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To: T.L.Sink
The current law has made the social security numbers a joke among the illegals down here in south Texas. I prepare quarterly reports for a local tree cutting service.

The law says the employer can ask for the ss number but cannot demand to see the card. We file the reports to the IRS and Texas Workforce Commission every three months reporting names, ss numbers and quarterly salaries. About 3 or 4 months later we get a notice from the IRS with a lest of the names and numbers stating that most of the numbers don't seem to match the names .

It's a one page list but the notice is usually 10 or more pages long telling us what the employer can and cannot request to see from the person with the ss number that does not match. All of the names are, of course, hispanic but the IRS goes so far as to assume that the employer may have made a clerical error in reporting.

The employer calls a man in who can speak a little english and asks him to tell the men that they need to give him their ss numbers again. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that it's a combination of 9 numbers. The illegals have a little meeting out in the yard and we're presented with a new list of numbers to go with the names (some of them aren't even close to the previous numbers). I re-submit the report and in another 3 or 4 months we get another notice from the IRS about bad numbers. This has gone on for 6 or 8 years now.

I've asked the employer why he hires illegals and he said he has to or he can't stay in business because his competitors hire illegals.

16 posted on 08/07/2007 2:39:12 PM PDT by texgal (end no-fault divorce laws return DUE PROCESS & EQUAL PROTECTION to ALL citizens))
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To: texgal
"I've asked the employer why he hires illegals and he said he has to or he can't stay in business because his competitors hire illegals."

His mother would tell him, "Don't tell me that 'all the other guys are doing that,' if all of the other guys jumped off a cliff, would you follow them?"

That's the same story everywhere, "everyone else in 'my industry' uses illegals at below minimum wage and I can't survive if I don't."

What we need are some "real teeth" to do the same kind of "instant background checks" that they do if you wish to purchase a gun.

28 posted on 08/07/2007 2:46:56 PM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: texgal

1-866-347-2423

You have no right to bitch about the criminals if you don't make the call.

31 posted on 08/07/2007 2:50:14 PM PDT by ASA Vet (http://www.rinorepublic.com)
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To: texgal

Hi Texgal. If you go to the SSA.gov website and click on business you can enroll to check out SSNs online, almost instantaniously. It;s a minor headache to enroll and then you have to wait on the password through snail mail but it sure takes a lot of the pain in the butt out of it in the long run.


46 posted on 08/07/2007 3:51:58 PM PDT by mpackard (Proud mama of a Sailor.)
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To: texgal

There was actually a case where one company, which refused to hire illegals, sued another company which did hire them, for unfair and illegal business practices. The basis was that this was unfair competition because his competitor’s labor costs were so much lower. We have developed a way (I’ve been told) to verify SS numbers that is quick and efficient. The problem is that groups like the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and other business lobbies love those low wages with no basic benefits and they’ve pressured the politicians - who are unwilling to see the laws enforced.


58 posted on 08/07/2007 5:59:27 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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