Posted on 08/03/2007 11:29:34 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake
Yes it is. Oddly enough(or not), I had never given any thought to how the Pleistocene/Holocene event(whatever it was) may have effected our ancestors. And we think WE live in interesting times!!!
Pleostocene, you say?
Nah, you don't want to go there.
Late Pleostocene Human Population Bottlenecks. . . (Toba)
"Genetic evidence suggests that Human population size fell to about 10,000 adults between 50 and 100 thousand years ago"
I wasn’t going to bring up the religion end of things. It’s a pretty touchy subject with some value on both sides IMO. I do agree this global warming thing is devistating to their credibility though.
In reality it’s not really a scientific theory to a certain extent. I think they know they are exploiting it for political gain. It’s more a wedge issue than anything.
It’s gotten so that I can hardly watch any scientific presentation on television. They weasle in the global warming thing and the idea that nature is going to disintigrate tomorrow over and over. It’s actually rather comical, but I do tire of it. “Oh brother, here we go again.” It’s just so lame.
The ozone hole is another. When it expands a bit they bitch and moan and when it closes up a bit they remain silent until the next expansion. Don’t they think people catch on to this?
Take care. Thanks for the comments.
LOL
Interestingly enough, most of what I've read place the P/H boundary at roughly the end of the last ice age ~10,000 years ago -- give or take.
The Toba eruption obviously created challenges for Man and beast alike, maybe moreso than the P/H event, but the PTB chose a later date for whatever reasons.
BTW, the "Pleostocene" threw me for a while til I discovered it was a typo from YOUR article -- FWIW.
I've always had problems with the way these periods are named. I went to some effort once to try and learn the exact dates of different periods until I realized (for example) that the Neolithic occurred at different times in different parts of the world. I think that's stupid.
Well now, I feel like I'm ahead of the game -- I never even tried. Figgered it was a lost cause since by the time I became interested in such things, my ROM was full, and RAM was getting harder and harder to access anyway.
I crack myself up sometimes ;^)
Probably so. There are any number here who are avid bookworms.
So, what's your best estimate of when "The Peopling of the Americas" began? AND, where do you believe they came from? Do you believe there was a single seed group that gave rise to what we see today? Or were there waves of groups over time? Were earlier groups displaced or destroyed by later arrivals?
Your thoughts might be enlightening.
BTW, welcome to FreeRepublic.
Think of them as cultural levels rather than time periods.
There are still some "lost tribes" living a true stone age existence.
Showing the earth from space, I can’t even see Los Angeles without magnification. Imagine seeing a single car or even millions of them. Then consider how small that speck is compared with the whole planet. And then realize that 75% of the planet is water.
The leftists have a globe that shows the oceans being about 10% of the earth’s surface. It also shows uninhabited lands as about 10% of the earth’s surface. The remainder is shown as one massive city that covers 80% of the planet spewing smoke in one giant column to the border of space. And of course, every person on the planet has five cars two trucks, one semi and at least one coal fueled power plant each of which are spewing at full capacity 24/7/365.
To my way of thinking it’s patently absurd to think we’re destroying the planet. Do I think it’s a wise idea to wean ourselves off certain negative practices? We’ll sure academically. Is there a crisis here? Well yes.
There is a very real danger that political groups will exploit a conversation topic into a fascist movement based on fear.
We already see that road development is frozen. Mass transit is the only thing the government will allow, for the most part. New tolls and raised fees are trying to move us out of our vehicles. Land is being wrapped up in tight little packages by conservancy groups too numerous to count. Cement is now becoming known as evil, joining oil and coal. River power production is evil. Even wind turbines kill those cute little birds...
I could go on, but I think just about everyone is beginning to see what’s just over the horizon, and I don’t think it’s going to be productive. There needs to be some major pushback if we’re going to put the fascists back in their cage.
Agreed. They seemed to have migrated to environmental movements after the collapse of the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe satellites.
To restrict carbon outputs along the lines Algore seems to be advocating now, well beyond Kyoto's limits, would require draconian restrictions and dictatorial powers. Some people seem to think that would be OK, so long as it's all in the name of being "green." Sigh.
I haven’t budged from where I left off over a month ago. I think there have been at least three (somewhat) distinct models from some of the same lines of evidence.
I agree. From my vantage point the mindset today seems to be, “I’ll stand back and not be critical of the greenies, after all it’s their pet topic and they must be experts on the subject.” In reality, they’re little more than psycho nut-jobs. When ordinary folks turn over control to the likes of these fools, look out.
I talk to people about this when the topic comes up, and hardly anybody is asking questions these days. They swallowed the ‘global warming is reality line’ and haven’t realized that is may be 100% unrelated to anything we are doing. It may be a problem cause solely by solar winds. We just don’t know. We may be fixing something that is completely out of our control.
I’d sure hate to see us relinquish our rights on that alter.
As I recall, Firestone had offered up the theory the earth was hit with a mega cosmic wave(gamma rays, x-rays, whatever) along about the same time period being discussed. Are you aware of any changes in his position? Seems he caught a good deal of flak over it.
The thing I wonder about is, what ever happened to our will to resist. Collectively that is. I'm led to believe trying to rally conservatives together in a common cause is much like herding cats. Seems conservatives are easily divided because of our basic independent nature. Leftists on the other hand seem to line up behind the latest fad, or feel-good cause. Useful idiots for the most part, but how do we resist their almost monolithic front?
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Leftists are collectivists, joiners, etc. They identify with groups, and seem to treat everyone as part of one or more groups.
Conservatives are surly curmudgeons who prefer to be left alone. We treat people as individuals, and make herds of cats look organized.
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