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Islamists urge caliphate revival
BBC ^ | Sunday, 12 August 2007, | n/a

Posted on 08/12/2007 7:30:03 AM PDT by fishhound

A Indonesian boy holds a flag with Arabic writing during the International Caliphate Conference 2007 in Jakarta. Most of the 80,000 who attended the conference were Indonesian Some 100,000 Islamists have met in the Indonesian capital, Jakarta, to press for the re-establishment of a caliphate across the Muslim world.

The Islamist group Hizb ut-Tahrir - which organised the conference - said it had been the largest gathering of Muslim activists from around the world.

However, the group is illegal in many countries and key speakers have been stopped from entering Indonesia.

A caliphate - or single state for Muslims - last existed in 1924.

Hizb ut-Tahrir regards this as the ideal form of government, because it follows what it believes are the laws of God as set out in the Koran, rather than laws designed by man.

The group says it seeks to set up a caliphate by non-violent means - but many experts see it as ideologically close to jihadist groups.

It is banned in most of the Middle East and parts of Europe.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: caliphate; islam; jihad; muslims; wot
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I notice that few times are authors/writers are ever listed in reports about Muslim extremeists. I wonder if it is policy or fear of retribution that authors are not listed. If there is no author listed anybody could have pulled the story together.
1 posted on 08/12/2007 7:30:04 AM PDT by fishhound
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To: fishhound

Missed that...

The BBC’s Lucy Williamson in Jakarta says that of the estimated 100,000 people packing the stadium hired for the event, the overwhelming majority were women, who have travelled from across Indonesia to attend.


2 posted on 08/12/2007 7:33:55 AM PDT by fishhound
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To: fishhound

I hope that there were enough CIA agents around in Jakarta to identify any American Muslims attending the meeting.


3 posted on 08/12/2007 7:40:32 AM PDT by 353FMG (Take me seriously at your own peril.)
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To: fishhound

Don’t tell that to the Ron Paul supporters.


4 posted on 08/12/2007 7:40:40 AM PDT by Perdogg (Cheney for President 2008)
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To: fishhound
Posted here - an Australian blog - The Midnight Sun.

Also take note of Aurora's article on the EU Treaty - the 6th to be signed in 2008. We have the makings of an Armageddon coming...

5 posted on 08/12/2007 7:43:40 AM PDT by Alkhin (star dust contemplating star dust)
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To: fishhound

What a target-rich environment, and we missed it.


6 posted on 08/12/2007 7:43:43 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: fishhound

Well, I support a revived Caliphate. Do it guys. And then meet us at Malta for further discussions.


7 posted on 08/12/2007 8:04:01 AM PDT by Enterprise (I can't talk about liberals anymore because some of the words will get me sent to rehab.)
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To: fishhound

They already have a caliphate, all they lack is the caliph. Tehran is where it is.


8 posted on 08/12/2007 8:06:20 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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Don’t tell that to the Ron Paul supporters.

Indeed. I'm so sure this is all the fault of the U.S. or Israel somehow!

9 posted on 08/12/2007 8:08:08 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Alkhin

Thank You.


10 posted on 08/12/2007 8:13:55 AM PDT by fishhound
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To: montag813

They don’t believe that islamofacists are interested in establishing a world wide caliphate.


11 posted on 08/12/2007 8:18:21 AM PDT by Perdogg (Cheney for President 2008)
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To: Alkhin
Thanks for the link.

I love this comment.>MK, the leftists are long past being able to defend their lunch from the seagulls! This takes something the left don’t have; guts, to fight.

Lololol, on the first, and ain't that the truth on the latter.

12 posted on 08/12/2007 8:23:53 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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“A caliphate - or single state for Muslims - last existed in 1924.”

And they have never ceased to seek it....4 years later the Muslim Brotherhood was officially “founded” and its ideaology has never wavered except for the Taqiyya it publishes for lulling public consumption. Here is what its goals and activities are:

snipped:
*The Project* is an outline for a strategy - most likely drawn up by the Muslim Brotherhood - to combine jihad, surveillance, infiltration and propaganda (among other techniques) in order to “establish the reign of Allah throughout in the world” via the creation of the Caliphate and its subsequent dominance.

It should be emphasised that, while the author or authors remains unknown (although I’m working on an article that presents an interesting guess), its authenticity - in that it is what it pretends to be, and is the product of “Islamic researchers” - has been admitted by the Egyptian financier and longtime Muslim Brotherhood member in whose villa it was found by Swiss authorities, who entered it into evidence in a court case against him. snip

Towards a worldwide strategy for Islamic policy
(Points of Departure, Elements, Procedures and Missions)

This report presents a global vision of a worldwide strategy for Islamic policy [or “political Islam”]. Local Islamic policies will be drawn up in the different regions in accordance with its guidelines. It acts, first of all, to define the points of departure of that policy, then to set up the components and the most important procedures linked to each point of departure; finally we suggest several missions, by way of example only, may Allah protect us.

The following are the principal points of departure of this policy:

Point of Departure 1: To know the terrain and adopt a scientific methodology for its planning and execution.

Point of Departure 2: To demonstrate proof of the serious nature of the work.

Point of Departure 3: To reconcile international engagement with flexibility at a local level.

Point of Departure 4: To reconcile political engagement and the necessity of avoiding isolation on one hand, with permanent education and institutional action on the other.

Point of Departure 5: To be used to establish an Islamic State; parallel, progressive efforts targeted at controlling the local centres of power through institutional action.

Point of Departure 6: To work with loyalty alongside Islamic groups and institutions in multiple areas to agree on common ground, in order to “cooperate on the points of agreement and set aside the points of disagreement”.

Point of Departure 7: To accept the principle of temporary cooperation between Islamic movements and nationalist movements in the broad sphere and on common ground such as the struggle against colonialism, preaching and the Jewish state, without however having to form alliances. This will require, on the other hand, limited contacts between certain leaders, on a case by case basis, as long as these contacts do not violate the [shariah?] law. Nevertheless, one must not give them allegiance or take them into confidence, bearing in mind that the Islamic movement must be the origin of the initiatives and orientations taken.

Point of Departure 8: To master the art of the possible on a temporary basis without abusing the basic principles, bearing in mind that Allah’s teachings always apply. One must order the suitable and forbid that which is not, always providing a documented opinion [? “Il faut ordonner le convenable et interdire le blâmable, tout en donnant un avis documenté”]. But we should not look for confrontation with our adversaries, at the local or the global scale, which would be disproportionate and could lead to attacks against the dawa or its disciples.

Point of Departure 9: To construct a permanent force of the Islamic dawa and support movements engaged in jihad across the Muslim world, to varying degrees and insofar as possible.

Point of Departure 10: To use diverse and varied surveillance systems, in several places, to gather information and adopt a single effective warning system serving the worldwide Islamic movement. In fact, surveillance, policy decisions and effective communications complement each other.

Point of Departure 11: To adopt the Palestinian cause as part of a worldwide Islamic plan, with the policy plan and by means of jihad, since it acts as the keystone of the renaissance of the Arab world today.

Point of Departure 12: To know how to turn to self-criticism and permanent evaluation of worldwide Islamic policy and its objectives, of its content and its procedures, in order to improve it. This is a duty and a necessity according to the precepts of sharia.
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http://dailyablution.blogs.com/the_daily_ablution/2005/11/the_project_par.html

This is what is taught in madrassas daily, all over the world........we have a serious problem to deal with.....can we do it effectively NOW, or will we just kick the can down the road of political correctness and taqiyya again and again? In 1928, the Muslim Brotherhood simply wanted their broken caliphate back........the above is what it has evolved to, and the progress they have made is self-evident on a very nearly worldwide basis.

snip from another piece:
April 02, 2007
The Muslim Brotherhood’s Propaganda Offensive
By Rachel Ehrenfeld and Alyssa A. Lappen
The Muslim Brotherhood (MB) is heightening its U.S. propaganda offensive in advance of the 2008 presidential elections, taking advantage of the political uncertainty and opposition to the current Administration’s defense policies against radical Muslim terrorist organizations and states.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/04/the_muslim_brotherhoods_propag.html


13 posted on 08/12/2007 8:25:12 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: fishhound
A caliphate - or single state for Muslims - last existed in 1924.

I have a caliphate. It's between my bathroom sink and tub.

14 posted on 08/12/2007 8:38:32 AM PDT by rickmichaels (God Bless America, Land That I Love)
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To: 353FMG
Don't bet on it - US and UK intelligence have put their faith and fealty with the Indonesian government - Im writing my report to be posted later this evening - hope to have it out in a few hours

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

15 posted on 08/12/2007 9:14:11 AM PDT by expatguy (Support Capitalism and Democracy - Support "An American Expat in Southeast Asia")
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To: rickmichaels

I love it when someone can make me giggle on a serious threat, it breaks the tension. :)


16 posted on 08/12/2007 9:46:38 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

Great Post.
Thanks


17 posted on 08/12/2007 10:46:40 AM PDT by fishhound
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To: fishhound
Updated with propaganda videos and report

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

18 posted on 08/12/2007 7:11:32 PM PDT by expatguy (Support Capitalism and Democracy - Support "An American Expat in Southeast Asia")
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To: rickmichaels
I have a caliphate. It's between my bathroom sink and tub.

Sounds like a good place to keep a Koran!

19 posted on 08/12/2007 7:20:41 PM PDT by hunter112 (Change will happen when very good men are forced to do very bad things.)
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To: fishhound
It's none of our business, and none of our concern, how the Ummah wants to organize itself.

One of the advantages of a Caliphate is that it gives our SSBNs a definite target.

Whether or not the Muslims form a Caliphate, what's key is that they don't get to export their barbarism over here.

20 posted on 08/12/2007 7:23:25 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Trails of troubles, roads of battle, paths of victory we shall walk.)
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