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To: kjam22
I just closely watched the rerun of BO and I took notes. I think there is a huge overreaction to the show.

First, O'Reilly did not mention FR or even comment on it. Lanny Davis mentioned Freedom Republic.com. The entire discussion was about the hate on KOSS which BO is steamed about. Not coming to the defense of FR is meaningless and probably has more to do with his ignorance of the site than anything else.

I think there is a lot of posters who do not like O'Reilly personally and are blinded to the mostly conservative views expressed by him. This is what he had to say tonight.

Attacks KOSS and MoveOnOrg and Democrat presidential contenders. Conservative

Said that if Democrat contenders are afraid of KOSS how would they handle Al Quida. Conservative

Attacks vile rapper. Conservative

Supported Catholic Priest who wants corporations to quit supporting trash with their advertising and spokespersons. Conservative

Questions Bush administration for removing National Guard from Mexican border. States that a secure border has to be number one.Conservative

Supported hate crime prosecution for koran dunker. Not conservative

Attacks KOSS and Democrat contenders again. Conservative

Compliments NY Times for reporting positive results in Iraq. Conservative

States things in Iraq are getting better because of Petraeous' strategy. Conservative

O'Reilly is the number one cable news show. At least tonight, he espoused mostly conservative positions. How does it help us to trash him?

O'Reilly did not dis FR tonight, he didn't even mention its name. If FR posters continue to trash, in a continuously coarser manner, anyone who does not agree with them 100%, fewer people will post and FR's influence will be diminished. That would be a shame.

BTW, I agree that O'Reilly is a blowhard, but he is a blowhard that can be used to promote the conservative agenda and that is important.

351 posted on 07/30/2007 9:28:57 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Prokopton

Thank you for your time and efforts in documenting some facts, Prokopton. Well done.


354 posted on 07/30/2007 9:36:36 PM PDT by Chena (“If you would win a man to your cause, first convince him that you are his sincere friend”-LINCOLN)
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To: Prokopton

I agree with all your points. I think it’s foolish to attack O’Reilly and Fox News. This country would be in a much worse state if we didn’t have Fox News.

Do I agree with them all the time? Absolutely not. But they are getting the “other news” out there.

O’Reilly was calling out the Dim candidates for supporting the Kos. That was the point.


355 posted on 07/30/2007 9:39:06 PM PDT by Shortstop7
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To: Prokopton
"States things in Iraq are getting better because of Petraeous' strategy. Conservative"

When did he say that? Because it was only a few days ago that he said this...

The Truth about Iraq [Bill O'Reilly: "Enough's enough ... Americans are sick of it" Fox News ^ | July 12, 2007 | Bill O'Reilly

"The president's argument for sustaining the war is largely theoretical and he is correct: A defeat in Iraq would harm the United States and could lead to a greater conflict down the road."

"But there comes a time when enough's enough. The U.S. military did not lose the Vietnam War, the country just became exhausted by it and a deal was made to get out of there. Same thing is happening in Iraq. After four years many Americans are just sick of it."

"Doesn't help the Iraqi government is incompetent and the people themselves largely ungrateful. ..."

"Iraq remains a huge stone around America's neck."

"And that's The Memo."

357 posted on 07/30/2007 10:00:04 PM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something. (Fred/Newt '08))
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To: Prokopton; kjam22
I think there is a huge overreaction to the show.

The vast majority of the reaction on this thread has nothing to do with the contents of tonight's show as aired on the FNC.

The responses are mostly a result of this thread's salacious title, which, after having had the benefit of viewing the segment in question several times, I find lacks any semblance as to what actually took place.

If I were the originator of this thread, after having had the luxury of watching the segment repeatedly, I would ask that the post and subsequent thread be pulled.

I noticed that the post was made @ 8 minutes past the hour, which was immediately after the segment ended. I trust that the originator of this post did not intend to intentionally mislead, but, after having had the benefit of hindsight, I would hope that the appropriate corrective measure be taken.

358 posted on 07/30/2007 10:01:02 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: Prokopton

Bravo! Since I have not watched BOR in a long time I too easily accepted the impression that he agreed with the vile Lanny Davis attacking FR. It is good to be set straight! I still think BOR tries too hard to be gentle to the Demagogues sometimes, as in his 2004 attack on the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth (which is when I pretty much washed my TV remote of him). While he is not a serious conservative, he does as you note often take a more conservative/tradtional position than most/nearly all in the MSM. That’s the best we can hope for on TV!


383 posted on 07/31/2007 3:23:37 AM PDT by Enchante (Reid and Pelosi Defeatocrats: Surrender Now - Peace for Our Time!!)
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To: Prokopton
" BTW, I agree that O'Reilly is a blowhard, but he is a blowhard that can be used to promote the conservative agenda and that is important."

Oh, please. Outside of Geraldo Rivera and Alan Colmes, I can't think of anyone on Fox that I would rather NOT have promoting "the conservative agenda" than O'Really. At least pick a conservative to do that, not somebody whose hair stands on end when someone accuses him of being conservative. I take him at his word that he is NOT conservative; you should too.

440 posted on 07/31/2007 1:07:25 PM PDT by penowa
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