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Taliban launch frontal attack on base---Darwin Award Nominees 2008
yahoo ^ | 7 August 2007 | trueblackman

Posted on 08/07/2007 12:55:00 PM PDT by Trueblackman

By RAHIM FAIEZ, Associated Press Writer1 hour, 6 minutes ago

A group of 75 Taliban militants tried to overrun a U.S.-led coalition base in southern Afghanistan on Tuesday, a rare frontal attack that left more than 20 militants dead, the coalition said in a statement.

The insurgents attacked Firebase Anaconda from three sides, using gunfire, grenades and 107 mm rockets, the coalition said. A joint Afghan-U.S. force repelled the attack with mortars, machine guns and air support.

"Almost two dozen insurgents were confirmed killed in the attack," the statement said. Two girls and two Afghan soldiers were wounded during the fight in Uruzgan province, it said.

A firebase like Anaconda is usually a remote outpost staffed by as few as several dozen soldiers.

"The inability of the insurgent forces to inflict any severe damage on Firebase Anaconda, while being simultaneously decimated in the process, should be a clear indication of the ineffectiveness of their fighters," said Army Capt. Vanessa R. Bowman, a coalition spokeswoman.

A direct attack on a U.S. or NATO base by insurgents on foot is relatively rare. More often insurgents fire rockets at bases and flee. Military officials say that Taliban fighters know they can't match Western militaries in a heads-up battle, which leads the insurgents to more often rely on roadside and suicide bombs.

Meanwhile, South Korean officials and Taliban leaders were expected to agree Tuesday on a meeting place to negotiate the release of 21 South Korean hostages, an Afghan politician said.

The South Koreans and Taliban representatives have been talking by phone for several days and planned to determine a location for their first face-to-face talks by the end of the day, said Gov. Marajudin Pathan, the leader in Ghazni province, where the Koreans were kidnapped.

"There will be one of our government officials in the talks as well," Pathan told The Associated Press.

Pathan said that the meeting is likely to take place in Ghazni province, but could not provide any further details. South Koreans embassy officials were not immediately available for comment.

In South Korea, relatives of the hostages expressed disappointment Tuesday that meetings Sunday and Monday at Camp David between Afghan President Hamid Karzai and President Bush failed to produce concrete measures to bring the captives home.

The Afghan and U.S. presidents ruled out making any concessions to the Taliban militants during their meetings.

South Korean Foreign Minister Song Min-soon cautioned that the country should be prepared for a protracted ordeal, noting that other hostages in Afghanistan had been held an average of 35 days.

Song also said none of the captives were suffering from critical health problems.

A purported Taliban spokesman, Qari Yousef Ahmadi, said the meeting between Karzai and Bush had "no result," and that militant prisoners must be released in exchange for the lives of South Korean hostages or there will be a "bad result."

The militants kidnapped 23 Korean aid workers traveling by bus from Kabul to Kandahar on July 19. Two male hostages have been killed.

Taliban militants clashed with police in two separate incidents in southern Afghanistan, leaving five militants and two officers dead, officials said Tuesday.

The militants attacked police at a checkpoint in Zabul province on Monday, and the ensuing clash left five suspected militants dead, said Ali Kheil, the spokesman for Zabul's governor.

Also Monday, militants attacked a police vehicle just outside Kandahar city, killing two officers and wounding eight others, said provincial police chief Syed Agha Saqib. The attackers escaped and police are hunting for them, he said.

Insurgent attacks and military operations have killed more than 3,600 people so far this year, most of them militants. Much of the violence has been concentrated in the former Taliban stronghold in the south.

Also in southern Afghanistan, Dutch soldiers fatally shot a motorcyclist who approached their convoy and failed to heed warning signals and shots, the Dutch Defense Ministry said.

International forces are often the targets of suicide bombers, and they repeatedly warn Afghan civilian motorists to slow down or steer clear of convoys so they are not mistaken for attackers. Several civilians have been killed in such incidents.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; firebaseanaconda; taliban
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To: Trueblackman

There should be a Special Recognition Darwin Award for these guys............


21 posted on 08/07/2007 1:19:34 PM PDT by Red Badger (All I know about Minnesota, I learned from Garrison Keilor.............)
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To: Yo-Yo

75 dead? Well, we don’t know the number of their wounded who died later. And the # whose injuries are so serious as to preclude them from any further fighting.......


22 posted on 08/07/2007 1:21:04 PM PDT by Red Badger (All I know about Minnesota, I learned from Garrison Keilor.............)
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To: Trueblackman
while being simultaneously decimated in the process

Decimated would have been 7.5 of the attackers. More than 20 dead is a heck of a lot better than decimated. Too bad it wasn't 100%.

23 posted on 08/07/2007 1:22:07 PM PDT by ASA Vet (http://www.rinorepublic.com)
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To: Lee'sGhost

What they were doing is reading the MSM press releases.

Reading such tripe would make anyone believe that our military is completely incompetent and that our operations are all military failures, but reality is an unforgiving teacher...


24 posted on 08/07/2007 1:22:41 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Lee'sGhost

Decimation in the Roman legions was usually reserved for those legions that mutinied. The soldiers would be separated into their groups of ten, each man having a number from 1 to 10. By lot, a number from 1 to 10 would be called out and every man with that number in each group of 10 would be killed. But those not called would still not be entirely spared. It was the job of the other nine to beat the 10th man to death. Since the groups of 10, called decades, were similar to modern squads, the nine would be beating to death one of their comrades and friend.


25 posted on 08/07/2007 1:30:07 PM PDT by ops33 (Retired USAF Senior Master Sergeant)
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To: stm

Hey now, don't insult the cavemen by comparing them to al-Qaeda terrorists!

26 posted on 08/07/2007 1:33:17 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * U.Va. Engineering '09 * Friends Don't Let Friends Vote Democrat * Fred in 2008)
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To: Lee'sGhost

You have inverted it.

Decimate literally means killing 9 out of 10 or cutting the opposing force down to 1/10 of the size.

But in general it is a euphamism any route but especially any route where the force is destruyed to ranks level and requires a total rebuild.


27 posted on 08/07/2007 1:37:08 PM PDT by GulfBreeze (Support America, Support Duncan Hunter for President.)
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To: ishabibble

This proves that this year’s opium crop was really primo.


28 posted on 08/07/2007 1:38:10 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: rabscuttle385
Human wave mass suicide, so easy the Taliban can do it
29 posted on 08/07/2007 1:38:27 PM PDT by stm
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To: ishabibble

Or fighting amongst themselves as to who they were going to kill. “He’s mine!” “No he’s not, I saw him first, he’s mine!”


30 posted on 08/07/2007 1:40:10 PM PDT by stm
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To: Lee'sGhost

Sorry you are right on the original meaning.

The euphamistic use still stands though...


31 posted on 08/07/2007 1:40:34 PM PDT by GulfBreeze (Support America, Support Duncan Hunter for President.)
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To: Lee'sGhost
Actually, decimated means killing one out of ten.

You're the first person I've ever seen who got this right. The Latin derivation is obvious, but most people misuse the word, often used instead to mean total destruction.

32 posted on 08/07/2007 1:40:37 PM PDT by econjack
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To: Trueblackman
“t militant prisoners must be released in exchange for the lives of South Korean hostages or there will be a “bad result.”

We need to announce that if they massacre the Korean hostages
EVERY Taliban prisoner now being held in ALL facilities will be taken out and executed . That will settle the prisoner exchange question and send the correct message for the future.
The taliban are relying on our perceived humanitarian ‘weaknesses’ They have no such impediments.

33 posted on 08/07/2007 1:41:39 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: Trueblackman
"The inability of the insurgent forces to inflict any severe damage on Firebase Anaconda, while being simultaneously decimated in the process, should be a clear indication of the ineffectiveness of their fighters," said Army Capt. Vanessa R. Bowman, a coalition spokeswoman.

**snicker**

34 posted on 08/07/2007 1:43:15 PM PDT by Michael_Michaelangelo (The best theory is not ipso facto a good theory.)
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To: stm

Or: “After you, I already bagged my limit.”


35 posted on 08/07/2007 1:45:36 PM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: GulfBreeze
Decimate literally means killing 9 out of 10 or cutting the opposing force down to 1/10 of the size.

I don't think so. The dictionary says:

"to select by lot and kill every tenth one of"

This is in agreement with ops33's post #25.

36 posted on 08/07/2007 1:46:25 PM PDT by econjack
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To: Trueblackman

Git some! Get some!


37 posted on 08/07/2007 1:47:18 PM PDT by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx." Ronald Reagan)
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To: Trueblackman
“The inability of the insurgent forces to inflict any severe damage on Firebase Anaconda, while being simultaneously decimated in the process, should be a clear indication of the ineffectiveness of their fighters,” said Army Capt. Vanessa R. Bowman, a coalition spokeswoman

Now that is calculated - a broadcasted emasculation of male Muslim fighters by an invading infidel woman - that has got to drive those gihadists into a rage

38 posted on 08/07/2007 1:50:58 PM PDT by rockthecasbah (He has sounded forth the trumpet that shall never call retreat.)
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To: Trueblackman

39 posted on 08/07/2007 1:51:09 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Stop that!)
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To: Lee'sGhost
That's how my Latin teacher taught it:

Decimation - Perhaps the most gruesome punishment of all known to the Roman army was that of decimation. It generally was applied to entire cohorts and meant that every tenth man, randomly chosen by a draw of lots, was killed by being clubbed or stoned to death by his own comrades. This form of punishment of the troops was however extremely rare.

40 posted on 08/07/2007 1:56:27 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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