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War Could Cost $1 Trillion - Budget office sees effect on taxpayers for decade
Boston Globe ^ | 5/1/07

Posted on 08/05/2007 11:27:15 PM PDT by John Farson

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To: Jeff Chandler

BUMP!


21 posted on 08/06/2007 12:09:20 AM PDT by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: LeoWindhorse
We should invade and take it all .

Yeah, that's the spirit. Don't hold back. Tell us what you really think.

Uhhh . . out of curiousity, how much money -- er, American currency -- would you hope to confiscate from the various nations now holding it?

And, given the declining value of the dollar vs. other currencies, would you expect adding those confiscated bills (I'm using this term figuratively, as we both know most of the dollars exist only as bookkeeping entries in a computer somewhere) to the domestic money supply would make the dollar stronger maybe? Like when all those counterfeit yen we sent to Japan during WWII helped Japan balance their international trade?

Just curious.

22 posted on 08/06/2007 12:13:09 AM PDT by logician2u
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To: MEG33

Didn’t even notice :)


23 posted on 08/06/2007 12:13:23 AM PDT by Porterville (I'm an American. If you hate Americans, I hope our enemies destroy you. I will pray for my soul.)
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To: SoCalPol
<"enjoy having Hillary or Obama as their President, they are all the same as L Ron Paul."

I disagree. I'm no RP expert on his policy, but from my distanced viewing, Obama and Hillary are elitist and would have an invertionalist FP, while Ron Paul is more isolationist.

24 posted on 08/06/2007 12:13:30 AM PDT by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: IslandJeff

There is truth to that IJ


25 posted on 08/06/2007 12:14:40 AM PDT by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: SoCalPol
I’m coining new terms now...I meant interventalist.
26 posted on 08/06/2007 12:16:10 AM PDT by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: SoCalPol

But don’t worry, it’s all “for the Common Good”.

And they get away with all this crap...

Here are a few agencies, for example - none of which were prescribed in the Constitution. I think most of the Paulettes might even agree with keeping the Department of War/Defense...

HUD, NASA, Education, State, FDA, Agriculture, Parks/Interior...

Feel free to pile on!


27 posted on 08/06/2007 12:20:05 AM PDT by IslandJeff (Jeremiah 2:14-22)
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To: endthematrix

R. Paul supporters I have spoken to face to face also believe the planes that went into the WTC were remote control and other wacko beliefs.
L Ron Paul is totally unstable


28 posted on 08/06/2007 12:21:47 AM PDT by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: Porterville; MEG33; IslandJeff
Sorry to disappoint, but I'm neither college educated nor an appliance repairman.

I do take umbrage at the hillbilly comment, though. Some of my best friends are (or were) hillbillies.

My apologies to Porterville for correcting his grammar and spelling. It's not really that bad. It would not require even a billion well-spent dollars to fix, as long as the government schools weren't given the responsibility.

However, a larger challenge lies ahead if America is to ever catch up with the rest of the civilized world in the fine art of argumentation.

Americans must, simply must outgrow the childish habit of using a false dichotomy to try to prove a point. You know what this is from the first grade: Would you rather be a duck or a rabbit? Are you a bully or a wimp? Either pay me now or pay me later.

Porterville's choice is to spend a trillion dollars on one war in Iraq to save our country "3 or 4 more trillion to terrorist."

That, my FRiends, is a false dichotomy. It's not an either/or. It's not a binary choice. There are other options, and most every thinking person recognizes that.

You all will recall President George W Bush's saying shortly after the attacks of 9/11/2001, "Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists."

Oh?

Does that mean anyone who opposes Bush's domestic surveillance programs, his undeclared war against Iraq, his imprisonment of American and foreign terrorism suspects without charges, or his administration's bungled immigration proposals is siding with the terrorists?

Not if this is still a free country. Not if Americans value their political independence. Not if we recognize and refuse to accept false dichotomies.

29 posted on 08/06/2007 12:55:43 AM PDT by logician2u
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To: John Farson

I didn’t see how much it would cost to lose this war.

Oh yeah, everything.


30 posted on 08/06/2007 12:59:32 AM PDT by Bodhi1 (Visit my blog at www.allamericanblogger.com)
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To: SoCalPol
You've been posting this anecdotal evidence of Dr. Paul's (or, rather, his supporters') mental incompetence for days now.

It's not gaining traction.

Perhaps you can dig out another baseless charge from Murray's bag of dirty tricks?

A little variety is always welcome.

31 posted on 08/06/2007 1:00:54 AM PDT by logician2u
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To: SoCalPol; Porterville
Oh, one more thing.

Ask Porterville for some spelling tips.

It'll be win-win for you both.

32 posted on 08/06/2007 1:03:23 AM PDT by logician2u
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To: logician2u
Does that mean anyone who opposes Bush's domestic surveillance programs, his undeclared war against Iraq, his imprisonment of American and foreign terrorism suspects without charges, or his administration's bungled immigration proposals is siding with the terrorists?

Without a nation to defend, you likely would not be able to bring up such salient points. What "domestic surveillance programs" are you speaking of? Wiretapping phone calls to the Middle East?

Your world is, no doubt, nicely aligned along clear 'logical' lines. The one the rest of us live in isn't.

33 posted on 08/06/2007 1:04:17 AM PDT by IslandJeff (Jeremiah 2:14-22)
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To: IslandJeff; logician2u

Oops. Forgive my “false dichotomy” - the War on Terror is nothing but an exercise in abstract reasoning. They wish no ill upon us.

My false dichotomy has resulted in thousands dead in New York City. These damned spurious flaws in my reasoning...what am I to do?


34 posted on 08/06/2007 1:12:23 AM PDT by IslandJeff (Jeremiah 2:14-22)
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To: John Farson

Why don’t we cut benefits to all of the illegals and drug addled welfare recipients; then we could pay for this war. Oh yes, make the Congress critters pay us back what they stolen from us.


35 posted on 08/06/2007 1:14:14 AM PDT by freekitty
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To: logician2u

Your hautiness is showing....

You are not convincing me of anything except your own case of arrogance and bad manners..


36 posted on 08/06/2007 1:16:01 AM PDT by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: logician2u
However, a larger challenge lies ahead if America is to ever catch up with the rest of the civilized world in the fine art of argumentation.

Just re-read this. You mean such fine dialectical reasoning as World War One?

37 posted on 08/06/2007 1:19:48 AM PDT by IslandJeff (Jeremiah 2:14-22)
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To: MEG33
Excuse my typo!, Your Haughtiness..
38 posted on 08/06/2007 1:20:59 AM PDT by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: MEG33

Your typo dismisses the substance of your argument.

Take a knee!

[Yawn]


39 posted on 08/06/2007 1:23:38 AM PDT by IslandJeff (Jeremiah 2:14-22)
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To: JasonC
Thomas Jefferson and the Barbary Pirates
40 posted on 08/06/2007 1:24:21 AM PDT by Stallone (Free Republic - The largest collection of volunteer Freedom Fighters the world has ever known)
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