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1 posted on 08/07/2007 3:53:13 AM PDT by monomaniac
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Translation: Nominate Rudy and lose, nominate Fred and win.


2 posted on 08/07/2007 3:58:07 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1876968/posts


3 posted on 08/07/2007 3:59:53 AM PDT by IrishMike (As America wins, the Democrats and their apologists lose.)
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I already changed my affiliation due to the immigration fiasco. Maybe someday.....but for now call me “Independent”.


4 posted on 08/07/2007 4:00:33 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Once a conservative Republican; now only a conservative.)
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The religious and social conservatives are a relatively recent ‘pickup’ by the Republican Party.

Translation: General Election FAIL.


5 posted on 08/07/2007 4:05:20 AM PDT by Swordfished
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Ya think?


6 posted on 08/07/2007 4:06:50 AM PDT by don-o (Do the RIGHT thing. Become a monthly donor. End Freepathons forever)
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“...would not let the national party distance itself from religious and social conservatives stands or saw no indications of that happening.”

In the current two party system, where are they going to go?


7 posted on 08/07/2007 4:09:23 AM PDT by dakine
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Where were the “Evangelical and pro-life Catholics” when Bill Clinton won - twice? Apparently either too unconcerned or too impotent to matter in the Clinton election.

Social issues will be even less important in this election cycle. This time around, it's "Security Stupid" ... making Rudy Giuliani very electable in the general election, and Fred Thompson less so.

9 posted on 08/07/2007 4:15:31 AM PDT by aligncare
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“Is GOP Straying from Conservative Base?”

Has been for a while now, to varying degrees.


10 posted on 08/07/2007 4:15:42 AM PDT by Grunthor (Why kill them with kindness when you can use an axe?)
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“The Democrat policies clearly are antithetical to what religious and social conservatives believe in.”

True, but faced with a choice of two abortionist, gay-loving, gun grabbers? I’ll sit it out.


11 posted on 08/07/2007 4:17:53 AM PDT by Grunthor (Why kill them with kindness when you can use an axe?)
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Inquiring minds want to know how the Republican Party can move away from its base.

With out the base there is no Republican party.

These stories about movement this way or that is no better than those anyone would find about Republicans in The New York Times, The Nation, The New Republic or the LAT.

In fact, many of these stories are nothing more than planted falsehoods by the kook fringe, with an agenda of trying to discourage Conservatives.

I claim to be conservative in thought and I claim to be a Republican for now.

The only way the Republican Party is going to move anywhere is if I stand idly by and let the current smucks calling themselves leaders make all the decisions with out my thunderous contribution.

The quandary with the Republican Party is that we in the base got complacent about who we let run the party.

Sorry Democrats but the Republican Party belongs to the base unlike the Democrats who belong to the Far Left Fringe.

Just the lowly opinion of a red state wannabe.


13 posted on 08/07/2007 4:20:04 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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National R.N.C. headed by my P.O.S. Florida senator mel martinez who pushed for the amnesty bill.
Yeah the r.n.c. is turning away from its conservative base.
I refuse to give them a penny.


14 posted on 08/07/2007 4:20:23 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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...some leaders were left wondering if the party is straying from its conservative stance on social and religious issues.

It takes these guy FOREVER to get a clue.

21 posted on 08/07/2007 5:16:24 AM PDT by PrepareToLeave (Fight on Christian soldiers!)
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As the Republican National Committee (RNC) wrapped up its four-day annual summer meeting in Minneapolis over the weekend, some leaders were left wondering if the party is straying from its conservative stance on social and religious issues.

Boy these guys are sharp. Wicked sharp I tell you!

If you see one, remind him to keep breathing, he might forget. Just a safety precaution for those 'special' ones among us.

25 posted on 08/07/2007 5:21:34 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (Sworn to oppose control freaks, foreign and domestic.)
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I see two possible courses of action brewing in the RNC:

1. Shift further left and hope to garner more of the liberals and soft conservatives. Won’t work - as we have seen in the past.They will alienate the conservative/Christian base.

2. Return to the base and stand up for conservatism - both fiscal and social.

As I see it, the only viable option is #2. If the Republican party moves away from the conservative Christian base, then they will not win another major election.


28 posted on 08/07/2007 5:27:35 AM PDT by TheBattman (I've got TWO QUESTIONS for you....)
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The GOP left it’s conservative base back in 1997 for BIG MONEY DONORS after the Christian Coalition was sued and Jim Nicholson called the Council of Conservative Citizens RACISTS.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1829933/posts?page=27#27

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1829933/posts?page=28#28

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1829933/posts?page=30#30

QUOTE from

‘’A member of the party of Lincoln should not belong to such an organization [Council of Conservative Citizens],’’ said the chairman, Jim Nicholson, FORMER Secretary of Veterans Affairs as of 10/2007.


29 posted on 08/07/2007 5:28:52 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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The Republicans strayed from the Conservatives years ago.


38 posted on 08/07/2007 6:00:43 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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Is GOP Straying from Conservative Base?

No!

The GOP has been sprinting away from its conservative base for some time now.

Lack of border security, the drugs-for-old-people program and Americas taxpayer's dollars being wasted as if Congress were a bunch of drunken sailors on leave might have something to do with the current unrest in the ranks.

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(The above comment was not intended to offend any drunken sailor.)

41 posted on 08/07/2007 6:09:31 AM PDT by MamaTexan (~ Government can make no law contrary to the Law that created the government ~)
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"The religious Right and social conservatives are still a very big part of the party and will be for a long time to come," Anuzis said.

Then, Anuzis and others better be working hard to defeat Guiliani.

45 posted on 08/07/2007 6:43:50 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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Why do I get the impression these people do not see reality.

This RNC meeting must have been for rank and file with the REAL leadership doing back room meetings which go for the amnesty and weak kneed trent lott style contry club elitism with the oposition.


52 posted on 08/07/2007 7:05:43 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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I wonder where Rick Santorum would come down on this?

JD Hayworth?

Jim Ryun?

It's difficult on the one hand to speak as much as we do here about our declining standards of morality, and maintain this notion that the social conservative road is the one to victory.

54 posted on 08/07/2007 7:13:08 AM PDT by lawnguy (Give me some of your tots!!!)
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