Posted on 08/09/2007 8:43:03 PM PDT by bnelson44
The threat was picked up by DEBKAfile’s monitors from a rush of electronic chatter on al Qaeda sites Thursday, Aug. 8.
The al Qaeda communications accuse the Americans of the grave error of failing to take seriously the videotape released by the American al Qaeda spokesman Adam Gaddahn last week. “They will soon realize their mistake when American cities are hit by quality operations,” said one message.
Another said the attacks would be carried out “by means of trucks loaded with radio-active material against America’s biggest city and financial nerve center.”
A third message mentioned New York, Los Angeles and Miami as targets. It drew the answer: “The attack, with Allah’s help, will cause an economic meltdown, many dead, and a financial crisis on a scale that compels the United States to pull its military forces out of many parts of the world, including Iraq, for lack of any other way of cutting down costs.”
There is also a message which speaks obliquely of the approaching attacks easing the heavy pressure America exerts on countries like Japan, Cuba and Venezuela.
DEBKAfile’s counter-terror sources and monitors say there is no way of gauging for sure how serious these threats are, how real, or whether they are part of a war of nerves to give the Gaddahn tape extra mileage. But it is important to note that the exchange of messages took place over al Qaeda’s internal Internet sites and that they contained the threat of radioactive terror and specific American cities for the first time after a long silence on these subjects.
In addition, a growing number of clips has been disseminated of late over al Qaeda sites instructing the faithful how to design remote-controlled gliders, pack them with explosives and launch them against predetermined targets.
(Excerpt) Read more at debka.com ...
Al-Qaeda seems pretty impotent at projecting power since the U.S. took the war to them.
Hey, it’s Debka.
I hope they kill themselves before they get to anyone else.
DEBKA is always good for a laugh or two . . .
DEBKA just makes this stuff up.
I think it’s a sign that the surge is working.
As does the liberal media.
Of course, with modern “journalism”, Al Q could load a Fiestaware plate and a Coleman mantle onto a truck and the MSM would go ballistic (as long as their “journalism” was safe).
You’ve been monitoring terrorist web sites...have you heard this chatter?
One of these countries is not like the others - can you guess which one?
One day Debka is going to be right about something, that will be the final sign of the end of times.
For what it’s worth I have heard second hand chatter from Mexico, I have relatives down there. It seems the state of Tamaulipas is host to a rather large Al Qaeda camp where some mountain valleys have been purchased in their entirety and closed to the locals, and with the access to the ocean and Texas, they are moving people in by boat and crossing the border. Only a few news reports, mostly translated from Spanish, talk about Al Qaeda in Mexico but the word among the natives is that the size of the thing is grossly underestimated.
If this is on the up and up, you might want to give your local FBI office a call tomorrow. They will take it from there.
Sounds like we need to shutdown access to balsa wood and Exacto knives :)
See if I can find a decent map of the place.
Dear Lord, let the enemy stumble and thwart it’s plans.
“easing the heavy pressure America exerts on countries like Japan, Cuba and Venezuela.”
Japan?
The size of what thing?
Didnt Gadahn sleep with Osama, who slept with Arafat?
Of significance. Homeland Security knows and acknowleges that if any 3 US major ports are taken out of action, ALL WORLD SEA COMMERCE ceases within 2 weeks, and once this happens, it will take many months to resume if no further disruptions occur. This is a little known mechanism by the public that would bring down stockmarkets the world over, as well as threaten a certain , dominant world currency. Even if this report comes from Debka, it must be taken seriously, and, port security must be heightened. This is due to the extremely close computer scheduling of world-wide commerce for port access for loading and unloading. China is so advanced, that custom fashiom orders are recognized for production and shipment only a few weeks before actual shipment. Their whole economy would crash also, although my concern is in regard to ours. Al-Qaeda has threatened 7 cities consistently..NY, Boston, Washington,DC, Miami, Houston, LA and Las Vegas (for ‘moral’ reasons)....5 of the 7 targets are major ports.
LoL
When (not if) the next attack happens, it will be interesting to read all the doubting FReeper's comments.
The economy...yes indeed. We’ve seen the computer hackers in action, current market and financial situation is concerning, China’s threats...
I do agree, we need to keep an eye open here.
When, not if the next attack happens, you won’t hear about it from Debka.
something like that might have occurred in boys-town? /s
http://www.map-of-mexico.co.uk/map-of-tamaulipas.htm
Is there any new imformation about the 60 some Afghani Taliban terrorists that the FBI says crossed the Mexican border into Texas in order to covertly get to Fort Huachuca on the Mexican border with Arizona to launch an attack? A friend of my wife’s is a Marine MP stationed there and confirmed it. He said the south side of the base on the Mexican border has a large wall so an attack there from Mexico would be near impossible, so it made sense that they would try to cross into the U.S. and attack the base from the other directions. He also told her that the base was put on full alert late Friday night when the FBI briefed the base commander informing him about these terrorists. They’re supposedly armed with RPGs and machine guns, etc..
I may be remembering incorrectly, but isn’t Fort Huachuca also a large listening and intelligence gathering base? I seem to recall that it was used to monitor a lot of satellite, cell, land line, and internet communications. If that’s true, it would certainly make sense why terrorists would want to attack that base, though it seems pretty foolish, since even 60 men isn’t enough to take a U.S. military installation. They’d be wiped out in pretty short order.
This didn’t get any media play that we saw, but I called one of the Houston TV stations and they said it was on some of the evening and cable news broadcasts. Have there been any updates? We haven’t spoken to her friend since Saturday night when he told us about it. The shocking thing is that even this would not change the minds of opponants of a border wall. The lazy stupid retard gene runs strong and it runs deep for certain. If there is a thread with updates about this can someone please direct me to it? Thanks.
(Talking about why thread got pulled:)
I have no clue. It’s not classified. If it was, our Marine friend wouldn’t have told us. The watch commander told him it was not classified, but that they were on full alert.
And it was in some media outlets, just not heavily like it should be.
““They will soon realize their mistake when American cities are hit by quality operations,” said one message.”
There will also be chocolates. - Smoove B
Hard to Say, JimRob has often been conscientious about security info on his web site, and doesn’t want to be a clearing house for rumors. Looks like Fort Huachuca is a few hundred miles out of range of the Tamaulipas base, but entirely possible given a porous border. Big Bend down to Brownsville Tx would be the easy operating area, with a very porous border. I have relatives who avoid central Mexico for the bandits who roam the highways there at night now, and travel over to Brownsville before going down through Tamaulipas. The media would be exceedingly quiet about any such developments, consistent with their conduct as allies of Al Qaeda.
Amen!
Great to know AQ/Taliban has a post just south of us.
There was an update to the Ft. Huachuca scenario, .mil personnel were advised not to go to cantinas, tiendas etc in Mexico or along the border.
How bad would the damage from a americium-241 bomb be? In 2002, Dr. Henry Kelly, President of the Federation of American Scientists told the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations that "a typical americium source used in oil well surveying... blown up with one pound of TNT,[would require] people in a region roughly ten times the area of the initial bomb blast... [to obtain] medical supervision and monitoring... [A] swath one kilometer long and covering twenty city blocks... would have to be evacuated within half an hour. After the initial passage of the cloud, most of the radioactive materials would settle to the ground. Of these materials, some would be forced back up into the air and inhaled, thus posing a long-term health hazard... A ten-block area contaminated in this way would have a cancer death probability of one-in-a-thousand. A region two kilometers long and covering sixty city blocks would be contaminated in excess of EPA safety guidelines. If the buildings in this area had to be demolished and rebuilt, the cost would exceed fifty billion dollars" [Source].
This is of course a worst-case scenario; nevertheless, when one adds in the probable shock effect such an event would have on interstate commerce, securities markets and consumer confidence, the potential damage from a terrorist "smoke detector bomb" could be extensive. Despite the antics of the "atomic boy scout", the risk that a terrorist might use radioactive materials of any kind as part of an attack is no laughing matter.
Thanks for this. Google Earth is a handy tool.
DEBKA = Not important enough to trigger a shower.
Venezuela isn’t an island? (lol)
Thailand?
I didn't find any high ranges on T-pas via g-earth.
Thanks for posting this story. In love Debka.
Google Earth says it’s at:
24o17’22.10” N 98o37’10.18” W
Looks like mountains but can’t tell how tall. I have the free version so it’s blurry when I get too close. :-)
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
If AQ really wants to scare Americas, don’t attack us in places like Miami, LA, New York or Boston. They should try attacking us in Chicago, Denver or Saint Louis, places that are in the center of the country.
He said the south side of the base on the Mexican border has a large wall so an attack there from Mexico would be near impossible, so it made sense that they would try to cross into the U.S. and attack the base from the other directions.
There's also huge and very beautiful mountains to the immediate south of Fort Huachuca. I hiked up there many times, but never saw anything, except a few locations which were the leftovers of campfires....
He also told her that the base was put on full alert late Friday night when the FBI briefed the base commander informing him about these terrorists.
Well, that statement is not totally accurate. Maybe the base commander was in fact briefed by the FBI, but the commander at the time was female, not male. However, at around the same time, security at the post was slightly increased due to narco-violence that was in danger of spilling over the border.
I may be remembering incorrectly, but isn’t Fort Huachuca also a large listening and intelligence gathering base? I seem to recall that it was used to monitor a lot of satellite, cell, land line, and internet communications.
Fort Huachuca is mainly where soldiers are trained in military intelligence. The only intelligence gathering done there, that I know of, is the Aerostat that watches for drug-smuggling planes. They also train in the operation UAVs there. And experiment with radios and other electromagetic stuff, because of the sparse radio interference in the region. There's also the 9th Signal Command there. Fort Huachuca's important, but it's mainly not an operational base, but a training base.
If that’s true, it would certainly make sense why terrorists would want to attack that base, though it seems pretty foolish, since even 60 men isn’t enough to take a U.S. military installation. They’d be wiped out in pretty short order.
I highly doubt it. At the right time and place, you could easily kill more soldiers there in less than five minutes than die in Iraq in an entire month. I don't want to say more than that, but I would characterize Fort Huachuca as a soft target, personally. That's just me, a MI private. I'm not a MP or anything like that.
I heard similar chatter on the terrorists forums although they did not specify the US cities but they were saying that they need experts with non Conventional Weapons (Nuclear, Biological, Chemical) to join their ranks.
YIPES!! That is not good. I don't like the sound of that at all.
Sounds like a job for an AC130U.
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