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Professional scientists expose AiG museum's unscientific nature
Society of Vertebrate Paleontology ^ | July 17, 2007 | Society of Vertebrate Paleontology

Posted on 08/06/2007 6:34:13 AM PDT by steveg1961

Professional paleontologists from around the world are concerned about the misrepresentation of science at the newly opened Creation Museum in Petersburg, Kentucky. The Creation Museum has been marketed to the public as a "reasoned, logical defence" for young- earth creationism by Ken Ham, the President and CEO of Answers in Genesis, which runs the Creation Museum. The Society of Vertebrate Paleontology, a world-wide scientific and educational organization concerned with vertebrate paleontology, contends that the museum presents visitors with a view of earth history that has been scientifically disproven for over a century.

The Creation Museum's fossil exhibitions, though artistically impressive, include a vast number of scientific errors, large and small. These errors range from implying that the Earth's sedimentary rocks were deposited by a single biblical Flood, to claiming that humans and dinosaurs lived alongside one another, to denouncing the reality of transitional fossils.

"Ken Ham is not recognized as a scientist or educator among experts in the fields of geology and paleontology, and his views on the interpretation of Biblical texts are extremist. Visitors to his 'museum' may arrive knowing little about these sciences, but they will leave misled and intellectually deceived," said Dr. Kevin Padian, Professor and Curator, University of California, Berkeley and President of the National Center for Science Education.

The fossil exhibits at the Creation Museum discount the last 150 years of paleontological and geological discovery. Not only are transitional fossils, including snakes with limbs and dinosaurs with feathers, abundant in the fossil record, but radiometric dating allows paleontologists to pinpoint the timing of major events in the ancient history of the earth.

For example, Tyrannosaurus rex existed over 65 million years ago, whereas modern humans didn't show up on the scene until 200 thousand years ago. They never walked side by side. The Creation Museum neglects to include this critical data in its analysis of the history of life on earth. "Most of us in the public view museums as places to get the latest information on scientific discovery. In this case, the Creation Museum is using the disguise of science museums and centers without including an iota of science inside," said Dr. Kristi Curry Rogers of the Science Museum of Minnesota.

"That's the real danger of such a place – undermining the basic principles of science, eroding the public's confidence in science, and causing a general weakening of science education in the country," commented Dr. Glenn Storrs of the Cincinnati Museum Center.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: creationism; crevo; evolution; geology; paleontology
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1 posted on 08/06/2007 6:34:18 AM PDT by steveg1961
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To: steveg1961
Dibs on the popcorn concession.
2 posted on 08/06/2007 6:38:30 AM PDT by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: steveg1961

The Creationists should just circulate a petition amongst the faithful and declare that there is “consensus” on this issue.


3 posted on 08/06/2007 6:40:10 AM PDT by gridlock (You cannot coexist with somebody who wants you dead.)
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To: steveg1961

Always beware of the generic “experts in the fields.”


4 posted on 08/06/2007 6:40:14 AM PDT by kc8ukw
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To: kc8ukw
Always beware of the generic “experts in the fields.”

On which side? The article identifies the experts it quotes. What generic 'experts' does the creationism exhibit rely on?

5 posted on 08/06/2007 6:46:56 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: steveg1961

What do these adherents to the Evolution Religion plan to do...arrest the creationists and burn them at the stake? What about the “free marketplace of ideas”?


6 posted on 08/06/2007 6:47:52 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: steveg1961
The Creation Museum's fossil exhibitions, though artistically impressive, include a vast number of scientific errors, large and small. These errors range from implying that the Earth's sedimentary rocks were deposited by a single biblical Flood, to claiming that humans and dinosaurs lived alongside one another, to denouncing the reality of transitional fossils.

Regardless of where a person stands on the creation-vs.-evolution issue, it shouldn't be hard to see that calling something scientifically "in error" for positing a theory which you don't agree with it just boneheaded at best, and further, is circular reasoning.

Sort of like the way evolutionists date fossils....

7 posted on 08/06/2007 6:47:53 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Fred Dalton Thompson for President)
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To: steveg1961; All
The Creation Museum's fossil exhibitions, though artistically impressive, include a vast number of scientific errors, large and small.

Compared to other museums, which contain no errors, large or small. ;-)

8 posted on 08/06/2007 6:49:40 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: kittymyrib
What about the “free marketplace of ideas”?

Doesn't count when you're challenging the dominant paradigm of a pseudoscience like evolution. Just shut up and mouth the dogma.

Evolutio su requiem....

9 posted on 08/06/2007 6:50:22 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Fred Dalton Thompson for President)
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To: steveg1961
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10 posted on 08/06/2007 6:50:36 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: steveg1961
Claiming that humans and dinosaurs lived side by side isn't scientific?

What's next? They'll claim that Jesus' sandal wasn't actually found in Central Park? Those pesky scientists don't believe in anything!

11 posted on 08/06/2007 6:51:32 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Regardless of where a person stands on the creation-vs.-evolution issue, it shouldn't be hard to see that calling something scientifically "in error" for positing a theory which you don't agree with it just boneheaded at best, and further, is circular reasoning.

I guess theories are like "art". Just a matter of opinion.

12 posted on 08/06/2007 6:53:16 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Alter Kaker

I can’t believe it! A space alien was hugging John Kerry????


13 posted on 08/06/2007 6:54:11 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Fred Dalton Thompson for President)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Regardless of where a person stands on the creation-vs.-evolution issue, it shouldn't be hard to see that calling something scientifically "in error" for positing a theory which you don't agree with it just boneheaded at best, and further, is circular reasoning.

Whatever Hamm's creationism is, it isn't a scientific theory. His explanations are completely ludicrous and are recognizable as such to anyone who had a remotely competent college introductory science course. This is Weekly World News "science," not real science.

15 posted on 08/06/2007 6:54:33 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: kittymyrib
What do these adherents to the Evolution Religion plan to do...arrest the creationists and burn them at the stake?

No. Exposing how ridiculous their claims are in the light of known scientific evidence to the contrary should be enough.

16 posted on 08/06/2007 6:55:06 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: tacticalogic
I guess theories are like "art". Just a matter of opinion.

For evolutionists, at least, since at the end of the day, when all their arguments have been refuted, most every evolutionist I've seen ends up falling back on the old "Well, you have to believe it because it's what ALL the scientists believe!" argument.

17 posted on 08/06/2007 6:56:30 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Fred Dalton Thompson for President)
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“That’s the real danger of such a place – undermining the basic principles of science, eroding the public’s confidence in science, and causing a general weakening of science education in the country,” commented Dr. Glenn Storrs of the Cincinnati Museum Center.

Don’t worry about it, Dr. Storrs. Once again science pioneer Al Gore has beaten Hamm to the punch. No one trusts science anymore, at least that science that purports to explain worldwide phenomena.


18 posted on 08/06/2007 6:57:02 AM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Regardless of where a person stands on the creation-vs.-evolution issue, it shouldn't be hard to see that calling something scientifically "in error" for positing a theory which you don't agree with it just boneheaded at best, and further, is circular reasoning.

So in other words it isn't just evolution that you believe has no basis in truth. Geology and paleontology and archeology and meteorology also are completely flawed as well. Perhaps you can make it easier for all of us and tell us what branches of science are valid in your viewpoint?

19 posted on 08/06/2007 6:59:11 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Alter Kaker
Whatever Hamm's creationism is, it isn't a scientific theory. His explanations are completely ludicrous and are recognizable as such to anyone who had a remotely competent college introductory science course. This is Weekly World News "science," not real science.

That's why evolutionists date sedimentary layers using radiometric dating methods which are known to give wildly erroneous numbers, due to the fact that the underlying assumptions of the dating method are wrong, then?

Of course, since it gives them the numbers they want.

20 posted on 08/06/2007 6:59:37 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Fred Dalton Thompson for President)
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