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To: brigadoon

It represents a danger because it presents psuedoscience as real. Some people will actually believe what is presented as true science and that isn’t a good thing.

I can’t understand why fundamental Christians need to invent any sort of science. Why isn’t faith enough?


19 posted on 07/29/2007 3:27:13 PM PDT by dwhole2th (''God gets you to the plate, but once you're there, you're on your own". Ted Williams)
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To: dwhole2th
It represents a danger because it presents psuedoscience as real. Some people will actually believe what is presented as true science and that isn’t a good thing.

I can’t understand why fundamental Christians need to invent any sort of science. Why isn’t faith enough?

They can't combat the science, so they frequently resort to misrepresentation, quote mining, and outright falsehoods.

The transcript of the Dover trial, especially the testimony of some of the witnesses, showed this clearly. Behe, finally under oath, had to admit that ID was not science; he admitted that if the definition of science was changed enough to admit ID then astrology was also "science." Other witnesses were caught lying under oath! Its all in the transcript.

27 posted on 07/29/2007 4:26:36 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: dwhole2th

Christians don’t need to invent a science, but it is fun to try and figure out how God, our Father, did His work. And being more artistic minded, I like to look for His point of view behind everything He made. What really cracks me up is after God destroys all this and creates the new combo heaven and earth, where we live with Him and there is no night (I’m sad about the stars), everything we know now, principles, physics, etc., will all be worthless. Everything will be different. Jesus appeared from nowhere after He rose from the dead and walked on water and changed water into wine before He died. We don’t have a grasp of all we can do now, let alone know what it will be when we live with God. Its fun to think about. Its good to think about. Like being in love.


40 posted on 07/29/2007 9:02:13 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: dwhole2th

“Why isn’t faith enough?”

Because the Bible states in many places God created the earth and even tells us how He did it. If our faith is based on the Bible and the Bible is wrong about creation, our faith is flawed. I’ve listened to a few sermons by Ken Ham and he lays out why creation is important to the fundamental doctrine of sin and redemption.

If you’re really asking the question, “Why isn’t faith enough?” You should check out Ken Ham’s sermons. You can get them here: sermonaudio.com Search by speaker and you’ll find his stuff. Sorry I can’t post a direct link.


49 posted on 07/31/2007 8:13:56 AM PDT by demshateGod
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To: dwhole2th
Why isn’t faith enough?

Issac Newton, for example, was a beliving Christian who formulated a profound theory of gravitation suitable enough to steer spacecraft among the planets.

At the same time experiments in alchemy probably contributed to his death.

Einstein (also a beleiver or sorts) formulated a deeper theory of gravitation that conceived of the bending of space and time, that reduced to Newton's at lower energies. Yet he knew that his theory did not comport with quantum mechanics which had been formulated comtemporaneously, and he died frustrated that he had not succeeded in unifying the two despite his monumental efforts.

Now some supect that there may be a deeply unifying aspect in M-Theory (membranes), but the energies neccessary to test it are outside our current abilities to probe nature that deeply. But it remains such a beautiful theory that some physicists have dedicated their entire careers to this elusive goal.

Yet underneath it all, I believe, is God.

As for evolution...if we understood how changes in genes affect changes in species, I believe we'd understand that too.

But never at the level of God, who's yet constituted a vast and beautiful universe for us to explore.

110 posted on 08/02/2007 3:22:12 PM PDT by onedoug
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