Posted on 08/02/2007 8:00:29 AM PDT by SJackson
Bush Admin. won't sell Israel new stealth bomber
ZOA: BUSH ADMINISTRATION IS WRONG
TO SEEK $20 BILLION ARMS SALE TO
JIHAD-SUPPORTING SAUDIS
New York - The Zionist Organization of America (ZOA) has described as
"deeply mistaken" plans announced by the Bush Administration to conclude a
$20 billion arms deal with Saudi Arabia on account of continuing Saudi
support for Islamists waging jihad against Israel and the West, its
lavishing of funds on Islamist institutions disseminating hatred of Jews and
other non-Muslims and rewarding suicide bombers who murder Israelis . The
arms package is expected to include Joint Direct Attack Munitions (JDAM) - a
low-cost guidance kit that converts existing unguided free-fall bombs into
accurately guided "smart" weapons.
The arms package for Saudi Arabia would also include satellite-guided bombs.
Israeli defense establishment officials have warned that the sale of
satellite-guided missiles to Saudi Arabia has the potential to constitute a
strategic threat to the state of Israel. According to these experts, these
advanced weapons would grant Saudi Arabia the capability to accurately fire
missiles at strategic sites and installations in southern Israel .
A senior Israeli Defense Ministry official has disclosed that "We do not
have a way to defend ourselves against this weapon." The official also
warned that the Saudi regime could be toppled and the advanced American
weaponry fall into the hands of worse extremists. Senior defense officials
also said that the JDAM sale to Saudi Arabia was still enough to destabilize
the strategic military balance in the Middle East ( Jerusalem Post, July
30).
Discussions last month in Washington between an Israeli Defense Ministry
delegation, led by Defense Ministry Diplomatic-Military Bureau head Amos
Gilad and Maj.-Gen. Ido Nehushtan, head of the IDF Planning Directorate, and
Pentagon officials to see if the package could be changed left the Israelis
dissatisfied. Further, an Israeli request to acquire the F-22 stealth
bomber - a plane that can avoid radar detection - in order to retain
Israel's qualitative edge was also turned down. Another Israeli official
said that "We were told that the plane's sale was currently off the table .
It does not look like that will change under this administration."
The proposed arms package also includes a 25% increase in U.S. military aid,
from an annual $2.4 billion to $3 billion a year, guaranteed for 10 years,
plus an additional $13 billion for Egypt in the same period. Members of
Congress vowed yesterday to oppose any deal to Saudi Arabia on grounds that
the kingdom has been unhelpful in Iraq and unreliable at fighting terrorism.
King Abdullah has called the U.S . military presence in Iraq an
"illegitimate occupation," and the Saudis have been either unable or
unwilling to stop suicide bombers who have ended up in Iraq.
New York Sun journalist Youssef Ibrahim reports that "Senior American
officials expressing 'frustration with the Saudi government' and accusing it
of both 'significant efforts to undermine the Iraqi government' and
'obstructing a number of other American foreign policy initiatives.'"
Ibrahim also notes that the 1987 founding of the terrorist group Hamas,
whose leaders once resided in Saudi Arabia, was overwhelmingly a
Saudi-financed project undertaken by Islamic charities, including those of
Sulaiman Al-Rajhi, a reclusive Saudi octogenarian with a personal fortune of
$12 billion and his own Islamic bank with 500 branches in Saudi Arabia and a
few more around the Muslim world. According to the CIA, Mr. Rajhi's
organizations have acted as conduits, financiers, and facilitators for a
wide variety of Islamic terror groups - from al-Qaeda to Hamas - for about
20 years now. Also, half the terrorists killed by the Lebanese army in the
ongoing siege at the Nahr el-Bared refugee camp in Lebanon, which began in
May, have turned out to be Saudi jihadist fighters, while 40% of foreign
terrorists killing Iraqi civilians and American servicemen in Iraq are
Saudis ( New York Sun, July 30).
Additionally, Saudi Arabia also does not permit basic human rights, like
freedom of religion. No religion other than Wahhabi Islam is permitted to be
practiced, churches and synagogues are forbidden in the kingdom, women are
not allowed to drive cars and Jews are excluded from medical and
construction projects in the country.
Dr. Mordechai Nisan, Professor of Middle Eastern Studies at the Hebrew
University of Jerusalem, has recently written in a monograph, Saudi Arabia's
jihad in the Middle East and the World: Implications for the US and Thoughts
for American Policy, that "It is Saudi Arabia, more than Iran or al-Qaeda,
which is the primary promoter of global jihad in our times . Israel . is a
target of relentless Saudi ambitions . A revision of Washington's
traditional policy towards Saudi Arabia is the issue to be considered."
Under the law, the president is required to formally notify Congress of an
impending arms deal, and Congress then has a 30-day window to pass a Joint
Resolution of Disapproval. Standing yesterday in front of the Saudi
Consulate in New York, Congressmen Anthony Weiner and Jerrold Nadler
condemned Saudi Arabia as a sponsor of terrorism unworthy of American
military support and that they would introduce legislation to oppose it as
soon as Congress is officially notified. Congressman Robert Wexler (D-FL)
also joined Weiner in pledging to introduce a joint resolution of
disapproval to block the deals when Congress is formally notified. At least
seven other Members of Congress have expressed support for a Joint
Resolution of Disapproval ( New York Sun, July 30). Congressman Eliot Engel
(D-NY) has also expressed deep concern about the proposed package ( Haaretz,
July 30). Congressman Roy Blunt (R-MO) has indicated that there is much
concern about the proposed deal and that getting it through Congress will be
a challenge for the Administration.
Criticism of the proposed Saudi arms deal from legislators:
Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-NY): "The folly of this arms deal is beyond belief.
Saudi Arabia is the no. 1 exporter of terrorism in the world today. They are
not our friends. We cannot trust how they will use their arms. . We don't
have to give them high-tech weapons which may be turned against our friends
or us" ( New York Sun, July 30).
Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-NY): "They are paying the bills for the suicide
bombers. It is not an accident that 15 of the 19 suicide attackers here on
our soil were Saudis . looking for the moderate Arab state might be akin to
looking for the unicorn" ( New York Sun, July 30); "The reputation of the
Saudis has taken quite a beating since 9/11, and despite the fact that the
administration has done everything to portray them as part of the moderate
Arab world, members of Congress of both parties are increasingly skeptical"
( Washington Post , July 29). "Saudi Arabia should not get an ounce of
military support from the U.S until they unequivocally denounce terrorism
and take tangible steps to prevent it." (Press release, May 24).
Rep. Tom Lantos (D-CA), chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee:
"This is not a sale at Macy's that you go in and buy a bunch of stuff. There
are a complex set of relationships behind it, and while it's very desirable
to have the Saudis and others recognize that Iran is an existential threat,
there is also a degree of responsibility that they have to show on broader
U.S. foreign policy interests" (Washington Post, July 29).
Rep. Carolyn Maloney (D-NY): "We have grave reservations that this arms sale
to Saudi Arabia could allow weapons to slip into terrorist hands" (New York
Sun, July 30).
ZOA National President Morton A. Klein said, "The ZOA opposes this proposed
arms package for Saudi Arabia in the strongest terms and praises the efforts
being made by Representatives Engel, Lantos, Maloney, Nadler, Weiner and
Wexler. The ZOA praises their activism on this issue. Saudi Arabia's record
in funding and disseminating Islamist hate ideology worldwide and its
support for terrorist groups that murder Israelis is something for which it
has never been held to account. At a bare minimum, therefore, it is
incumbent upon the United States to withhold advanced technology that would
affect the military balance between Israel and the Arab states. While the
ZOA strongly supports the increased levels of military aid for Israel
proposed in this package, the Saudi arms package is an entirely separate
issue that must be judged on its own merits - and these are completely
lacking.
"Saudi Arabia has not behaved like a US ally that deserves this level of
support and friendship from the United States. We should not forget that
Saudi Arabia is not playing its part in fighting regional terrorism, because
it continues to disseminate its extreme Wahhabi ideology in mosques around
the world. Nor is it promoting Arab-Israeli peace. The Saudi so-called Peace
Initiative demands massive Israeli concessions before the Arab states would
even take any steps to recognize Israel and live in peace with her.
Moreover, Saudi Arabia threatened Israel with war if it failed to agree to
the terms of its Initiative , the Saudi Foreign Minister, Saud al-Faisal,
even stating that " [If Israel does not agree to the offer, it will be
placing its future] in the hands of the lords of war" ( Washington Times,
March 29). This is clearly not a state fostering peace or fighting
terrorism.
"To proceed with this sale in effect simply tells the Saudis that we believe
that their policies and conduct are satisfactory and that they need make no
move towards fulfilling their commitments to America as an ally. In this
context, it is worth noting that Saudi Arabia lied in November 2005 to the
US in promising to drop its economic boycott of Israel, something which it
has actually admitted to have continued since that date. Therefore,
proceeding with this sale essentially tells the Saudis that they will not be
held accountable for their words and deeds. Moreover, no-one has suggested
that Saudi Arabia is likely to be attacked by Iran or needs it for its
legitimate self-defense. That being the case, why are we selling these
weapons to Riyadh?
"Selling sophisticated high-tech weaponry to Saudi Arabia will seriously
reduce Israel's qualitative military superiority over Arab states that do
not accept her existence, which the United States is pledged to uphold and
is therefore inconsistent with both American and Israeli interests."
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Couldn’t agree with you more.
Bush Administration Is Wrong To Seek $20 Billion Arms Sale To Jihad-Supporting Saudis.
This is self evident.
But exactly how does an “arms deal” actually work?
Who is selling the weapons?
Who is paying for the weapons?
Are the weapons paid for with US tax dollars?
This could be looked at as putting the Saudi’s on a very short leash.. basically, it gives us control to turn off or on their military equipment at will.
You stated this before to me. I don’t believe it in its entirety.
Personally I don’t think I’d send the double dealing Saudis anything more then a bucket of dog pooh.
Damn, I'm mad!!!!!!!
Sometimes (the small minority of the time) we give away weapons, but in this case, the Saudis will be paying for them.
Nazi Germany= Iran
Fascist Italy= Syria
Eastern Europe= Lebanon, Jordan, Kuwait
Russia= Saudi Arabia
England= Israel
France= Iraq
We need to support Saudi Arabia enough to counter the Nazis in Iran, but not too much, because long-term, they are an enemy too.
And they should still go.
I agree. It will eventually be used against us, just like Iran. If this is the solution to stopping Iran, it’s a bad one, because Iran will just assimilate those arms eventually. They’re like the junk Borg or something.
We do control the GPS network, but short of turning it off over Israel, which might cause more difficulty for the Israeli's than it would help, I'm not sure how much control that gives us.
GPS is a one way communication. The satellites broadcast information which the GPS receiver uses to determine location.
The broadcast could be turned off, or made less accurate, but we can't selectively disable some weapons using it.
The weapons themselves could be programmed to not work in Israel, but that might be reverse engineered given time.
I don't think we could reliably prevent these weapons from being used against Israel, or even against us if they fell into the wrong hands.
so why does the article refer to “aid” to Saudi Arabia, then ?
These fantic killers have enough weapons. When and if the Wahhabists eject the Saud family - as they probably will -any weapons there will fall into their hands, just like the nuclear weapons in Pakistan will ultimately fall into the hands of Talibanistas when they kill Mushareff.
I gather you would prefer that the Saudis NOT spend their $20 billion dollars to buy aircraft manufactured in the US, but instead funnel those dollars to terrorists to finance the construction of suicide vests, IEDs, drone-bombs, etc. to be used against the US.
A foolish position to take, IMHO...
Got me.
Very true, but when faced with the possibility they are going to get their equipment from China, N. Korea, Russia, or us, which would we have the best chance of controlling through things like SOSCOE, or as has been mentioned, tracking it through GPS. This also makes the Saudis dependent on us, and thus, our best interest is more vital to their infrastructure. If they acquired this equipment from China, for example, then they would be looking out for China's best interest and we would not have any chance of a SOSCOE type control over the equipment...
There is always more to the story than the first knee jerk reactions a lot of people have.. kind of like Dubai Ports.. we lost an opportunity to have our agents in ports all around the world and all of DPI's ports upgraded with US security measures..
Thanks for answering!
Sometimes (the small minority of the time) we give away weapons, but in this case, the Saudis will be paying for them.
Ok, so if the saudis are buying weapons, who are they buying them from? US? manufacturers? Why is bush involved? surely a sovereign nation can make it’s own decisions about their own spending..........
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