really don’t understand killing whales, gorillas, etc. I’m not against killing animals for food, but there is a line not to be crossed.."

Whales are/were killed for food, oil. Gorilla's as I understand, were killed for novelty, and medicinal superstition, and even food in Africa.

Unfortunelty, whaling conservation was a little too late coming, which is really the only reason the populations fell into dangerously low levels, but still can recover. Try tell natives that they can't hunt wales, both a food and oil staple, and you'll have a pow wow on your doorstep. It's also a delicacy in Japan, a base for the perfume, cosmetics, and lotion industry. Gorillas can also recover, if given a chance. There's no reason why if they are allowed to recover that through conservation controls there can't be a limited harvest to supply a limited amount of product for those willing to pay. They'll get it illegally anyways, no matter how many laws banning it are made.

94 posted on 07/26/2007 1:39:17 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: twonie
Right on. There is no country that these people have control of that is run in any sort of decent or orderly way. And Bermuda doesn’t count.

The ones running the country in question.

A change in twone there tunie.

Why don't you just come out and tell the viewing audience the identity or at least a few obvious personal characteristics about "these people" and quit hiding behind vague euphemisms?

That might make it easier for the rest of us to spot "these people" and make sure they don't take over anything in our country. Call it a public service toknee, you know, like pointing out a stormfront to your neighbors and FRiends...

95 posted on 07/26/2007 1:40:03 PM PDT by L,TOWM ("Protesting Clinton's wars was'nt cool..." - Jeneane Garafolo, 2003)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
"Because chimpanzees are so closely related to us and because they therefore host diseases and parasites which specialize in large primates like chimps and humans, this is a spectacularly bad idea." Not true. they are on the other side of the species barrier, which for that reason alone should tell you they are not related to humans at all. They are animals like all others.

Just because they look human-like doesn't mean they are. Similarities in dna doesn't mean anything either. A snake has a lot of simular DNA as well. there is no reason to doubt that the creator of all used the same principles and tools to create everything. Very few disease can cross the species barrier, and even then they have to mutate. (prionic diseases for example).

96 posted on 07/26/2007 1:50:08 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Red in Blue PA
"My view of religion is close to that of Leo Tolstoy. As such, to be consistent in my beliefs, I am a vegetarian and do not use or wear leather."

And I believe that plants are intelligent living things as well, and don't think people should just kill them indiscriminately and wear their "skins". Unregulated human activity makes these creatures extinct, in fact several go extinct every day...In fact I'm going to start spraying people with gren paint for wearing plant skins...

97 posted on 07/26/2007 1:56:44 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Red in Blue PA
"My view of religion is close to that of Leo Tolstoy. As such, to be consistent in my beliefs, I am a vegetarian and do not use or wear leather."

And I believe that plants are intelligent living things as well, and don't think people should just kill them indiscriminately and wear their "skins". Unregulated human activity makes these creatures extinct, in fact several go extinct every day...In fact I'm going to start spraying people with green paint for wearing plant skins...

98 posted on 07/26/2007 1:56:53 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Red in Blue PA
"Ever heard of Mad Cow disease?"

Ever hear of botulism? Carcinogens?

99 posted on 07/26/2007 1:58:51 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Anonymous Rex
Isn’t the latest figure that 50+% of Africans in certain areas are infected with aids?

Don't believe everything you read.

AIDS is quickly fatal when untreated. Few Africans are treated effectively.

Therefore we should have already seen a massive die-off in Africa if the infection rates reported for the last 10-15 years are accurate. It is likely that 50% of the population would have died in less than a year, with continuing drops after that.

We haven't seen such a die-off.

Occam's Razor says that the reported infection rates are not accurate.

100 posted on 07/26/2007 2:11:18 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (It's not the heat, it's the stupidity.)
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