Posted on 08/14/2007 6:03:58 PM PDT by neverdem
HR 2640 motivated by psychopathic murderer
Calls for more "gun control" grow louder
No calls for gun-safety training or expanded carry rights can be heard
Dept. of Homeland Security to contribute to NICS database
GUN LAW UPDATE
June 15, 2007
NEW FEDERAL GUN LAW COMING
NEW FEDERAL GUN LAW COMING
NEW FEDERAL GUN LAW COMING
Dept. of Homeland Security to join in NICS database
Dept. of Homeland Security to join in NICS database
Rights restorations promised but fuzzy
by Alan Korwin, Author
Gun Laws of America
Permission to circulate granted
The House of Representatives, with unusual backing from both the NRA and anti-gun activists in the Democrat party, just passed HR 2640 on an unrecorded voice vote. The "NICS Improvement Act" will greatly expand the list of people banned from buying or having firearms, and now goes to the Senate where it will likely be fast-tracked for approval.
Using "gun control" and murdered young students as a rallying cry, the federal government has moved another step closer to a national computerized system capable of screening the entire population.
If tied in to a national ID card being developed through linked state driver's licenses (the so-called "Real ID Act" passed in 2005), all significant activity in the nation could be monitored under the guise of crime control.
In typical fashion, the bill coerces states into cooperation with promises of grants and threats of withheld funding, depending on their degree of compliance. It is unlikely that states will be able to afford to resist, compromising any remaining sovereignty they have. The net effect will be to hasten centralized...
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For every new gun law enacted, two existing ones should have to be repealed.
BUMP-—>time for action!
(are democrats really this stupid?!)
I have absolutely no problem with those judged mentally incompetent being barred from owning handguns.
time to permanently outsmart the dems. put them out of their misery.
time to permanently outsmart the dems. put them out of their misery.
Cowards.
In theory I don’t either. What I do have a problem with is knee-jerk legislation designed to appease the very vocal gun grabbers who would love to see us continue to slide down the slippery slope (and if you don’t think we are on that slope, better think again). Gun control has nothing to do with crime.
“I have absolutely no problem with those judged mentally incompetent being barred from owning handguns.”
That’s how they get you with their “reasonable” gun regulations. How will you feel when an unelected judge or Government employee decides, in secret, that you might pose a risk to society and takes away your rights to even possess a gun — and you find yourself not only lacking a root to appeal, but even the right to know who decided you are incompetent to possess a weapon?
That is what this new legislation permits.
When the left calls it “reasonable” you can bet you’re about to get screwed.
So what is an “ordinary” citizen? Who gets to decide?
The problem with this legislation is that thew devil is in the details. Let’s say you are depressed as a teenegaer and get put on the list. Now you are barred for life becuase no doctor will ever let you off the list - why would a doctor take a chance on clearing you?
Eric, although I have obviously not read the text of the bill, what I have read indicates to me that the additions to the NICS database do not necessarily have to be cases where the individual has been adjudicated as incompetent.
It sounds like it may very well include anyone that has ever sought psychiatric help for something as benign as depression after the loss of a loved one.
Of course, no one wants guns in the hands of psychotics or other severely disturbed people, but this could be VERY dangerous new territory!
The devils in the details, just like in the CIR bill.
On the surface it sounded reasonable: when actually read, it was appalling.
In theory this is a good idea, but remember it is a government employee who determines your sanity. This will be really easy to abuse.
All you need is a anti-gun shrink to say you’re unfit to carry a gun and all yours are gone.
Don’t think this is exactly what they are going to do with this.
“Oh, you don’t like shrinks, sir? Why not? That’s a little paranoid, don’t you think?”
You bet your can there will be people losing guns who are not mentally unstable. They will paint you as one. How do you refute it? If you’re not a qualified professional shrink, who’s word is going win?
We’re so much better than the old Soviet Union, and from recent reports the New Russia. We will only violate your rights and take away your guns, they put you away, as “mentally incompetent”, for opposing the “correct thinking” of the Party, whichever Party it might be.
1. The leftists and mainstream media have been unusually quiet for the last two major public shootings (VA Tech and the church shooting last week). Their normal modus operandi is to use incidents like these to trumpet ‘reasonable gun control’. Oddly, there have been no dem/handgun control press conferences demanding new laws. That should make one pause and wonder why the quiet response - but respond they will. They realize from the past couple elections that ‘gun control’ is NOT a winning issue. They will try to take advantage of the situation legislatively or through government fiat (read: regulations).
2. Don’t support a regulation or law just because you have faith (diminishing though it may be) that the current administration and executive branch appointees will safeguard your rights. Imagine the worst case that Hillary! or another marxist will someday wield those powers and ask yourself you are willing to sacrifice your God given rights to a communist authority.
3. At some point, you may be considered by the powers-that-be as crazy if you aren’t a card carrying member of Code Pink, Moveon.org, NAMBLA, or some like organization. “If you don’t support our agenda, you must be insane!” and therefore declared too unstable to possess weapons.
Food for thought.
Kit.
It'll probably be Judge, rather than a shrink. But they can be just as anti arms rights. After all, just owning a gun shows paranoid tendencies, yes? Add to that opposition to the latest Big Brother scheme to transfer your hard earned dollars to those who didn't earn them, and well, you're clearly delusional and danger to others, namely the judge and the parasite class.
It may be right it will be a judge but is he going to give more weight to you or the shrink? There are also a lot of anti-gun judges? Think they want to take the chance of letting a nutball keep a gun and be haunted by that guy going on a shooting spree? Nope the safer course of action is to take yours away.
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