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House approves foreign wiretap bill (227-183 vote)
AP on Yahoo ^ | 8/4/07 | Charles Babington - ap

Posted on 08/04/2007 8:35:10 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON - The House handed President Bush a victory Saturday, voting to expand the government's abilities to eavesdrop without warrants on foreign suspects whose communications pass through the United States.

The 227-183 vote, which followed the Senate's approval Friday, sends the bill to Bush for his signature. He had urged Congress to approve it, saying Saturday, "Protecting America is our most solemn obligation."

The administration said the measure is needed to speed the National Security Agency's ability to intercept phone calls, e-mails and other communications involving foreign nationals "reasonably believed to be outside the United States." Civil liberties groups and many Democrats said it goes too far, possibly enabling the government to wiretap U.S. residents communicating with overseas parties without adequate oversight from courts or Congress.

The bill updates the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, known as FISA. It gives the government leeway to intercept, without warrants, communications between foreigners that are routed through equipment in United States, provided that "foreign intelligence information" is at stake. Bush describes the effort as an anti-terrorist program, but the bill is not limited to terror suspects and could have wider applications, some lawmakers said.

The government long has had substantial powers to intercept purely foreign communications that don't touch U.S. soil.

If a U.S. resident becomes the chief target of surveillance, the government would have to obtain a warrant from the special FISA court.

Congressional Democrats won a few concessions in negotiations earlier in the week. New wiretaps must be approved by the director of national intelligence and the attorney general, not just the attorney general. Congress has battled with Attorney General Alberto Gonzales on several issues, and some Democrats have accused him of perjury.

The new law also will expire in six months unless Congress renews it. The administration wanted the changes to be permanent.

Many congressional Democrats wanted tighter restrictions on government surveillance, but yielded in the face of Bush's veto threats and the impending August recess.

"This bill would grant the attorney general the ability to wiretap anybody, any place, any time without court review, without any checks and balances," said Rep. Zoe Lofgren, D-Calif., during the debate preceding the vote. "I think this unwarranted, unprecedented measure would simply eviscerate the 4th Amendment," which prohibits unreasonable searches and seizures.

Republicans disputed her description. "It does nothing to tear up the Constitution," said Rep. Dan Lungren, R-Calif.

If an American's communications are swept up in surveillance of a foreigner, he said, "we go through a process called minimization" and get rid of the records unless there is reason to suspect the American is a threat.

The administration began pressing for changes to the law after a recent ruling by the FISA court. That decision barred the government from eavesdropping without warrants on foreign suspects whose messages were being routed through U.S. communications carriers, including Internet sites.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 110th; approves; bigbrother; congress; eavesdropping; fisa; foreign; govwatch; house; privacy; surveillance; wiretap
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To: lonevoice

Good news!


61 posted on 08/05/2007 7:12:04 PM PDT by Pride in the USA
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To: lonevoice
In 6 months when this comes up again, maybe he can threaten the DIMs with eliminating desserts in the congressional cafeteria.

Looks like Murtha already needs to push his fat butt away from the pie plate.
62 posted on 08/06/2007 4:23:00 AM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: wpa_mikeb
"The DUmmies are in total meltdown."


63 posted on 08/06/2007 8:02:04 AM PDT by avacado
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To: Elsiejay

Well said


64 posted on 08/06/2007 9:30:46 AM PDT by TeleStraightShooter (The Right To Take Life is NOT a Constitutional "Liberty" protected by the 14th Amendment)
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To: vbmoneyspender
Wow. The Democrats did the right thing. Maybe they actually do have an instinct for self-preservation.

Let me see.

186 Republicans and 41 Democrats voted for this while 181 Democrats and 2 Republicans voted against it but "the democrats did the right thing".

Yeah! I get it! NOT!

65 posted on 08/06/2007 9:44:57 AM PDT by Bigun (IRS sucks @getridof it.com)
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To: Bigun

Hey genius, the Democrats could have stopped the bill cold by refusing to bring it up for a vote. Aside from that, there are other things they could have done to kill the bill, but they didn’t.


66 posted on 08/06/2007 10:08:27 AM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: vbmoneyspender
..there are other things they could have done to kill the bill, but they didn’t.

True, the cost of blocking it was too high for them though - stay in DC in Aug.

Lol

67 posted on 08/06/2007 11:46:39 AM PDT by TeleStraightShooter (The Right To Take Life is NOT a Constitutional "Liberty" protected by the 14th Amendment)
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To: NormsRevenge

After a lingering illness spanning over the past half-century the United States Constitution quietly passed away on Sunday, August fifth of 2007.

It was surrounded by would-be tyrants, its friends and defenders having passed long before it.


68 posted on 08/06/2007 6:56:31 PM PDT by Natchez Hawk (United States Constitution (1787-2007) RIP)
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To: NormsRevenge

I know I’m in the minority here, but I don’t like this.

Remember, all the power in the Patriot Act’s and such, will soon be in the hands of a Dem.


69 posted on 08/06/2007 8:37:29 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: vbmoneyspender
Wow. The Democrats did the right thing. Maybe they actually do have an instinct for self-preservation.

Naw, they're just trying to P-O Cindy Sheehan and the KOS people, by showing them who's the boss.

70 posted on 08/08/2007 1:06:53 PM PDT by pray4liberty (Watch and pray.)
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To: NormsRevenge

hmmm, so each time my uncle in Canada calls and asks me if I bought a machine gun yet, the call is recorded.. LOL


71 posted on 08/10/2007 2:19:29 PM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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