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QUIRKY long shots Dennis Kucinich and RON PAUL stand TALL on Iraq
Baltimore Sun ^ | August 1, 2007 | Thomas F. Schaller

Posted on 08/01/2007 7:29:25 AM PDT by rface

Do long-shot presidential candidates Dennis J. Kucinich, a Democrat, and Ron Paul, a Libertarian-turned-Republican, play any useful role in their respective parties' nomination contests?


Dennis J. Kucinich and his lovely, tall, beautiful and sexy new wife Elizabeth Harper Kucinich.

Clearly, the likelihood of either of these two congressmen being nominated is roughly equivalent to my chances of starting at left tackle for the Ravens this season........

But there is a case to be made for their inclusion, even their necessity, and that case boils down to a single issue in which thousands of lives and hundreds of billions of dollars are at stake: Iraq.

Indeed, when it comes to the war, the sixth-term, 60-year-old Democrat and his 10th-term, 71-year-old Republican colleague sound very similar.


Ron Paul

"I have been one of the strongest opponents of military action against Iraq," Mr. Paul said during the floor debate over one recent legislative proposal to start pulling the troops back. "I voted against the initial authorization in 2002 ...... I believe our troops should be brought back to the United States without delay."

At almost every opportunity, Mr. Kucinich also reminds listeners that he was the only Democratic candidate to vote against the war and appropriating subsequent funds to continue it - a statement clearly intended to contrast himself with, if not partially embarrass, his fellow Democrats.

......in a country where majorities think the war was a mistake, has not been worth it, has aggravated terrorism risks for the country and needs to end, is it a bad thing to have two quirky gadflies who hold their colleagues to account for the biggest policy fiasco in decades?

(Excerpt) Read more at baltimoresun.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: asseenonstormfront; fringe; kucinich; paul; paulestinians; theantisemiteschoice
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Who should I support........that sick pro-abortion Giuliani ........ or Romney the Mormon ....... or McCain the enemy of free speech .... or Fred Thompson the “Empty Suit” ..... or that Big Strong Texan, Ron Paul.
1 posted on 08/01/2007 7:29:28 AM PDT by rface
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To: rface

Paul/Kucinich ‘08!

And Michael Moore can be their SecDef!


2 posted on 08/01/2007 7:31:24 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative (Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.)
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"I voted against the initial authorization in 2002

At least he's consistent. And meanwhile, once again the dems will nominate someone who voted FOR the war and then turned against it.

3 posted on 08/01/2007 7:31:29 AM PDT by Huck (Soylent Green is People.)
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To: rface; George W. Bush; John Farson; OrthodoxPresbyterian

Honorable Ron Paul bump


4 posted on 08/01/2007 7:31:56 AM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: rface

Don’t worry! There will be no election in 2008.
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/07/31/2874/


5 posted on 08/01/2007 7:33:03 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: Huck
At least he's consistent.

Ron Paul's consistent anti-Americanism is hardly a recommendation for office.

One might as well nominate Louis Farrakhan on similar grounds.

6 posted on 08/01/2007 7:34:10 AM PDT by wideawake
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Ron Paul's consistent anti-Americanism is hardly a recommendation for office.

I wouldn't say he's anti-American. He's definitely a rigid isolationist, and his advocacy of an immediate pullout is irresponsible. I'm just saying that unlike Shrillary, or John Kerry, he's been consistent. It is far worse, in my view, to have voted for the war and THEN advocate anti war positions.

7 posted on 08/01/2007 7:37:10 AM PDT by Huck (Soylent Green is People.)
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It is far worse, in my view, to have voted for the war and THEN advocate anti war positions.

Ron Paul's record is cloudier than that.

He initially supported intervention against Afghanistan and then he changed his mind.

He initially opposed intervention in Iraq, then he drafted a declaration of war against Iraq and then he went back to opposing the intervention in Iraq.

Ron Paul thinks this is all a game.

8 posted on 08/01/2007 7:40:47 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: rface
Romney the Mormon? How do you people live with yourselves?

You sound just like the liberals who do not want to vote for the Christianists.
9 posted on 08/01/2007 7:44:06 AM PDT by elizabetty (The funding dried up and I can no longer afford Tagline Messages.)
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To: rface
a nice looking First Lady.....


10 posted on 08/01/2007 7:44:43 AM PDT by rface (Ron Paul.....Big Strong Texan)
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To: rface
Ron Paul is not a long shot, he is a no shot.

Even he knows it.
11 posted on 08/01/2007 7:45:10 AM PDT by elizabetty (The funding dried up and I can no longer afford Tagline Messages.)
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To: elizabetty
good grief. I am kidding!

uhhh hmmmm. Some of my best friends are Mormons....... is that better?

12 posted on 08/01/2007 7:46:08 AM PDT by rface (Ron Paul.....Big Strong Texan)
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To: rface

Quirky wasn’t the word I had in mind for either of them.


13 posted on 08/01/2007 7:46:30 AM PDT by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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a nice looking First Lady.....

A trophy wife? No wait, that's Fred Thompson that has a trophy wife.

14 posted on 08/01/2007 7:51:42 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Without the fence, deporting illegals is like shoveling water.)
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To: rface

The munchkins wife is “lovely, tall, beautiful and sexy “ and Freds is a ‘trophy wife”.

Nope, No bias there!


15 posted on 08/01/2007 7:54:32 AM PDT by Hazcat (We won an immigration BATTLE, the WAR is not over. Be ever vigilant.)
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and his lovely, tall, beautiful and sexy new wife...

Sounds like this guy has been away from women too long.

16 posted on 08/01/2007 7:56:10 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

moonbattery at it’s finest...


17 posted on 08/01/2007 7:57:21 AM PDT by Edgerunner (If you won't let the military fight your battles, you will have to. Keep your powder dry...)
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To: Fresh Wind
Fred and Jeri Thompson


18 posted on 08/01/2007 7:57:46 AM PDT by rface (Ron Paul.....Big Strong Texan)
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To: rface
or that Big Strong Texan, Ron Paul.

Man, you just make my day as you keep posting this.. I am laughing myself silly..

19 posted on 08/01/2007 8:09:00 AM PDT by mnehring (Ron Paul is as much of a Constitutionalist as Fred Phelps is a Christian)
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To: wideawake
He initially opposed intervention in Iraq, then he drafted a declaration of war against Iraq and then he went back to opposing the intervention in Iraq.

The real scary part about Paul and this to me is he went back on this based on semantic arguments of the words 'war' versus 'force' because the Constitution grants the power to declare war to Congress.. he took this and basically say the granting of power constituted the specifics as to 'how' it should be worded... Anyone who cares more about playing semantic games with the Constitution over protecting and defending the country it is built on is dangerous.

20 posted on 08/01/2007 8:12:05 AM PDT by mnehring (Ron Paul is as much of a Constitutionalist as Fred Phelps is a Christian)
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