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Four San Diego firefighters charge their superiors forced them to ride in San Diego's Gay ...
California Catholic Daily ^ | August 6, 2007

Posted on 08/07/2007 4:17:23 AM PDT by monomaniac

BREAKING NEWS Four San Diego firefighters charge their superiors forced them to ride in San Diego's Gay Pride parade.

“You could not even look at the crowd without getting some kind of sexual gesture. If any crew member were to hang up pictures at the station of what we saw, we would be disciplined.” So said one of four San Diego firefighters who say their superiors forced them, in full uniform and on their city fire truck, to attend the July 21 San Diego “Gay Pride” parade, according to an Aug. 6 press release from the Ann Arbor, Michigan-based Thomas More Law Center.

The Center is representing the firefighters in their legal claims against the city of San Diego.

According to the Center’s press release, the four firefighters’ superiors told them on July 20 that they would have to ride in the parade. In the past, firefighters who attended the parade “generally did so on a volunteer basis,” said the press release. When the four firefighters protested, their superiors told them they must ride in the parade or face disciplinary action.

San Diego Fire Chief Tracy Jarman has said the parade is a “fun event and all employees are encouraged to participate.” San Diego’s Republican mayor, Jerry Sanders, appointed Jarman fire chief in June 2006. According to 365Gay.com, Jarman “lives with her domestic partner” and is “one of only a handful of openly lesbian fire chiefs in the country.”

“What happened to these dedicated public servants was inexcusable,” said Charles LiMandri, the Center’s West Coast director, who is representing the firefighters. “The City should have known from past experience the kind of offensive activities that go on at this event. This was a clear case of sexual harassment in violation of state and federal law as well as the City’s own code of conduct.”

While on parade, the firefighters “were subjected to vile sexual taunts from homosexuals lining the parade route,” said the press release. “Show me your hose,” “you can put out my fire,” “you’re making me hot,” “give me mouth-to-mouth,”“blow my hose,” were some of the comments those along the parade route hurled at the firefighters. When the firefighters did not respond, “some in the crowd turned hostile and started shouting, ‘F—k you firemen’ and others began ‘flipping them off,’” said the press release.

Some bystanders committed lewd acts, directed at the firefighters, such as exposing their genitals, grabbing the crotch, and blowing kisses. The firefighters, however, were not physically assaulted.

Last year, Chief Jarman told Gay and Lesbian Times that she has always kept her personal and private lives separate. She said she told Sanders she wanted to make the department more diverse – but, she said, “it’s not just the Gay community. I think we need to do a better job of recruiting across the board so that we reflect the community.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: celebrateperversity; firefighters; freedomofconscience; gaystapo; gaystapotactics; hedonismandstate; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; indoctrination; mentalillness; sandiego; sodomy; workplace
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1 posted on 08/07/2007 4:17:26 AM PDT by monomaniac
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To: monomaniac
"I think we need to do a better job of recruiting across the board so that we reflect the community.”

Hey I have a novel idea! How about just hiring the best firefighters? I know it's really a stupid and foreign concept, but hey, that's just me.

2 posted on 08/07/2007 4:20:51 AM PDT by ladtx ("You know you are getting old when everything either dries up or leaks." Will Rogers)
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To: monomaniac
See also Firefighterd forced to join in gay pride parade
3 posted on 08/07/2007 4:22:02 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: ladtx

For police that makes a little bit of sense. Policing is usually easier with a force that mirrors the characteristics of the community.

However that don’t work when it comes to dealing with fires. Will a fire in a sad’s house yield more easily to a sad fireperson?


4 posted on 08/07/2007 4:24:22 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: monomaniac
I hope they were wearing their raincoats, helmets and face gear etc to protect them from flying bodily fluids.

No way would anyone get me to attend this sort of sick event. I would happily take any disciplinary action the sick boss wench had for me rather than be subjected to what these guys went through.

5 posted on 08/07/2007 4:27:44 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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I agree, and then sue them if they try any punishment. Maybe get enough to buy a fire engine...


6 posted on 08/07/2007 4:31:16 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Iran should have ceased to exist on 11/5/79, but we had no president then.)
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To: monomaniac

So these firemen were forced to endure sexual comments, cat calls and other unwanted advancements? Anyone heard of sexual harassment? Or does that not apply when its homosexual men doing the harassment and homosexual women arranging the opportunity?


7 posted on 08/07/2007 4:40:44 AM PDT by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing Murtha and his fellow Defeatists want.)
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So not only do we have to accept that sick-assed behavior, now we gotta ride in the damn parade? I hope they sue.More of the in your face alternative lifestyle nonsense.


8 posted on 08/07/2007 4:47:25 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: ladtx

How dare you put people’s safety ahead of the promotion of diversity!

Think of the dead as martyrs in the noble cause of Political Correctness!


9 posted on 08/07/2007 4:54:40 AM PDT by TheTruthAintPretty (G-d Bless our brothers and sisters, sons and daughters, fathers and mothers in harm's way!)
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“You could not even look at the crowd without getting some kind of sexual gesture.”

I hope this lawsuit becomes huge and that the firefighters win big!


10 posted on 08/07/2007 5:02:00 AM PDT by Old Grumpy
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“You could not even look at the crowd without getting some kind of sexual gesture

That is because participants in a gay parade are generally considered, well.... to be homosexuals.

The proper course of action would have been to deny the order to participate. If you are terminated or written up, you file a formal complaint and/or a lawsuit for violation of your civil rights.

11 posted on 08/07/2007 5:18:28 AM PDT by TheBattman (I've got TWO QUESTIONS for you....)
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To: imahawk
Agree, and I’m waiting for the backlash. How bout all the damage to the roadside parks that’s repaired only to reappear.
They need to get their sick and destructive ashes back in the closet or in isolated communities.
12 posted on 08/07/2007 5:24:08 AM PDT by mcshot (Liberals and RINOs spend our money foolishly and represent but themselves.)
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To: monomaniac

This is where the radical, homosexual agenda is taking us....forced activity.

They should have a STRONG lawsuit on the grounds of hostile working environment.....


13 posted on 08/07/2007 6:07:12 AM PDT by Gopher Broke (Run Fred, Run http://www.imwithfred.com/)
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To: Bulldawg Fan

When a Gay guy comes on to you you’re supposed to be flattered, or it’s a Hate Crime.


14 posted on 08/07/2007 6:17:20 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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“The City should have known from past experience the kind of offensive activities that go on at this event. This was a clear case of sexual harassment in violation of state and federal law as well as the City’s own code of conduct.”

YES!

About time the People realized no entity can FORCE you to do anything, particularly the government.

Lawsuits like this will stop the government-sponsored homosexual agenda in its tracks.

15 posted on 08/07/2007 6:23:26 AM PDT by MamaTexan (~ Government can make no law contrary to the Law that created the government ~)
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See this posted story Firefighters to Sue City over 'Gay Pride' Parade
16 posted on 08/07/2007 7:25:15 AM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: monomaniac
Persons performing lewd acts during the parade should've been taking into custody. Did the firefighters complain on the spot or is this something politically motivated?

As I understood it from Roger Hedgecock's Monday show they were inside an apparatus and one reported even keeping his headset on and yet he too claimed in his sworn statement to be hearing these comments. Another left the vehicle to hug his homosexual uncle's "life partner" and his friend then claimed to hurriedly returned to the truck in fear of his safety.

Should they have been ordered to participate despite objections? I'd said likely not. What was the specific motivation behind the order(s) and what specific objections were made.

Did the crowd know the participants were not themselves gay firemen? Might they have assumed otherwise?

Had the crowd been women blowing kisses or exposing nipples instead of men, would these fireman have filed such a complaint?

I don't have a particularly sympathetic view towards these firemen filing legal action but do believe the policies and decisions leading to their allegedly compulsory participation warrants an open investigation.

17 posted on 08/07/2007 7:38:15 AM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: Old Grumpy

Why don’t you write a check from your personal funds and save the rest of us taxpayers the burden?


18 posted on 08/07/2007 7:40:41 AM PDT by newzjunkey
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I agree, there is little defense for some kind of big cash settlement, just another easy way to squeeze some free cash outta the taxpayers of San Diego. If the forcing is the crux of the issue, the appropriate outcome should be policies that clearly state no one is ever to be forced to participate in activities they feel uncomfortable engaging in, and FIRING the Police Chief. That will send a strong message. Doling out a bunch of cash will do little to nothing.


19 posted on 08/07/2007 7:48:25 AM PDT by cold666pack ("I run this town. You're all just a bunch of low-income nobodies!" Mayor Quimby)
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To: ASA Vet

I wonder if the views of these four firemen were know prior to getting the “assignment”. If so, their superiors probably used it against them to force them into accepting that aborant lifestyle. My .02.


20 posted on 08/07/2007 7:48:56 AM PDT by NCC-1701 (PUT AN END TO ORGANIZED CRIME. ABOLISH THE I.R.S.)
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