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What is it about the word "no" that the Senator doesn't understand? He is stuck on the same stupid he was stuck on the month of July. He is telling us that he is going to try and try again to impose amnesty on us, until he gets his way, despite the wishes of the American people. We have been warned.
1 posted on 08/06/2007 6:12:24 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
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Pray for America and its helpless citizens and their children, who remain at risk
from murder, rape, manslaughter, and terror, due to the utter incompetence of a traitorous Congress.


2 posted on 08/06/2007 6:15:03 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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The main objective in legalizing the 12 million was to eliminate their fugitive status, allowing them to live in the United States without fear of being detected and deported or being abused by unscrupulous employers...

How can you be this dumb and still have the ability to fog a mirror? What you have is 12 million people who entered this country illegally and broke the law. They have no rights in this country, and surely have no claim to any of the benefits extended to its citizens. They ARE fugitives, you idiot! They broke the law...that's why they are called illegals. I really don't care how long they've managed to escape the law, they do not belong here and they should be sent back as they are discovered.

4 posted on 08/06/2007 6:19:33 AM PDT by econjack
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Now we see why Pres. Bush campaigned for this RINO, at the expense of Toomey, a conservative. Specter is on the President’s team.


5 posted on 08/06/2007 6:19:33 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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Giving these people green-card status leaves open the opportunity for them to return to their native lands and seek citizenship through regular channels.

People with green cards qualify for all sorts of government benefits.

Mayor Barletta for PA Senator!

6 posted on 08/06/2007 6:27:21 AM PDT by freespirited (Thank you for not lying about Republicans.)
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We need to be saved from the Senator Arlen Specters.


7 posted on 08/06/2007 6:32:30 AM PDT by apocalypto
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U.S. Congress = America’s most entrenched “Criminal Class!!!”


8 posted on 08/06/2007 6:35:14 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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Too bad our leaders do not want to just enforce our existing laws. It is an outrage and I will never forgive them for it.

I like what Ike did about the illegals, and that should and could be done again.

9 posted on 08/06/2007 6:38:10 AM PDT by Brandie (Fred Thompson/Duncan Hunter in 08')
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arlen, it is legal vs illegal. There is a difference, arlen. If you, arlen, do not understand the difference between legal and illegal arlen, you are unfit to serve. arlen....you are beginning to anger US.


10 posted on 08/06/2007 6:39:07 AM PDT by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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Our nation has been sold out by inept politicians for years. Let’s face it,the illegal problem will never be solved...Millions of them are here to stay.

We are being blind sided by the Third World. Our country is being taken away from us by coniving,mostly liberal, democratic politicians.. It’s all about votes, folks!

Liberal democrats don’t believe in Democracy, Their God is Socialism or worse..Third Worlders want handouts, they want to be controled and taken care of by the Government.They are all gonna vote Democrat,
and suck at the public trough...

Bubba and his Incubus from Hell know this! What we are seeing now is the decline and fall of the Republican Party. The Republicans showed what they are made of by trying to sneak this amnesty bill through...They have no balls anymore and are turning into some kind of hybrid, politicaly correct,species of Democrat....

I’ll go out and vote for them one more time just to keep The Incubus from getting elected, however it will be like shoveling you know what against the tide though...

I feel sorry for all young people who will have to live under thse two dogs, once they get elected again though..


11 posted on 08/06/2007 6:42:37 AM PDT by Old Phone Man (ks)
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The main objective in legalizing the 12 million was to eliminate their fugitive status, allowing them to live in the United States without fear of being detected and deported

Uh, no. It's not. It's getting them back home and making sure they don't come back.
13 posted on 08/06/2007 6:49:04 AM PDT by Old_Mil (Fred Thompson isn't the second coming of Reagan; He's the second coming of Dole.)
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Yet Congress is unlikely to appropriate $3 billion for border security without dealing simultaneously with the illegal immigrants already here.

And why is this? Not that congress shouldn't, let's say, do the WILL OF THE PEOPLE or anything, just throwing it out there.

How SOB arrogant are these jewels in America's House of Lords? I mean....congress...that body of people elected to do OUR bidding, well they're not likely to appropriate money for border security until YOU, you peons of the highest order, agree that we shall grant all the illegals here amnesty.

It is our bidding and WE, the Lords of the Senate, know what is best for you.

I must spit.

16 posted on 08/06/2007 6:58:02 AM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com)
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"It would be refreshing if Congress, and the country, could come together in a bipartisan way to at least partially solve one of the big domestic issues of the day."

Uhh, Arlen - the country - all 300 million of them save the KOS component, the Chamber of Commerce, and the liberal Democrats - have come together in a bipartisan way and don't want amnesty and don't want illegals here, period!

It is only you and a handful of the elite who need to come together and join the American people, not the Beltway insiders and profiteers.

Moron.

20 posted on 08/06/2007 7:18:01 AM PDT by oldbill
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In the third paragraph: "Yet Congress is unlikely to appropriate 3 billion................."

OTOH, if Congress does appropriate 3 billion for enforcement, it will certainly include linking Real ID and employee verification. No ID-No Job. No DNA data-No ID.

21 posted on 08/06/2007 7:18:11 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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U.S. Constitution, Article 4 Section 4:

"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,

and shall protect each of them against Invasion;"


Invasion: \In*va"sion\, n. [L. invasio: cf. F. invasion. See Invade.] [1913 Webster]

1. The act of invading; the act of encroaching upon the rights or possessions of another; encroachment; trespass.

QUISLING: a synonym for traitor, someone who collaborates with the invaders of his country.


23 posted on 08/06/2007 5:48:32 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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What a horrible Senator!


28 posted on 08/06/2007 7:27:21 PM PDT by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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But the important additions on those subjects contained in the bill defeated in June will not be enacted without also dealing with the 12 million-plus undocumented immigrants and the guest worker program...

So the amnesty proponents are not resorting to blackmail.

29 posted on 08/06/2007 7:40:09 PM PDT by curiosity
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Correction, I meant to say, "The amnesty proponents are NOW resorting to blackmail." Sorry for the typo.
30 posted on 08/06/2007 7:42:41 PM PDT by curiosity
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Specter might actually do some good if he can support an enforcement only bill, although of course I don’t trust him (he might sneak amnesty into bills). He was on Lou Dobbs today. “I’m floating an idea. I’m not introducing legislation.” (Not yet):

>>DOBBS: Senator Specter, let me ask you if I may, you heard the people — you’re back in your home state. Y’all heard the American people basically react through their e-mails, phone calls, their messages to you that, you know, they’re not too thrilled with what you folks have done for two years running. Why do you want to resurrect even the effort right now?

SPECTER: Well, because it’s very important. It affects the broken borders. And that’s why I’ve joined with Senator Kyl and other Republicans to put additional Border Patrol, more employer verification with tough penalties. We’ve had a big problem. There are some 1,400 proposals floating around. And some 140 have been passed by the State of Arizona and municipalities. It’s a national issue.

DOBBS: It is a national issue. It’s also an issue of national security. The two issues of border security and illegal immigration crisis are melded in the minds of this president and many in Washington. But most Americans, I think, if you look poll after poll, senator, they’re having a hard time understanding when it’s a matter simply of national security that six years under a Republican Congress, a Republican White House, leading a global war on terror, that our borders have not been secured. That our ports have not been secured.

And there’s a great distrust. I mean, you look at the approval ratings. You hear from your constituents. There’s just a great distrust of this administration, this Congress, whether Democratically led or Republican led, that you all can do anything right.

SPECTER: Well, that distrust is well-founded. But I think that we have finally come up with the money to back up — back up our words. And with respect to the 12 million who are undocumented, I’m floating an idea. I’m not introducing legislation. But floating an idea just to remove the fugitive status, not to deal with citizenship, but just to say that an unscrupulous employer can’t hold the threat of reporting him over his head. And if fugitive status is removed, we can get them to register. Get them to hold a job. Pay back taxes. No citizenship, which is the guts of the amnesty worry.

DOBBS: Senator, I think that there’s no question that’s a marked improvement from a straightforward path as envisioned by Senate Bill 1639. It’s certainly an improvement from that. My question is why is there no empirical discussion of the issues?

I mean, if we could put up something, we hear there’s a labor shortage. The president talks about we can’t have border security without a guest worker program. Has anybody said to the president of the United States, Mr. President, we have nine guest worker programs. Most of them are unlimited in the number of workers who can enter under the quest worker programs, that we bring in over 1,200,000 last year, legal residents. As you suggest you want to with 12 million, whatever the number may be.

What does that effectively buy us in fixing this — this god- awful mess?

SPECTER: Well, Lou, seven Republican senators last week led by Senator Kyl and I joined him, have said that we’ve got to fix the broken borders. We have got to have tough employer verification and that comes first. And after we do that, we’re going to try to establish credibility with the American people.

Look, the American people don’t trust anybody in Washington. And regrettably, they’ve got good basis for doing so. So we have a very heavy burden of proof. And we’re trying to meet it.

DOBBS: And, Senator Specter, I know your motivation, your — your interests are — are absolutely the best of reasons, the best of intentions. The difficulty that I think many Americans have right now is in the legislation that passed last week in the House. They passed the DREAM Legislation. The House of Representatives literally invalidated a 215-213 vote that would have stopped the — through the amendment providing welfare to illegal aliens in this country and watched like a banana republic as the chair, Congressman McNulty (ph) in that instance, flipped it.

I mean, what in the world is going on? Why is there such urgency to represent the interest of illegal aliens in our nation’s capital and not the interests of the American working man and woman? No one is — I mean, no one seems to be talking about the folks who really build this country.

SPECTER: Well, I think it’s wrong to nibble at the edges on a legislation which you have suggested. And that’s why — that’s why the seven of us led by Senator Kyl want to fix the broken border and toughen employer verification to prove that we really mean business. Once we do that to establish credibility, then to come back and deal with the other parts of it.

DOBBS: Senator, do you think there is an appetite in the Senate at this point to resurrect such legislation and to move it ahead?

SPECTER: No, I do not think there is. But I think it’s something to be talked about. That’s why I didn’t put in a bill. I just put in a suggested draft. And that’s why I wrote an op-ed piece for the “Washington Post.” I think this year is going to be too busy. But Lou, next January or February we’re not going to have a whole lot to do before appropriations starts and I think we ought to set the stage. But we’re finding states and local governments are acting on it and it’s crazy quilt and it’s a national issue. And that’s why I don’t think we ought to go to sleep on it. I think we ought to recognize the failures, our lack of credibility, and come up with something that makes sense.

And listen, Lou. No blowing smoke rings. You’ve got a big following. And a lot of people will understand and focus on the issue on your program. That’s why — that’s why we’re so anxious to put our best foot forward and let’s start the discussion. And, listen, we’re open for business. We’re ready to have modifications and suggestions.

Well, senator, I know they’ll be forthcoming and I know the American people will be glad to have their voices heard as always in Washington, DC. And you’re one of the folks who certainly listens as well as leads. We thank you.

SPECTER: I’m on a tour through the states now, through counties, and had two town meetings today and heard a lot about immigration and I’ve learned some things, Lou. When I go back to Washington, I’m going to put them to use.

DOBBS: Well, they always say no one of us is smart as all of us in this democracy. Senator, we thank you very much. Senator Arlen Specter joining us ...<<


31 posted on 08/06/2007 8:40:12 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Illegals: representation without taxation--Citizens: taxation without representation)
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34 posted on 08/06/2007 9:55:27 PM PDT by gubamyster
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The main objective in legalizing the 12 million was to eliminate their fugitive status, allowing them to live in the United States without fear of being detected and deported or being abused by unscrupulous employers...

Total load of crap. The number one reason is the pinhead politicians actually believe that the illegals will vote for "them" if they get them amnestied. But 95% of the mexican illegals will only vote for whomever speaks the "right" language and has the "right" skin color. Rock solid proof that most politicians are dumber than river rocks.

Voting is THE REASON why they will not ever quit trying to amnesty 32 million criminals. There are only two ways to stop them.

35 posted on 08/07/2007 5:00:03 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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