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A last chance to get rich in real estate? (Nouveau Riche University INSANITY still in Real Estate)
CNN Money ^ | August 7 2007 | Patricia B. Gray

Posted on 08/07/2007 7:37:25 AM PDT by 2banana

Several months ago Silvia Cuevas took stock of her life, and it was a profoundly unsettling experience. At 40 she had a solid job with a modest salary at the public library in Santa Ana, Calif. She'd carefully squirreled away some savings and bought herself a little house. She was financially secure - and utterly dissatisfied. All around her, Santa Ana throbbed with the feverish energy of recent immigrants eager to cash in on the promises of America.

"I was going nowhere," she recalls. "How was I going to find my fortune?" Then a girlfriend introduced her to Nouveau Riche University.

Not exactly a university, Nouveau Riche offers real estate investment classes -and a host of related products and services - to would-be tycoons. In April, Cuevas plunked down tuition of $16,000 and attended a weeklong program in Phoenix. Two weeks later, emboldened by her instructors and an advisor assigned by the university, she refinanced her home, taking out $200,000 - a large share of her equity. She used the money for down payments to buy - sight unseen in one case - three investment properties through a real estate agency controlled by Nouveau Riche. By midsummer Cuevas' portfolio of investments had grown to include a condo in Colorado, three acres of undeveloped land in the Smoky Mountains, and a three-bedroom house in San Antonio. Her debt load has grown too, thanks to the hundreds of thousands of dollars in loans she took out on the properties, but she doesn't worry. "I learned how to be bold at Nouveau Riche," Cuevas says. "They're the market experts, so I trust them to help me buy. I can't wait to make my next purchase!"

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: housingbubble; realestate; speculation
Total Insanity. These people are going to lose everything. It may be boring to have $200,000 equity in your house, some savings and a stable job - but that is better than absolute misery with massive debt, foreclosure on your house and wondering how you will ever make it...

When is this real estate madness going to end????

1 posted on 08/07/2007 7:37:31 AM PDT by 2banana
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To: 2banana

Nouveau Riche University? Frankly, anybody the name itself should have been enough of a giveaway to scare away anybody with half a brain cell.


2 posted on 08/07/2007 7:42:05 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: 2banana
Co-founder and CEO Jim Piccolo claims that revenues will top $80 million in 2007, up tenfold since 2005, when the company was founded and the real estate market peaked. Piccolo makes money not only from tuitions but also from commissions on the properties his students buy and from the fees he charges for accounting, finance, and property-management services.

I sense that jail is in the future for Piccolo...

3 posted on 08/07/2007 7:42:37 AM PDT by ikka
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To: ikka
and mucho lawsuits

He will flee the country in the end. They always do.

4 posted on 08/07/2007 7:46:23 AM PDT by picard
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To: 2banana
"She'd carefully squirreled away some savings and bought herself a little house."

On which she was able to extract $200,000 in a refinance? Some little house.

Plus on a "modest salary at the public library" she can afford to pay an additional $2,000 per month to service that loan? That's it. I'm submitting my resume to my local library.

5 posted on 08/07/2007 7:47:26 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Alter Kaker

Nouveau Riche? I’d say more like Nouveau Broke.


6 posted on 08/07/2007 7:47:43 AM PDT by Leg Olam
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To: 2banana

They have it backwards. One does not become wealthy as a result of SEEKING risk, though the work of becoming wealthy often requires one to ACCEPT risk.


7 posted on 08/07/2007 7:54:41 AM PDT by posterchild (If you don't look ahead nobody will, there's no time to kill - Clint Black)
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To: 2banana

If she needed risk in her life, she could have taken up skydiving.

Oh, well, not my problem, unless I’m expected to feel sorry for her if she loses everything.


8 posted on 08/07/2007 8:18:02 AM PDT by Tax-chick (All the main characters die, and then the Prince of Norway delivers the Epilogue.)
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To: Tax-chick
It will become all of our problems when the Dumocrats decide to bail out the bankers who made these loans to the tune of a trillion dollars.
10 posted on 08/07/2007 8:36:24 AM PDT by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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To: robertpaulsen
On which she was able to extract $200,000 in a refinance? Some little house.

A friend of mine owns a tiny little place (1200sq ft??) in So. Cal. Houses in her neighborhood are selling for 500k, 600k or more. She's refinanced it a couple of times, but she still has 75% equity because she bought it in the 60's.

It's not the house. It's location, location, location.

11 posted on 08/07/2007 8:38:34 AM PDT by narby
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To: robertpaulsen

It’s tough to understand folks sometimes -

I have a younger brother in law that’s planning on buying a 400k condo in Chicago when he graduates from law school. How the heck is someone fresh out of school thinking that he can afford the debt service on a 400k loan?


12 posted on 08/07/2007 8:39:57 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: 2banana

As foreclosures increase and values drop, smart investors should be able to score a coup. Timing is everything.


13 posted on 08/07/2007 8:45:04 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
It’s still about location. Values are still up 1% over last year in my town. Now, that’s a big slow down, but it’s not a market crash. My wife and I just bought. The house we bought was being sold by the owner (a corporation, not your typical FSBO). The house we put an offer in on before that we looked at the day it went on, we were the second people to see it, we offered asking price, and we lost it.

Houses under 200K in decent shape are still moving in my neck of the woods.

When you get to the $300 and $400k houses, which are your 2000 sq ft homes in nice neighborhoods, they are sitting on the market, but for the most part they are overvalued. There is a great house that I wanted to look at. It was a 1700 sq ft. raised ranch in a good school district, in a nice, but not great location. No land to speak of, very good condition. They want $318k, I said forget it, they said they were a little flexible, and I said “you won’t be flexible enough”, seven months later, that house is still on the market. Those people were nuts. The $300k houses around here that are on the market three months are really $200-250k houses. Those aren’t going to sell. I have no idea about the market for the very big ($1 million plus) homes. But for the “small” homes, the market by me is fine.

14 posted on 08/07/2007 9:02:55 AM PDT by NYFriend
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To: MrB
I have a younger brother in law that’s planning on buying a 400k condo in Chicago when he graduates from law school. How the heck is someone fresh out of school thinking that he can afford the debt service on a 400k loan?

The starting salaries at major law firms, for 1st-year associates fresh out of school, are in the $130k-140k range, and go up substantially every year. Toss in huge performance bonuses and benefits such as relocation expenses, and your brother will be able to afford that condo.

For the vast majority of law school grads (like me) that did not make it to a major firm, let's just say I was not the only one that had to endure the nightmare of moving back in with my parents for a few years before being able to afford a modestly-priced condo. I hope your brother fares better than that.

15 posted on 08/07/2007 9:04:17 AM PDT by Freedom_no_exceptions (No actual, intended, or imminent victim = no crime. No exceptions.)
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To: Tax-chick

“Oh, well, not my problem, unless I’m expected to feel sorry for her if she loses everything”

You’re not supposed to feel sorry for her, but you and I and the rest WILL be forced to bail her sorry a$$ out IF she fails.


16 posted on 08/07/2007 11:08:37 AM PDT by RGRX
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To: 2banana
"Several months ago Silvia Cuevas took stock of her life, and it was a profoundly unsettling experience. At 40 she had a solid job with a modest salary at the public library in Santa Ana, Calif. She'd carefully squirreled away some savings and bought herself a little house. She was financially secure - and utterly dissatisfied. All around her, Santa Ana throbbed with the feverish energy of recent immigrants eager to cash in on the promises of America.

"I was going nowhere," she recalls. "How was I going to find my fortune?" Then a girlfriend introduced her to Nouveau Riche University. "

You will not "find" you fortune working in a public library. How about reading some of the books and changing vocations?
17 posted on 08/07/2007 11:20:32 AM PDT by LetsRok
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To: robertpaulsen
On which she was able to extract $200,000 in a refinance? Some little house.

This is SoCal. The guard shack at the county dump costs more than that. ;)

18 posted on 08/07/2007 11:22:35 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: 2banana

More for sale by owner signs up today, and real estate broker signs too. They are not selling. The few that were sold last summer (June) sold instantly.


19 posted on 08/07/2007 11:25:15 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: RGRX
you and I and the rest WILL be forced to bail her sorry a$$ out IF she fails

That's true, but I won't let it bother me. The government would be taking our $$ for something ...

20 posted on 08/07/2007 11:30:40 AM PDT by Tax-chick (All the main characters die, and then the Prince of Norway delivers the Epilogue.)
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