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Poland defies [EU] move to block road through protected forest
The Times ^ | 7/31/2007 | David Crossland

Posted on 07/31/2007 10:44:35 PM PDT by bruinbirdman

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1 posted on 07/31/2007 10:44:38 PM PDT by bruinbirdman
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Wake up Europe!! The EU is going to micro-manage every decision that ought to be subject to local and/or national control. Think you can build an 11 mile road where YOU think it should be? Think again.....


2 posted on 07/31/2007 11:35:42 PM PDT by Enchante (Reid and Pelosi Defeatocrats: Surrender Now - Peace for Our Time!!)
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To: Enchante

No states rights?


3 posted on 07/31/2007 11:57:43 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: bruinbirdman

Given the political attitude of the polish prime this issue should be only a small miracle.

If you are fighting like a cat for the right to stall european decisions this is certainly what you get - no money.


4 posted on 08/01/2007 12:02:06 AM PDT by Rummenigge (there's people willing to blow out the light because it casts a shadow)
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To: Rummenigge
How many Spotted Owls live in the Primevil Forest?

yitbos

5 posted on 08/01/2007 12:14:30 AM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: Rummenigge; Enchante
According to Finnish news the Polish government has decided to postpone the restart of the building of the road.

Rummenigge, are you saying that the EU commission is having Poland in its sights because it may not sign up on the new "constitution"?

You don't have to answer - the answer is quite obvious. Here is another example:

State aid row puts Gdansk shipyard at risk

6 posted on 08/01/2007 12:20:07 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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European route E67, also known as the Via Baltica, is a highway running from Prague in the Czech Republic to Helsinki in Finland by way of Poland, Kaunas (Lithuania), Riga (Latvia), and Tallinn (Estonia). It is the most important road connection between the Baltic states.

The final stretch between Tallinn and Helsinki is by ferry (with about 20 departures each direction per day).

It is referred to as the Via Baltica in Northern Poland, Lithuania, Riga and Estonia, a distance of 670 km.

The Via Baltica attracted great controversy in February 2007, as its planned route is to take it through several areas in Poland of great natural value. Most controversial is the Augustow bypass, which would take the route through the wetlands of the Rospuda Valley, the last area of its kind remaining in Europe, and an area protected by EU law as part of the European Natura 2000 Network. The Polish environment minister Jan Szyszko has agreed to the route, despite receiving on the 28th Feburary 2007, a warning from the European Commission that Poland would be fined for going ahead with the route. Campaigners have proposed an alternative, cheaper route.
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Interesting international bickering stuff, especially since there is no EU Constitution and the treaty has not been ratified.

yitbos

7 posted on 08/01/2007 12:37:02 AM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: Rummenigge

Surprisingly there are so many beautiful highways in Europe (Western I mean) that were build, without all this greenpeace madness, by governments of Western European countries.

What is more surprising is the fact how eco-terrorists in Brussels do not allow us to have similar highways here.


8 posted on 08/01/2007 1:23:35 AM PDT by Verdelet (Poland existed long before it's neighbours did... it will last long after it's neighbours cease...)
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To: Verdelet

Brussel just said they are not paying for it.

Again - given the appoach of polish leaders towards europe I guess this is not really a miracle.


9 posted on 08/01/2007 1:27:37 AM PDT by Rummenigge (there's people willing to blow out the light because it casts a shadow)
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To: ScaniaBoy

I would guess so.

Would you think that the attitude of the Kaszinskies whould be without consequences ?

Noone loves traitors.


10 posted on 08/01/2007 1:52:38 AM PDT by Rummenigge (there's people willing to blow out the light because it casts a shadow)
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To: Rummenigge; Verdelet

Traitors!!?????

Is that how you see politicians who don’t give in to the masters of the EU?


11 posted on 08/01/2007 2:47:52 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: Verdelet

I’ve now been to Poland twice. That country is in desparate need of four laners with limited access, and they know it.


12 posted on 08/01/2007 2:55:21 AM PDT by chopperman
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To: Rummenigge

Good for the Poles! To hell with the EU.


13 posted on 08/01/2007 3:12:04 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: ScaniaBoy

no that’s what I say to corrupt politicians.


14 posted on 08/01/2007 3:24:45 AM PDT by Rummenigge (there's people willing to blow out the light because it casts a shadow)
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To: agere_contra

Now you just have to complain about that you are not getting billions of german tax payers money to build roads and harbours and you could go for presidency in poland.


15 posted on 08/01/2007 3:26:16 AM PDT by Rummenigge (there's people willing to blow out the light because it casts a shadow)
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To: ScaniaBoy

http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/06/20/europe/poland.php?page=1

just read. It’s so boring running circles.


16 posted on 08/01/2007 3:42:09 AM PDT by Rummenigge (there's people willing to blow out the light because it casts a shadow)
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To: Rummenigge

I read that whole article and I could not find any mention of the Kaczynski brothers being corrupt. Schröder - yes, definitely, but not the Poles.


17 posted on 08/01/2007 3:48:16 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: Rummenigge

it is time to institute the POLE TOLL and build the road and charge every EU vehicle an extraordinarily high useage fee... using the fee to pay for the road and enlarge protected forest lands for future toll roads.

when we do finally submit to the one world government, i fear the day individual rights are trod upon... oh wait, nevermind, already fearful.

teeman


18 posted on 08/01/2007 4:08:31 AM PDT by teeman8r
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actually I find the idea of maut intreaguing. Why have tax payers pay for the roads and not those who use them. If it was in private hands it would even mean better roads.


19 posted on 08/01/2007 4:37:24 AM PDT by Rummenigge (there's people willing to blow out the light because it casts a shadow)
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To: bruinbirdman

It’s wolves actually. As I said - idoubt that this is the issue.

I was leaning a bit far out the window when I said this might have something to do with the behaviour of the duck twins. But then again - some states and certainly many guys in brussels must feel the need to pay back.

It’s really about the twins ability to find european majorites in the end - wich is something they just fail to achieve.


20 posted on 08/01/2007 4:40:32 AM PDT by Rummenigge (there's people willing to blow out the light because it casts a shadow)
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