Posted on 08/09/2007 3:18:57 AM PDT by abb
I am one of those offspring! My father was a drill sargent at Camp Pendleton getting our recruits and himself ready for the invasion of Japan. From people I have talked to who have seen the defenses of Japan's shores, it would have made D-Day look like a picnic.
Years later I found out a friend's dad was a POW near Nagasaki when the bomb went off. He said the Japanese were preparing to fight to the last person standing and assumed he would be killed as soon as the invasion started by his guards. His guards had already killed many of his buddies. Compare that to what we do now with 'enemy combatants'
If the bombs had not been dropped, it would have been as one US Admiral said 'Japanese is a language only spoken in Hell'.
They were under construction.
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB162/67.pdf
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB162/index.htm
Document 67: General L. R. Groves to Chief of Staff George C. Marshall, August 10, 1945, Top Secret
Source: George C. Marshall Papers, George C. Marshall Library, Lexington, VA (copy courtesy of Barton J. Bernstein)
While Groves was making plans for the use of a third atomic weapon sometime after 17 August, depending on the weather, Marshalls note on this memo shows that he was following Trumans instructions to halt nuclear strikes: It is not to be released over Japan without express authority from the President.
100% concur!
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB162/59a.pdf
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB162/59b.pdf
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB162/59c.pdf
Almost makes you forget that they were in the middle of an imperialistic war that they declared against the US, China, and other nations, partnered with Nazi Germany.
And what of the German scientists who were working on their own nuclear device? Weren't some at work in Japan after the fall of Nazi Germany?
"So innocent". I don't think so.
Or if they had successfully managed to launch their bubonic plague attack against the American west coast.
“The Japanese have only themselves to blame for what ultimately happened.”
Agree totally.
This is when we knew how to win and finish the job. Dimmocrats were different then.
Wasn’t there a third that was tested in the US prior to the missions in Japan?
Yep... and GOD bless your Dad! You nailed it!
LLS
And the subsequent Cold War with the USSR lasted nearly 50 years and led to a continued US presence in Europe.
We are no longer fighting against "Iraq" but some claim that it is all the same war.
The Civil War in the US must not have ended so quickly either because the KKK "insurgency" that rose up during Reconstruction continued to be a terrorist threat in the US for over 100 years.
War is cruelty. There’s no use trying to reform it. The crueler it is, the sooner it will be over.
William Tecumseh Sherman
He received the surrender of what was left of the city in his wardroom. I only found out about when I ran across some pictures in his house showing some really haggard Japanese sitting at a table.
They presented him with a tea set which is now in a marine museum in Maine.
He never talked about but after 4 years in the Pacific he turned down a chance at advancement in DC and retired.
Point being that the first and possibly second nukes were dropped stateside.
I read another article that made the claim that the bombs used in Japan were the last nukes ever dropped. Except there were decades of nuclear tests that followed around the world. They were the first, last, and only nukes used in combat. And perhaps it was their use in Japan that prevented their use in Korea.
If the nuke had been developed and not used in WWII, we likely would've seen it used by some nation at some point.
And just for history's sake, I'll remind readers that the Soviets almost launched a Mutually Assured Destruction attack against the US in the early 1980s because of some faulty equipment readings that indicated the US had "launched". The operator denied the readings he say and refused to launch. He was reprimanded but later his action was celebrated. It wasn't acknowledged until after the fall of the USSR.
You neglected to mention training to repel invaders with bamboo pikes and satchel charges. When I was in Japan I had some very sobering discussions with a guy who was 12 when the war ended. He credited Harry S with saving his life.
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