Mitt unplugged

Politico ^ | August 04, 2007 | Jonathan Martin

[mmanager]

Mitt Romney engaged in a heated discussion about his Mormon faith with a prominent Des Moines talk show host off the air on Thursday morning. The contentious back-and-forth between Romney and WHO's Jan Mickelson began on the air (video link courtesy Breitbart.tv) when the former governor appeared on the popular program that has become a regular stop for GOP presidential hopefuls. But the conversation spilled over to a commercial break and went on after the program ended, where a visibly annoyed Romney spoke in much greater detail about his church's doctrines than he is comfortable doing so in public.

The footage was captured by the station's in-studio camera and posted on its website. But Romney, who is careful to portray a sunny and upbeat public image, clearly did not know he was being recorded. The candidate reveals a private side that is at turns cutting, combative and sarcastic, but most of all agitated at being forced to defend what he and his church stand for.

[Grunthor]

Wasn’t talking about the posts, talking about the article.

[Grunthor]

“You are being bullied”

You can only be bullied if you allow yourself to be. I try to keep my posts and questions above board and even attempt to respond to rude people as nicely as possible.

I don’t always succeed.

[Grunthor]

“Maybe because he’s running for President of the US, not bishop of his Church.”

I bet even that cross-dresser from New York would be willing to talk about it’s religion as opposed to its pro-abortion stance.

And I bet Rudy would too.

[sevenbak]

K, here’s this for starters. I hope you take the time to read the references...

Isa. 2: 2 (Micah 4: 2; 2 Ne. 12: 12) Lord’s house shall be established in the top of the mountains.
Isa. 11: 11 (2 Ne. 21: 11) Lord shall set his hand . . . to recover the remnant of his people.
Isa. 29: 14 (1 Ne. 14: 7; 1 Ne. 22: 8; 2 Ne. 27: 26; 2 Ne. 29: 1; 3 Ne. 29: 1; D&C 4: 1) I will proceed to do a marvellous work.
Jer. 31: 31 will make a new covenant with the house of Israel.
Ezek. 37: 26 it shall be an everlasting covenant.
Dan. 2: 44 set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed.
Joel 2: 28 afterward, that I will pour out my spirit.
Amos 3: 7 revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.
Mal. 3: 1 (3 Ne. 24: 1) send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me.
Mal. 4: 6 (3 Ne. 25: 6) turn the heart of the fathers to the children.
Matt. 17: 11 (Mark 9: 12; D&C 77: 14) Elias . . . come, and restore all things.
Matt. 24: 14 gospel of the kingdom shall be preached.
Acts 3: 21 (D&C 27: 6) times of restitution of all things.
Rom. 11: 25 blindness . . . until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Eph. 1: 10 in the dispensation of the fulness of times . . . gather together in one all things.
Rev. 11: 3 (D&C 77: 15) two witnesses, and they shall prophesy.
Rev. 14: 6 I saw another angel . . . having the everlasting gospel.

[sevenbak]

And read this one too, it’s too long to spam this post with, but here is the link, very informative.

http://www.lds.org/portal/site/LDSOrg/menuitem.b12f9d18fae655bb69095bd3e44916a0/?vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&locale=0&sourceId=d48b27cd3f37b010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&hideNav=1

[MHGinTN]

Typical apologist tactic, spam the thread when something is offered for evaluation. The false prophecies of Smithism do not stand on their own being revealed as total fabrications by Smith rather than revelations from God, so you apologists immediately flood the thread with as much diversion from the reality of Smith's fabrications as you can drag and paste from your Momronism ammunition sites. You are the birds of the air who swoop down to devour the good seed so it cannot take root. Here again is the LDS site where just looking at the 800 plus words added to Genesis Chapter 50 will inform a reader just how false Smithism is ... adding so many words not there in the Hebrew is demonic in brilliance, and typical of Mormonism and its foundations:

http://scriptures.lds.org/en/jst/contents

[sevenbak]

Spam the thread? I sent a link, did you read it at all??? The bible is full of prophesies about the restoration of the fullness of times and these last days. Read it or not, I don’t care. You post ad nauseum repeated JS translations, many many times over, to the point of exasperation, but when I post biblical references with no translation, and then post a simple link to a more though treatise, you call it spam!!

ROTFLOL!!

Perhaps you should remove the spam from your own eye first? Good day to you MHGinTN

[MHGinTN]

The laugh of the fool echoes in his heart, causing him to think he is someone of significance because of the sound he hears. Let him who has ears to hear understand what the Spirit speaks.

[claudiustg]

Article Six of the United States Constitution

All Debts contracted and Engagements entered into, before the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.
The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

[sevenbak]

Be careful MHGinTN, you start throwing out quotes, and they might come back to haunt you.

Good day.

Matthew 5: 22 ...whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

[Enosh]

"What is there to hide? Please tell."

John 3:21

Oh, well. So much for His endorsement.

[greyfoxx39]

Post No.48 by claudiustg: I agree. It is one of the saddest threads I've ever seen -- full of religious bigotry and inexplicable hatred. These kinds of threads are an embarrassment to FR.

There is no bigot like a "Christian" bigot. You need to grow up and learn some respect for your betters. hinckley buzzard, Post No. 150

Your vile attacks grow even more vile. If you are representative of the Christian faith, I'm not sure why we Mormons are so quick to defend our association with the term Christian. Post no. 92 by Spiff

This is the giant cow pie that the anti-Mormon bigots always hide behind when called on their constant bigotry in the Mitt Romney threads." "You're a throw back to the times when Mormon women were raped, children were beaten, and the men were killed by mobs." Post No. 94 by Spiff

I knew there were some number anti-Mormon religious bigots on this site, but I didn’t realize that Free Republic apparently condones their behavior until this evening. I will have to rethink my commitment here. I do not want to be associated with anything like this. Post 118 by claudiustg

I’m not sure that I can continue donating to a website that condones this kind of religious intolerance and harassment. Post No. 62 by Spiff

Calls by Spiff for censorship of the thread, suggestions that donations will be cut off, and of course the usual hateful name-calling.

[sevenbak]

Everyone needs to read the blog on politico.com on this video. Mitt is coming across as the clear winner, and changing peoples mind with this. Sure there are the usual Anti Mormon tromping going on, but clear thinking people in this country get it!!

http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0807/Mitt_unplugged.html

[Saundra Duffy]

“Why would one be agitated to comment on what his church stands for?”

Because there’s so much misinformation and ignorance running rampant out there when it comes to the LDS Church. (Duh.)

[Saundra Duffy]

Jesus Christ is my Savior, Redeemer and personal Friend. I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. I am grateful to Heavenly Father for sending His Son to die for me to save me from my sins. The Holy Ghost tells me it’s true.

I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and I wish people would stop telling lies about my faith and my candidate.

[MHGinTN]

Is it a lie to post LDS links to the coman prophet's own rewriting of the Bible? ... http://scriptures.lds.org/en/jst/contents

[Enosh]

"Calls by Spiff for censorship of the thread, suggestions that donations will be cut off..."

Just think of it as a FRatwā. ;)

[Saundra Duffy]

Wow! I watched the entire video and I have never been more proud of Mitt Romney. He made mincemeat out of that radio talk show guy. Mincemeat. It was creepy that they videotaped Mitt without his knowledge but the outcome is definitely PRO MITT.

Fabulous. Thanks for posting it even though your intention was apparently to put Mitt down. I suppose you think not too many people will actually take the time to watch the video.

Any fair minded person who watches the video in its entirety will see that Mitt Romney handled himself spectacularly. I am so proud.

Go, Mitt!!!

[Enosh]

"Because there’s so much misinformation and ignorance running rampant out there..."

Catholics are cannibals, Baptists handle snakes, etc, etc, etc. All easily disproven.

On the other hand, the LDS funkiness is right there in your doctrine.

[MHGinTN]

What 'latter day conman' has authority to rewrite the Bible, adding thousands of words that are not in the Hebrew so he can write in false prophesies of his 'coming in these latter days'? By his own authority, Joe Smith claimed the right, through fabricated visions or visions from a satanic source!

Smith established a religion which had as its base premise, that since the death of the last Apostle, ONLY through Mormon baptism or proxy baptism for the long dead can those who confess or confessed Jesus as Lord be Saved! Such a gross heresy must be opposed. That some cannot see it is heresy is telling of their lacking spiritual discernment.

And now we have a man running for President who believes these heresies. He is a family man, a clean man, unlike sinkEmperor, but he is no less lost to God's counsel. Should America embrace such a man because he is a clean man yet holds to gross heresies? In clinton's degeneracy we had clear indication that such a man should not be embraced, and we are still reaping the fruit of that man ruling this nation.

That is the question folks don't want to ask, Saundra, should we embrace a clean man who holds strong heresies as truth? And what will be the fruit we endure following such an man's rule? Sweetness and light do not issue from gross heresies, Saundra, despite how clean looking is Mitt the Mormon.