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Barry Bonds hit 755th home run tying hank Aaron
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Posted on 08/04/2007 7:48:45 PM PDT by navysealdad

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To: navysealdad

You can see that corruption in sports is no different from corruption in politics - as long as he’s our guy, it’s all A-OK. Hand to eye coordination, yeah, baby!


61 posted on 08/04/2007 8:31:25 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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To: Reagan Man

Until the end of the 2002 season, steroids were not tested for or subject to punishment under the rules of Major League Baseball or the Basic Agreement between the league and the Major League Baseball Players’ Association. He has never tested postive for steroids.....


62 posted on 08/04/2007 8:33:07 PM PDT by navysealdad
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To: wolfinator

DITTO!! There is nothing that anyone can take for performance enhancement (even if it is ever proven that that is what happened) which makes it easier to get the head of the bat on the ball just right to clear the yard.


63 posted on 08/04/2007 8:34:08 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Division Soldier fighting terrorists in the Triangle of Death)
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To: InvisibleChurch
Thank you. Whose record did Roger Break?.....(((just kidding)))

Harry Stovey, 111 :)

64 posted on 08/04/2007 8:34:41 PM PDT by kalt
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To: navysealdad

Hey Barry, here is what a real home run looks like!

Mickey Mantle
734 feet (5/22/63, Yankee Stadium Façade* – Pitcher: Bill Fischer, Kansas City Athletics – Left-handed)

Mickey said that the “hardest ball I ever hit” came in the 11th inning on May 22, 1963 at Yankee Stadium. Leading off in the bottom of the 11th, with the score tied 7-7, A’s pitcher Bill Fischer tried to blow a fastball past Mickey.

Bad idea. Mickey stepped into it and, with perfect timing, met the ball with the sweet spot of his bat, walloping it with everything he had. The sound of the bat colliding with the ball was likened to a cannon shot. The players on both benches jumped to their feet. Yogi Berra shouted, “That’s it!” The ball rose in a majestic laser-like drive, rocketing into the night toward the farthest confines of Yankee Stadium. The question was never whether it was a home run or not. The question was whether this was going to be the first ball to be hit out of Yankee Stadium.

That it had the height and distance was obvious. But would it clear the façade, the decoration on the front side of the roof above the third deck in rightfield? “I usually didn’t care how far the ball went so long as it was a home run. But this time I thought, ‘This ball could go out of Yankee Stadium!’”

Just as the ball was about to leave the park, it struck the façade mere inches from the top with such ferocity that it bounced all the way back to the infield. That it won the game was an afterthought. Mickey just missed making history. It was the closest a ball has ever come to going out of Yankee Stadium in a regular season game.**

The question then became “How far would the ball have gone had the façade not prevented it from leaving the park?” Using geometry, it is possible to calculate the distance with some accuracy. The principle variable is how high the ball would have gone. If we assume the ball was at its apex at the point where it struck the façade, using the Pythagorean Theorem (”In a right triangle, the square of the hypotenuse is equal to the sum of the squares of the other two sides”) we can determine the distance from home plate to the point where the ball struck the façade. Then we can use calculus to calculate that the distance the ball would have traveled would have been 636 feet. However, there are a number of undetermined factors: wind velocity, spin on the ball, the speed of the pitch Mickey hit, and others. (For a more complete explanation of the calculations and complete description of this and other Mantle homers, see Explosion! by Mark Gallagher. This book is the definitive book on Mantle’s homers. Unfortunately, it is out of print. It may be available at your local library.)

So how do we get 734 feet? In the example above, we assumed that the ball was at its apex when it struck the façade. However, observers were unanimous in their opinion that the ball was still rising when it hit the façade. How do we determine how high the ball would have gone? In fact, we cannot. From this point forward all numbers become guesses, estimates of how high we think the ball might have gone. A conservative estimate would be 20 feet. Those 20 feet make a major difference. They cause our calculation to go up almost 100 feet, to the 734 foot number listed above. Is 20 feet a fair estimate? Those present when the ball was hit feel that it would have gone at least that much higher, and many feel that the 20 foot number is far too low. It is all just a guess.

This is a good example of what can happen with estimates, especially computer estimates that determine the length of home runs now. Most of the home run distance numbers used today are the result of computer estimates of how far the ball would have traveled without obstruction. (One of these programs gave the 734 foot number listed.) Whether or not this is a fair number is a matter of opinion. However, if the distance of this home run is disputed, then the distance of many of the home runs hit by today’s players must be questioned. While the software used for home run distances has greatly improved, there remain questions as to its accuracy. It is important to note that many of Mickey’s home runs were measured to the point they actually landed, leaving no question about the accuracy of the distance reported.

* The façade was the decorative facing along the roof of the old Yankee Stadium. Mickey hit the façade in regular-season games at least three times during his career: May 5, 1956 off Moe Burtschy, May 20, 1956 off Pedro Ramos, and May 22, 1963 off Bill Fischer.

** Legend has it that Mickey hit balls completely out of Yankee Stadium up to three times during batting practices. Supposedly Mickey did it twice left-handed and once right-handed. Witnesses of these incredible feats include fans, stadium vendors, teammates and opposing players.

10 of the Mick’s longest with diagrams:

http://www.themick.com/10homers.html


65 posted on 08/04/2007 8:34:57 PM PDT by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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To: SmoothTalker
Got that right!

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66 posted on 08/04/2007 8:36:53 PM PDT by Sue Perkick (And I hope that what I’ve done here today doesn’t force you to have a negative opinion of me….)
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To: RGMills

People who bash Barry do so for many reasons, but not because he can go yard. Barry’s been the target of criticism for years before this cloud of steroid abuse came up. No proof, mind you, just a cloud. But those who love to hate this man will use it to further that hate. Dispicable in my opinion.


67 posted on 08/04/2007 8:37:58 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Division Soldier fighting terrorists in the Triangle of Death)
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To: navysealdad

Ho hum....


68 posted on 08/04/2007 8:38:25 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: RGMills
You're trying to reason with emoters. Won't work. Sort of like trying to convince DUers that MIHOP isn't a legitimate point of view...

Congratulations to Barry Bonds - the greatest baseball player since Wille Mays.

69 posted on 08/04/2007 8:38:52 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Petronski

70 posted on 08/04/2007 8:38:52 PM PDT by Petronski (Just say no to Rudy McRomney.)
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To: RGMills
If steroids don't enhance a players God given abilities, then why has MLBB outlawed their use? I'll tell ya why. Steroids do contribute to enhancing a ballplayers natural abilities.

>>>>>Look at his numbers, only his 2001 season when he broke McGwire’s record is there an unusual number of homeruns.

That isn't the point. If you loook at Bonds HR figures from 2000-2004, you'll immediately notice that he had five straight years of 40+ HR`s. A feat he never accomplished before. During a period in a players life, when his longball numbers are usually headed in the opposite direction. Same goes for his batting average. Also, during that time frame, Bonds walks are way up and his strikeouts are down considerably for someone his age.

Those stats of Bonds from 200-2004, go well beyond natural ability or God given talents for someone his age.

71 posted on 08/04/2007 8:39:09 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: kalt

thankx!


72 posted on 08/04/2007 8:40:10 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (CLYBURN: Well, that would be a real big problem for us, no question about that.)
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To: navysealdad
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5.56mm

73 posted on 08/04/2007 8:40:11 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: marshmallow
Bonds was booed as he headed to left field at the end of the inning.

Funny, I heard more cheers than boos.

74 posted on 08/04/2007 8:40:35 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Division Soldier fighting terrorists in the Triangle of Death)
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The statistical transformation of Barry Bonds
75 posted on 08/04/2007 8:42:11 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: hole_n_one

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76 posted on 08/04/2007 8:42:43 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The Democrat Party: "Everyone is equal, but some are more equal than others.")
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To: wolfinator

I just wish he would go.

It’s not that he’s more disgraceful than the others that did it. It’s not that he wouldn’t have hit almost as many home runs if he didn’t juice up. It’s just that he’s the figurehead for a baseball era that is just as, if not more of an embarrassment than the Black Sox.

He sickens me. So does McGwire, Sosa, Giambi, etc. and all of the bums who have turned a great sport into a sickly crippled shell of itself.


77 posted on 08/04/2007 8:45:43 PM PDT by philsoc
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To: SoldierDad

“DITTO!! There is nothing that anyone can take for performance enhancement (even if it is ever proven that that is what happened) which makes it easier to get the head of the bat on the ball just right to clear the yard.”

It is muscles creating power which increases bat speed. That pitch he creamed for 755 he swung late on and still sent it over the opposite wall.

What steroids did was give players like Bonds and McGuire the ability to swing at a bad pitch and get so much power in it the ball flies.


78 posted on 08/04/2007 8:46:56 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The Democrat Party: "Everyone is equal, but some are more equal than others.")
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To: navysealdad
Steroids are banned from MLBB today. And if you have a good Doc, you can beat any system. Just ask Jose Canseco, Rafael Palmero, Sammy Sosa and Mark McGuire.

Bobby Bonds is turning over in his grave at the embarrassment his son has brought to MLBB.

79 posted on 08/04/2007 8:47:18 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: navysealdad

He has though admitted to using a topical ointment that contained steroids. Of course he claimed that he thought it was vitamin E.


80 posted on 08/04/2007 8:47:49 PM PDT by Round 9
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