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BUNGLERS MISSED THEIR SHOTS TO STOP A SLAUGHTER (illegal molester coddled by system)
NY POST ^ | EDITORIAL

Posted on 08/11/2007 6:59:04 AM PDT by Liz

Authorities had several chances to get José Carranza off the streets. They didn't...... and so three innocent college kids were brutally murdered .....How was an illegal immigrant arrested for felony assault and twice on 31 counts involving the repeated sexual assault of a 5-year-old girl - on the street in the first place?

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: aliens; carranza; crimaliens; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; newark; openbordertraitors; sanctuarycities; sexcrimes; slavers
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To: RavenATB; nicmarlo; processing please hold; Eaker
Where are all the pro-illegal immigrant advocates who used to roam these threads telling us all about how good for this country these illegals are? Stand up and take some credit, people...

I'm wondering the same thing.
They are usually spamming most of these threads with some nonsense about how all the aliens are good people,
how our crops will rot on the vine, and how we are all only hysterical about the crime and disease.

The liberal and establishment media couldn't keep the truth hidden forever - about how many murders and rapes the illegal aliens are actually committing...
How will the pro-criminals cope?

61 posted on 08/11/2007 3:46:27 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: vetsvette

It is not ‘leftists’ as much as embedded politicians -— on both sides of the aisle. A culture of corruption. I’ve worked on political campaigns and have seen how a good man can have trouble because he won’t succumb to his own parties entrenchment.

Christie Whitman was a so-called Republican and look at her. We are overpowered by NYC soccer moms and the inner-city. What to do?


62 posted on 08/11/2007 4:22:57 PM PDT by Exit148 (Founder of the Loose Change Club. Every nickle and dime counts!!)
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To: Liz

Bookmark


63 posted on 08/11/2007 4:26:12 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: rodguy911
don’t look for sanctuary cities or states to defend the population, time to move somewhere where conservative values are still in vogue.

BTW, where were our two border patrol members Ramos and Compean arrested, prosecuted and sent to prison for shooting a drug smuggling illegal alien?

64 posted on 08/11/2007 4:30:38 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: VOA

#64


65 posted on 08/11/2007 4:34:51 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

Fair enough...those border agents did get the short end of the stick in
Texas...it sounds like border agents just are persecuted around the country.

But the average Joe/Josephine in Texas does have more of the law
on their side if they’ve got to act to protect themselves.
And...no place is perfect.


66 posted on 08/11/2007 4:41:46 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Exit148
“It is not ‘leftists’ as much as embedded politicians”

In New Jersey, “embedded politicians” are all leftists. Even the new ones, like Corzine, are leftists.

Christy Todd Whitman was not a leftist, per se, but she was a liberal — a liberal Republican, perhaps, but still a liberal. That said, she wasn’t a bad Governor for New Jersey, a real rarity.

67 posted on 08/11/2007 4:44:33 PM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: Exit148
A culture of corruption. I’ve worked on political campaigns and have seen how a good man can have trouble because he won’t succumb to his own parties entrenchment.

Namely the special interest of the elite.

The name of the game? Profit before country regardless of consequences. You can see it now in every state, every county, every city and town.

68 posted on 08/11/2007 5:07:41 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: wideawake
My source was my intimate familiarity with the way criminal "justice" in my state works - my wife interned her way through law school assisting public defenders in Newark

See, you should have said that to begin with!

As to the rest of your post you will find no disagreement here. I will add that even though it's the urban centers to blame, it doesn't change the fact that all of NJ government is a cesspool. Take it from this Morris County resident.

69 posted on 08/11/2007 5:53:58 PM PDT by free me (Enforce the borders, then we'll talk...)
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To: wideawake
The NJ state government is a cesspool because the urban centers which the entire state government's structure was predicated on: Newark, the Hudson County cities, Trenton and Camden - are all slums run by Democratic machines.

And the red state of Texas is what?

2006 last year, Dallas Texas- 500,000 Illegals and their supports march on Dallas making demands and threats.

Not to mention that Dallas's crime rate is now way higher than Los Angeles and many other cities.

70 posted on 08/11/2007 6:05:09 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: DCPatriot
“Please stop this?”

I wasn’t aware that reminding you, and others, of your previous statements about illegal immigration was in any way a violation of FR rules.

I invite anyone, and everyone, to go back and check your posts on the subject of illegal immigration. If I’ve misunderstood what you’ve written and incorrectly concluded that you were a supporter of illegal immigration, I certainly hope you’ll let me know.

71 posted on 08/11/2007 7:10:51 PM PDT by RavenATB
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To: RavenATB
You should be ashamed of yourself for suggesting I take a bow in a thread about these horrible murders by illegal aliens.

As if people like me are responsible and support this. That is sick...even for you.

Shame! Your side is in pack mentality mode and live in the forum to attack anybody with an alternative view.

Thanks, but I'm not playing.

72 posted on 08/11/2007 8:44:14 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: free me
Also check out this from another article: Carranza is being held on $1 million bail. His lawyer, Felix Lopez Montalvo, declined to comment, but Carranza's sister said today he is innocent of the killings.

This is is third indictment and they still offer him bail?

link to article

From your link

Officials continued to insist today that the murders -- in which the victims were black and the suspects, so far, are Hispanic -- were not related to racial tensions or gang activity.

"This is a heinous act, this is a vicious act ... but there is no evidence that it was a racist crime," Booker said.

Well thank the lord Mayor Booker. That makes the 3 murders a little less horrible.

73 posted on 08/11/2007 9:05:17 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: DCPatriot
“You should be ashamed of yourself for suggesting I take a bow in a thread about these horrible murders by illegal aliens.
As if people like me are responsible and support this. That is sick...even for you.”

Those, like you, who are vocal opponents of measures to clear our nation of illegal aliens are very much responsible for the “unintentional consequences” of their presence in this country...including horrifying crimes like the one in this story.

I’m not ashamed, at all, to point the finger at you and remind everyone that you have been an outspoken advocate for allowing illegal aliens to stay in this country. You, and people like you, are the reasons they’re here.

It is your money, your political effort, and your tolerance of their disrespect for our boarders and laws that has given animals like the one who executed the kids in this situation a safe haven in the United States.

It is you, and people like you, who constantly tell us that our economy can’t survive without these criminals...as if we didn’t build this economy without them...that provides political cover for their employers.

If this nation handled their immigration situation as I would have wished years ago these three kids would be enjoying their college experience, today. Unfortunately, too many people in this nation have given a sympathetic ear to idiots who tell us that our economy depends on them, so we must tolerate their disrespect for our laws, our culture, and our boarders.

As you have advocated we allow them to stay here and work, you advocate for the affects that go along with their presence...including the crimes they commit.

It is YOU, who should be ashamed. It is YOU, and people like you, who make this country a tempting risk for criminals like the one who killed these three kids. And, it is YOU, and people like YOU, who deserve the “credit” for what you’ve created.

This is the environment you’ve helped to create by lobbying that these criminals be allowed to remain here. This is part of the legacy of your political advocacy. These three dead children are part of your scorecard.

So yes! Stand up and take a bow. When you argue for the illegals to be allowed to stay, you’re not just arguing for cheap lettuce...you’re arguing for everything that comes along with it.

Certainly, you didn’t pull the trigger. But without you, and people like you, the killer wouldn’t have been here to pull the trigger, either.

It’s your “chit sandwich”...so have a nice big bite.

74 posted on 08/11/2007 9:55:53 PM PDT by RavenATB
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To: DCPatriot

“Shame! Your side is in pack mentality mode and live in the forum to attack anybody with an alternative view.”

How many dozens of times have you pulled this lame arrow out of your quiver. Get a new act! You’re not the victim, here...there are three dead kids who are the victims.

It has nothing to do with people attacking others because of a difference of opinion. You’re an advocate for those who break our immigration laws.

It’s not political disagreement we’re dealing with, here...you are taking the side of criminals, and some of those criminals are killing our children.


75 posted on 08/11/2007 10:12:24 PM PDT by RavenATB
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To: machogirl

WHERE’S SHARPTON & JESSE???


76 posted on 08/12/2007 4:26:36 AM PDT by FES0844 (FES0844)
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To: RavenATB; DCPatriot
You are on target Raven.

You, DCP, have made your own bed. No fewer than a half dozen times (probably twice that) you have been asked about the criminal impact of your illegals on the American public. Asked to justify the horrors experienced at the hands of illegals. Every single time your response was "YAWN".

"YAWN", as in "I could not care less, it bores me".

You have created an image for yourself that is despicable and we all see you in that image.

77 posted on 08/12/2007 6:16:48 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: wideawake
But free he was - on $150,000 bail

Who put up the cash? MALDEF?

78 posted on 08/12/2007 6:32:49 AM PDT by montag813
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To: B.O. Plenty
I would like to see some retrubution...the judge, city councilmen...mayors, prosecutors.....all in jail, or in this case, hanged at the most populous intersection of the town at high noon.

There was a more civilized era of America when this sort of thing was done. Alas, we are like Rome just before the barbarian invasions now.

79 posted on 08/12/2007 6:34:26 AM PDT by montag813
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To: RavenATB
“Please stop this?”

I wasn’t aware that reminding you, and others, of your previous statements about illegal immigration was in any way a violation of FR rules.

I invite anyone, and everyone, to go back and check your posts on the subject of illegal immigration. If I’ve misunderstood what you’ve written and incorrectly concluded that you were a supporter of illegal immigration, I certainly hope you’ll let me know.

________________________________________________

Again, on target.

DCP, you set the standard every time you defend illegals and then label those who oppose illegals as 'morons, xenophobes, bigots, dumb, nazis, storm troopers..."

You have aggressively created an ugly persona. When people react to the picture that you alone painted then you run to mommy-mod and plead for protection and freedom to use all the insults that you do without blow-back.

80 posted on 08/12/2007 7:03:04 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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