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Republicans: 60 Democrats voted in Palm Beach County and New York (in 2006)
Sun-Sentinel.com ^ | 7/26/07 | Sally Apgar and Dianna Cahn

Posted on 07/28/2007 1:16:07 PM PDT by LdSentinal

West Palm Beach The Republican Party of Palm Beach County says 60 people appear to have voted illegally in both the Florida and New York elections last Nov. 7.

Republican Party Chairman Sid Dinerstein believes voter fraud is there and that law enforcement should take their list of 60 people "and see who's doing what."

But several people on the list contacted by the South Florida Sun-Sentinel said the Republican Party has it all wrong. "Impossible," said Shirley Goldberg, an 82-year-old Democrat who lives in Delray Beach. "I registered and voted in New York when I lived there. But I've been here for the last 12 years. I haven't voted in New York since."

Goldberg retired from a job in a Brooklyn hospital more than a decade ago. Dinerstein said, "These are allegations, we have no certainty. We compiled this list from the best data available to make the strongest list possible. And now law enforcement should take over."

The Republican Party announced Wednesday that it filed complaints of voter fraud July 20 with the State Attorney, Florida Division of Elections, Florida Department of Law Enforcement, the State Attorney General and the U.S. Attorney's office.

The party has asked the Division of Elections to open an investigation to determine whether these 60 voters violated Florida voting laws and should be prosecuted for voting in two states in the same election. Dinerstein said that anyone registering to vote in Florida must sign a form that they reside in the state and note any other state in which they are registered.

A spokesperson for the Division of Elections said the agency "had only just become aware of the issue and is studying it."

Palm Beach County State Attorney Barry Krischer could not be reached for comment.

(Excerpt) Read more at sun-sentinel.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 2000; democrats; elections; floridarecount; fraud; ratcrime; votefraud; voter

1 posted on 07/28/2007 1:16:10 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: LdSentinal
Shirley Goldberg, an 82-year-old Democrat who lives in Delray Beach. "I registered and voted in New York when I lived there. But I've been here for the last 12 years. I haven't voted in New York since."

Somebody got some splaining to do, Lucy.

L

2 posted on 07/28/2007 1:18:50 PM PDT by Lurker (Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing small pox to ebola.)
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To: LdSentinal; Joe Brower; JulieRNR21; floriduh voter; NonValueAdded; capt. norm; fieldmarshaldj; ...

This doesn’t surprise me. Hopefully, the state will keep closer tabs on this in the future.


3 posted on 07/28/2007 1:19:15 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Open borders and outsourcing are opposite sides of the same coin)
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To: Lurker
But I've been here for the last 12 years. I haven't voted in New York since."

Maybe you haven't, Shirley. But somebody has...

4 posted on 07/28/2007 1:20:50 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Clintonfatigued

I doubt it. Democrats need this to steal elections and advance their liberal/pro-Al-Qeuda agenda.


5 posted on 07/28/2007 1:21:19 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: Clintonfatigued

Every state in the union has this problem to a greater or lesser extent. The only more prevalent problem is dead voters who are still voting (not including ballot stuffing, which is a whole different category).


6 posted on 07/28/2007 1:22:03 PM PDT by TheBattman (I've got TWO QUESTIONS for you....)
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To: Clintonfatigued

You’re crazy if you think the dems will allow monitoring of voters both dead and alive, those that may or may NOT live in the area.


7 posted on 07/28/2007 1:23:37 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: LdSentinal
60 Democrats voted in Palm Beach County and New York (in 2006)

THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS A CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE

8 posted on 07/28/2007 1:26:17 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Joe Boucher

Florida is a Republican-voting state (although marginal in Presidential elections), and Democrats hold few statewide offices. The state government isn’t about to help the Democrat party.


9 posted on 07/28/2007 1:27:00 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Open borders and outsourcing are opposite sides of the same coin)
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To: TheBattman

dead voters

that explains why the american revolution and civil war vets voted for both gore in 00 and kerry in 04.


10 posted on 07/28/2007 1:27:42 PM PDT by rineaux (good luck and keep safe)
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To: TheBattman

Illegal aliens as well. Their vote numbers outdistance the other illegal voters by a wide margin. Of course the common factor in all of them is their political party of choice — Democrat.


11 posted on 07/28/2007 1:28:39 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo (There are four types of homicide: felonious, accidental, justifiable, and praiseworthy)
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To: LdSentinal
60 Democrats voted in Palm Beach County and New York (in 2006)

In Palm Beach County? No way! That's gotta be a typo, 600 or 6,000 maybe, but not just 60.

12 posted on 07/28/2007 1:29:34 PM PDT by smoothsailing ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction"--President Ronald Reagan)
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To: LdSentinal

If only the Republicans had control of the White House and the Justice Department.


13 posted on 07/28/2007 1:30:11 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: smoothsailing
Probably 60,000.

These 60 are just the known cases of Democratic fraud.

14 posted on 07/28/2007 1:31:59 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: LdSentinal
“I registered and voted in New York when I lived there. But I’ve been here for the last 12 years. I haven’t voted in New York since.”

She actually may be telling the truth.

If she vote by absentee ballot for the election the the New York election FROM FLORIDA, then, she would technically be telling the truth.

She may also be the victim of an over zealous relative in NY who used her identity.

I would like to see the evidence and prosecution of this crime, but it will never happen.

15 posted on 07/28/2007 1:32:44 PM PDT by Mr. Jazzy (Very Proud Dad of LCpl Smoothguy242 USMC of 1/3 Marines, now fighting for freedom, on duty in Iraq.)
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To: Puppage

“THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS A CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE”

Is that “organized crime”?

If so, wouldn’t RICO apply? ;^)


16 posted on 07/28/2007 1:34:02 PM PDT by Mrs.Z
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To: Lurker
Somebody got some splaining to do, Lucy.

Well it could be Democrats in NY casting phony ballots for people who are still on the voter rolls but don't vote. If they can rise the dead to vote, I am sure voting for someone who has left the state is no problem.

17 posted on 07/28/2007 1:34:14 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: LdSentinal

LOL, yes the true number’s are probably much higher - I think this was a sting operation on the snowbirds from NY state only.

They’d better be careful, or they’ll only get to vote for Hillary once next year.


18 posted on 07/28/2007 1:34:49 PM PDT by Baladas
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To: okie01
Maybe you haven't, Shirley. But somebody has...

Surely, you can't be serious.

19 posted on 07/28/2007 1:36:39 PM PDT by lowbridge (A Gun A Day Keeps The Government Away)
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To: Lurker

I live in Pennsylvania, and I’m sure I’ll be voting democrat long after I’m gone, whether its to Florida or to the grave. I might as well vote democrat after death,as I’m not doing it now.

I guess that some persons in the shoes of Ms. Goldberg are actively voting in both places, but the prime suspects are the democrat party operatives and poll workers in New York.


20 posted on 07/28/2007 1:38:02 PM PDT by I_Like_Spam
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To: Puppage; Mrs.Z

21 posted on 07/28/2007 1:39:02 PM PDT by lowbridge (A Gun A Day Keeps The Government Away)
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To: LdSentinal
said the Republican Party has it all wrong. "Impossible," said Shirley Goldberg, an 82-year-old Democrat who lives in Delray Beach. "I registered and voted in New York when I lived there. But I've been here for the last 12 years. I haven't voted in New York since."

I would have believed this geriatric senility poster child, had it not been for her remark that it might be a crime against the Republican Party, instead of a statutory crime agains all other voters!

Just saying.

22 posted on 07/28/2007 1:40:37 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: lowbridge

LOL!!!

Is there anyway we can get that to scroll across the screen at CNN? ;))))


23 posted on 07/28/2007 1:41:23 PM PDT by Mrs.Z
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To: Publius6961
I would have believed this geriatric senility poster child,

Au contraire. I believe her. She is not senile. This is standard practice for these big city political machines, which use voter roles to commit fraud in every election.

24 posted on 07/28/2007 1:43:52 PM PDT by kabar
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To: TheBattman
The only more prevalent problem is dead voters who are still voting (not including ballot stuffing, which is a whole different category).

That's just GREAT! Now you evil Republicans are going to start disenfranchising "permanently static post-humans"!

Or would that be the "chronically non-respiratory community"?

25 posted on 07/28/2007 1:46:54 PM PDT by Triggerhippie (Always use a silencer in a crowd. Loud noises offend people.)
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To: smoothsailing

That number is way off for sure.


26 posted on 07/28/2007 1:50:51 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: Mrs.Z
Is that “organized crime”?

cf. Will Rogers.

27 posted on 07/28/2007 2:07:42 PM PDT by Grut
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To: Lurker
Somebody got some splaining to do, Lucy.

Splaining, my butt. There are "snow birds" in Texas that don't just 'splain about it, they brag about it.

28 posted on 07/28/2007 2:08:59 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Stop the invasion. Secure the borders now.)
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To: LdSentinal

Only 60?


29 posted on 07/28/2007 2:12:24 PM PDT by Radix (Mr. Natural says..."Be like two fried eggs. Keep your sunny side up.")
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To: lowbridge

And STOP calling me Shirley!


30 posted on 07/28/2007 2:13:07 PM PDT by muffaletaman
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To: LdSentinal

where is the lib/dem msm outrage....

this article will sure to be reported on every alphabet network!!


31 posted on 07/28/2007 2:16:17 PM PDT by nyyankeefan
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To: LdSentinal

I'm shocked!!
32 posted on 07/28/2007 2:19:55 PM PDT by The South Texan (The Drive By Media is America's worst enemy and American people don't know it.)
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To: Arrowhead1952
There are "snow birds" in Texas that don't just 'splain about it, they brag about it.

Sounds like a phone call to the SA is in order.

L

33 posted on 07/28/2007 2:23:02 PM PDT by Lurker (Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing small pox to ebola.)
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To: LdSentinal

I’m from Brooklyn. I grew up with these people. I tell you now these bastards were only the ones that got caught. I knew at least four people who did this. I’m sure if someone checks ( not likely) he will find this crap goes on EVERY cycle. Democrats from the north with two homes vote twice and laugh. Most Democrats I know are basically dishonest people so this does not surprise me.


34 posted on 07/28/2007 2:37:16 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (The Islamists plan to kill us.The Democrats and the ratmedia are helping them. Ft Dix proves it!)
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To: LdSentinal

"Shenanigans right here in Palm Beach County? Please, say it isn't so!!"

35 posted on 07/28/2007 2:56:39 PM PDT by Gritty (The Democrats are becoming a totalitarian cult, bent on seizing power by any means necessary-R Poe)
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To: Clintonfatigued

I live in Florida and have for 30 + years.
While a Republican state we have a Democrat senator, Nelson and a p.o.s. senator Mel Martinez.
The only dem we have in office in my county is the sheriff but he is a pretty good one and is the most powerful guy in the area.
If you want dems ya have to go to West Palm Beach where the old ladies vote in droves.


36 posted on 07/28/2007 3:00:53 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: okie01
Goldberg retired from a job in a Brooklyn hospital more than a decade ago.

Here's the key. Hospital/Nursing Home Staffs are uniformly Democrat. They apply for absentee ballots on behalf of all their residents. Guess what they do in the Break Room before an election?

Wouldn't surprise me if one of Ms. Goldberg's former co-workers has been getting a ballot in her name since she changed residency. If they kept voting her ballot, then her name remained active (This would moot any system that NY has of purging the voter roles anyway).

37 posted on 07/28/2007 3:19:17 PM PDT by Tallguy (Climate is what you plan for, weather is what you get.)
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To: LdSentinal

I remember after election 2000, here in FL the vote was all over the news. I specifically remember an old black guy upset about the butterfly ballot. He said, and I quote, “I was supposed to push the second hole. I always do the second hole”.

In other words, he has no idea who he was voting for. He just was told on the bus to push that second hole.

That’s why Buchanan got all those votes. They don’t read the ballot. They are told on the buses, in the churches, by Democrat operatives to push the second hole. So they do.

I tell you, if you really want to screw up the Dems, change all the ballots the last minute so the Dems are on top. All those people they pay to vote who don’t know what they are doing will vote the wrong person.


38 posted on 07/28/2007 4:17:39 PM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: LdSentinal

Just go to the nursing homes of south florida. How many old people who have “lost it” are voting absentee with the assistance of democrat party club staffers? Quite a few.

Even when a senior is put under a guardianship without any more right to vote due to a COURT adjudication, (it is litterally following concrete evidence of alzheimers or being in a coma) are still not take off the voter rolls.


39 posted on 07/28/2007 4:26:42 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: LdSentinal

you could put two or three zeros to the right if the 60 and still be right.


40 posted on 07/28/2007 4:33:55 PM PDT by sport
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To: LdSentinal
"Impossible," said Shirley Goldberg, an 82-year-old Democrat who lives in Delray Beach. "I registered and voted in New York when I lived there. But I've been here for the last 12 years. I haven't voted in New York since."

Hey, Shirley! If it wasn't you voting in N.Y., there's some nice Democrat back there voting for you. Not to worry, he's voting a straight Democrat ticket for you.

41 posted on 07/28/2007 7:27:51 PM PDT by penowa
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To: Triggerhippie

Members of Amalgamated Daisy Pusheruppers, Local 454. Vote Union, Vote Often!


42 posted on 07/28/2007 8:47:57 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Brian J. Marotta, 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub, (1948-2007) Rest In Peace, our FRiend)
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To: Arrowhead1952

YES, YES, YES...

I have been with large numbers of persons in South Florida who brag about voting twice....their reason is they pay taxes in two places so deserve to vote too (two)!

If they say they are not aware of it in the past...THEY LIE!!

It was reported and the names given too...several years ago! Nothing happened!


43 posted on 07/28/2007 10:05:23 PM PDT by 3D-JOY
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To: 3D-JOY; Lurker
It was reported and the names given too...several years ago! Nothing happened!

BTW, I did report this to the District ATTY's office (Travis county - and you know that means ronnie earle, so that is orifice) that those snowbirds were bragging about voting straight D tickets in two states. I never even got any feedback about the incident.

44 posted on 07/29/2007 5:48:02 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Stop the invasion. Secure the borders now.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

I am glad to know it was not just me.

I sat at a table of maybe 25 people who live in Palm Beach County...they brag about it and tell of all the others who do it too.

I think the reason they can do it is because they moved to FL long before the computers checked or other states had to be notified of a new registration. They are home in the summer so still claim residence since NY has no homestead tax benefit and Fl does have it. Absentee voting makes this easier for them too. These are OLD people...approaching 80 now? LOL


45 posted on 07/29/2007 12:50:40 PM PDT by 3D-JOY
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To: 3D-JOY
I think it may be time for a national voter ID card. You can only vote once in national elections. End of conversation. Now local elections, i.e., state, county, city, school district, that should depend only if you pay taxes in said area.
46 posted on 07/29/2007 2:20:49 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Stop the invasion. Secure the borders now.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

Maybe...but even a photo ID card can be altered. Would it just become another Social Security Number that other people and businesses or banks would demand to know?

I can not believe that the current motor voter registrations with “on my honor” I am a citizen will ever be purged of all the illegal registrants. Actually I think they will begin to use the voting record to prove they are legal...?

Wipe the slate clean and ask for the birth certificates and other documents that were needed in the past. There may be no other way and politicians will be too frightened to do this. NO HOPE?


47 posted on 07/29/2007 7:37:54 PM PDT by 3D-JOY
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To: 3D-JOY

***Wipe the slate clean and ask for the birth certificates and other documents that were needed in the past.***

The libs will say that this is just like a poll tax. Women and minorities hardest hit. I can hear the same old whining by the democrats.


48 posted on 07/30/2007 5:43:51 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Stop the invasion. Secure the borders now.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

I think they are expecting a problem and are concentrating on winning Florida! Illegal votes and all.


49 posted on 07/30/2007 6:08:32 PM PDT by 3D-JOY
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