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Dems’ 'Real Big Problem'
The Hill ^ | 8/3/07 | Byron York

Posted on 08/03/2007 9:18:21 AM PDT by bnelson44

The Iraq debate that we’ve been watching this year has been about two bets.

After false starts and misplaced hopes in 2004, and 2005, and 2006, George W. Bush is betting his surge strategy will facilitate the political progress that could bring a semblance of stability to Iraq.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) are betting the surge will fail. It’s as simple as that. If Bush wins his bet, Iraq will be a better place, the Middle East will be a better place, and America will be a safer place.

But Reid and Pelosi lose if Bush wins. Given the position they have staked out for themselves, the best possible outcome is for Gen. David Petraeus to give a downbeat report on the surge when he comes before Congress in September. That would give tremendous momentum to those who want the quickest possible U.S. withdrawal from Iraq.

It’s the dilemma of being in the opposition in wartime. By betting so much of their political capital on the issue, Reid and Pelosi have become invested in U.S. failure. A U.S. success would throw a wrench in their plans.

That sounds harsh. But just read what Rep. James Clyburn (D-S.C.) told The Washington Post.

This week the paper reported that many Democrats “have anticipated that, at best, Petraeus and U.S. ambassador to Iraq Ryan Crocker would present a mixed analysis of the success of the current troop surge strategy, given continued violence in Baghdad.” But now, the Post continued, “there have been signs that the commander of U.S. forces might be preparing something more generally positive.”

And that, Clyburn told the paper, would be “a real big problem for us.”

Clyburn’s comments are the flip side of what Reid said in April when he declared, “We’re going to pick up Senate seats as a result of this war. Sen. [Charles] Schumer has shown me numbers that are compelling and astounding.”

Schumer (D-N.Y.) also said, “Look at the poll numbers of Republican senators, and the war in Iraq is a lead weight attached to their ankle.” As a result, Schumer predicted, some Republicans face “extinction” while Democrats pick up more seats. American success in Iraq could mess all of that up.

It’s a terrible position for Democrats to be in, one they could have avoided if they had given the surge time to succeed or fail. But they put all their chips on failure before it even began.

That’s why we have seen such frenzied criticism of what is probably the most debated op-ed of the year, this week’s article in The New York Times entitled “A War We Just Might Win,” by Michael O’Hanlon and Kenneth Pollack.

The authors, both with the Brookings Institution, were early proponents of the war and later critics of Bush’s handling of it. Now, they write, “We are finally getting somewhere in Iraq, at least in military terms,” and they see the possibility of “a sustainable stability that both we and the Iraqis could live with.”

They might be wrong; in the fifth year of this war, anyone who is not deeply skeptical about reports of progress just isn’t being realistic. And even if the surge is working, war supporters can be rightly furious at Bush for not doing it years ago. But at least they aren’t betting on — haven’t staked their hopes on — American failure.

Who would want to do that?


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; byronyork; iraq; iraqsurge; kennethpollack; michaelohanlon; notjustoneproblem; pelosi; reid; whichone
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To: HitmanLV
LBJ was far more charismatic than Hillary Clinton and our human nature is more tolerable of a mean man than a mean woman. We call a mean woman a B****, the majority of voters are not going to elect a B**** for President.
41 posted on 08/03/2007 11:38:32 AM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush.)
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To: bnelson44
There will be a gathering on Spetember 15.... My message will be "Traitorous Cowards Cut And Run" and as always....
42 posted on 08/03/2007 11:39:32 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Happiness is a down sleeping bag)
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To: jveritas
Exactly!

Democrats are more likely to lose big.

43 posted on 08/03/2007 11:43:21 AM PDT by 1035rep
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To: jveritas

OK, if you say so. I think it’s immature to think Hilly is unelectable, that’s all.


44 posted on 08/03/2007 11:45:09 AM PDT by HitmanLV ("Lord, give me chastity and temperance, but not now." - St. Augustine)
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To: bnelson44
In total tonnage, Ted Kennedy is the Dims biggest problem.
45 posted on 08/03/2007 11:46:33 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (All our Washington Comedians.. politicians ? whatever!,say to Mexico: " Take my country....Please.")
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To: 1035rep

Amen.


46 posted on 08/03/2007 11:58:02 AM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush.)
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To: bnelson44
Dems’ 'Real Big Problem'

Not when the drive-bye's provide cover for them

47 posted on 08/03/2007 12:04:00 PM PDT by fulldeck
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To: bnelson44
George Bush is not risking his life in Afganistan or Iraq (others are) but he is risking his sacred honor in lobbying heavily for 20+ million Amnestied prospective and soon to be registered to VOTE DEMOCRATS..

If amnesty does not happen(with ramifications above) it will NOT BE because Bush had anything to do with it.. Soon American republicans will come to their senses and wonder about this very very strange attitude of G. Bush.. not to speak of his boy Sutton and the 2 border guards.. Sandy Berger WILL NOT go away either..

George Bush had better hope the WOT will delay a proper look at his domestic agenda.. How deep is the Mexican Drug Cartels( i,e, mexican gov't) embedded in Americas intelligence structure and political infrastucture?... For that matter is the Mexican Drug cartels not Mexican AT ALL but instead International??...

48 posted on 08/03/2007 12:09:46 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: I see my hands

Well I guess Rudy will have the question he asked in the first debate answered,If there is progress reported in september will the main stream biased left wing journalists report it ?
We all know the answer to that one, they will report it all right and then comes the big BUT...


49 posted on 08/03/2007 12:23:27 PM PDT by ballplayer
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To: knyteflyte3

I’m seeing that old graphic as a great campaign poster against the dems. DEMOCRAT’S ANTI-AMERICAN BAGGAGE


50 posted on 08/03/2007 12:27:35 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: GFritsch
I do not dispute that Nancy thinks or speaks this way, but can you supply a citation for the comments she made?

Thanks, schu

51 posted on 08/03/2007 12:39:09 PM PDT by schu
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To: SunkenCiv

I live for the day when Reid and Pelosi are defeated and sachay their sorry carpetbaggin’ cabooses the h@ll out of Washington.


52 posted on 08/03/2007 12:46:55 PM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (Hunter and Tancredo in '08! La Raza - the PLO of the Western Hemisphere)
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To: WVNan
I’m seeing that old graphic as a great campaign poster against the dems. DEMOCRAT’S ANTI-AMERICAN BAGGAGE

That would be a great idea.........
53 posted on 08/03/2007 3:39:15 PM PDT by knyteflyte3 (Freedom is not for FREE)
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To: Convert from ECUSA

We’ll need a reelection schedule, so we can concentrate our efforts in the most effective way, to begin with, in order. :’)


54 posted on 08/03/2007 5:43:53 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Thursday, August 2, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: schu
This came as an email from a friend.

http://www.pdbmagazine.com/fusetalk/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=56&threadid=16233

55 posted on 08/04/2007 4:24:19 AM PDT by GFritsch ('All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved'." -)
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To: GFritsch
How much of this 'trickle down' ever get to the unemployed and minorities in our county?

The magic words - unemployed people don't share in the wealth. So, maybe, Congress compassionates should focus on putting the unemployed to work. And those people don't need a lot of skills to function; people who don't even speak English can easily find jobs in construction, hospitality, etc. Why can't natives do the same?

56 posted on 08/04/2007 4:29:52 AM PDT by Bernard (The Fairness Doctrine should be applied to people who follow the rules to come to America legally)
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