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Gun control back as national issue
Star-Telegram ^ | Aug. 12, 2007 | ANNA M. TINSLEY

Posted on 08/15/2007 11:29:17 AM PDT by neverdem

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"Gun control back as national issue"

Sounds to me like wishful thinking on the part of the leftmedia and their statist kin.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

41 posted on 08/15/2007 12:33:24 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Mr J

Desperate Libs Beat Anti-Gun Drum (minorites and women hit hardest)


42 posted on 08/15/2007 12:35:43 PM PDT by woollyone (whyquit.com ...if you think you can't quit, you're simply not informed yet.)
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To: Cuttnhorse

SHHHUUSSSSHHHH!


43 posted on 08/15/2007 12:35:47 PM PDT by devistate one four
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To: untrained skeptic
Some of the things he has described as straw purchases aren't necessarily straw purchases either.

LOL, the libs are between a rock and a hard place on this one. The 'things' he describes as straw purchases are black and hispanic women buying guns. Nothing like a little racial profiling from a lib.

44 posted on 08/15/2007 12:37:12 PM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution ? 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: neverdem
“Meanwhile, Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama is criticizing the Bush administration for not banning assault rifles after nearly three dozen children were killed with them in Chicago during the past year.”

What? 36 kids killed with just in Chicago by “assault weapons” in one-year? Sorry, I call bull$hit on that...AP, please provide me with a reliable and unbiased source for that statistic. (My guess, “they” included gang bangers less then 21 as “kids”)

45 posted on 08/15/2007 12:37:32 PM PDT by Towed_Jumper (I faithfully fart toward Mecca five times a day.)
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To: Joe Brower
It has always been a national issue, at least since the NFA of '34. We need to be trying to get rid of some, not just stopping them.

As for the libs, what was the public reaction to the VA Tech shootings?

We bought more guns!

D'oh!

46 posted on 08/15/2007 12:38:02 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Puppage
This pretty much sums up my attitude about owning firearms:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_QjEL0uUgo

47 posted on 08/15/2007 12:38:18 PM PDT by Cuttnhorse
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To: neverdem
Meanwhile, Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama is criticizing the Bush administration for not banning assault rifles after nearly three dozen children were killed with them in Chicago during the past year.

Obama Calls for Permanent Assault Weapons Ban to Combat Inner-City Violence

Nearly three dozen Chicago students have been killed this year, according to Chicago Public Schools. (by assault weapons? or just gangstas?) (snip)

He said the government needs to permanently reinstate an assault weapons ban and close regulatory loopholes that protect unscrupulous gun dealers.

Obama attacks violence in Chicago

"A couple weeks ago, cops found an AK-47 near a West Side school," he said. "That type of weapon belongs on a battlefield, not on the streets of Chicago." (oh, well then there is at least one "assault weapon" in Chicago but apparently no one was shot with it. oh wait, it was just a semiauto copy. never mind.) (snip)

"In Room 104 at Avalon Park Elementary School, an empty chair is pushed against the wall in memory of Quinton Jackson, the 8th grader who used to sit there, and who was stabbed to death a few months ago," he said. (hmm, well that one was stabbed to death. not exactly an "assault weapon". perhaps the 8th grader sat in elementary school three years too long and someone wanted his seat?)

Teen playing dice is shot, killed

An 18-year-old man was fatally shot overnight while playing dice near his West Side home, Chicago police said. (snip)

The victim, Robert Thomas, was playing dice on the corner with several other people when a gunman in black clothing approached and fired on the group, striking Thomas in the neck and back, Officer Marcel Bright said. The gunman was last seen running south on Lawler. (running with his..."assault weapon"? not too conclusive there.)

Bright said no one else was struck and that the killer was at large this afternoon. He said witnesses who were with the victim were not cooperating with police. (but why are these school children victims not cooperating with police? they must be so traumatized, that's it)

Gang's memorial event ends in fatal shooting

The deadly confrontation came after members of the La Raza street gang gathered in the 4400 block of West Cortez Avenue for the memorial shortly after midnight Saturday, prosecutors said. A quarrel allegedly led to a fistfight.

"After the fistfight ended, [Hernandez] produced a handgun and opened fire on the group, striking one victim in the head and a second victim in the left leg," Assistant State's Atty. Katherine Malloy said in court. (a handgun. well we can call it an "assault weapon".)

Father sues police over son's shooting

Family of teen, police question chase, shooting

Protests, probe follow fatal shooting by cops

As of July 12, the Office of Professional Standards investigated 21 police-involved shootings in 2007 involving 23 people, 10 of whom died, Bond said. In 2006, the office investigated 26 police-involved shootings, 10 of which were fatal, she said.

(if the police shot some of them, does that means police are carrying "assault weapons"? and why would police shoot these peaceful, innocent school children? golly, gee, it sounds like Obama and Jesse should just ban Chicago police.)

Sorry for the rambling collection of Chicago news clippings but I was trying to find the 36 children killed by "assault weapons" Obama mentioned. I couldn't find them. But I'm sure if they take all my firearms away, these peaceful Chicago school children will be safe.

48 posted on 08/15/2007 12:43:05 PM PDT by Sender (A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man.)
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To: neverdem

I wish I could remember who was telling me (and no it wasn’t you) that gun control was a dead issue even after the Democraps won big in Kongress, “because it was a loser issue for them”


49 posted on 08/15/2007 12:43:40 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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To: Cuttnhorse
Not really. I bought an almost new Springfield Armory XD 9 at a show and when I asked about waiting time, required paper work, receipt, bill of sale, the seller told me that since he wasn't a business, but a private citizen who rented table space at a gun show, none of this was necessary and I walked out the door with my new purchase. On the way out, carrying my new purchase in it's plastic case, people in several booths asked me whay I had to sell or trade. I was very surprised that it was so easy as I was under the impression there was more to it.

Don't get to excited about it, up until Kennedy was shot we could go into a store and buy a gun and walk out with it right them. We could order guns by mail, you simply signed a statement that you were over 21 and whammo! your gun arrived in the mail.

Crime was lower, kids never shot each other in school and citizens could defend themselves at will. Every county in CA let you have a CCW if you passed the background check, you could carry a handgun openly(in a holster of course)and long guns also where ever you wanted(in CA).NYC was the only large city with oppresive gun laws and they had the highest crime rate.

The gun laws they have now haven't stopped, or even slowed down, crime, all they have done is make it harder for citizens to own firearms, and of course that is their real intent and purpose regardless of what anti-gun fanatics say.

50 posted on 08/15/2007 12:44:55 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Sender

Osam bin obama is a lying SOS. SO what else is new?


51 posted on 08/15/2007 12:45:29 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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To: neverdem; All

This explains a letter in the Florida Bar News newspaper this month.

A wacko left wing lawyer was quoting Handgun Control Inc. and pushing the BS talking points of gun control.

hand guns are for killing people.

properly registered guns are ok. (FL does NOT have gun registration ala chicago or NYC) Second amendment is for sport. blah blah blah.

However this is in a newspaper for lawyers so we need a lawyer who is second amendment familiar to write to the Florida Bar Newspaper at mkillian@flabar.org


52 posted on 08/15/2007 12:47:44 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: calex59
We could order guns by mail, you simply signed a statement that you were over

Sigh. Could also buy 20 and 37 mm mail order. Solothurns and Lahtis and ammo galore.

53 posted on 08/15/2007 12:48:18 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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To: neverdem

If you let the dems take over the presidency as well as the senate and congress yo uWILL lose your ability to have guns and AMMO.


54 posted on 08/15/2007 12:53:55 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: Cuttnhorse
Interestingly, I'm not a citizen of the state where I bought the pistol...was just visiting, but that didn't seem to bother anyone.

That's probably a federal violation. You can only purchase a handgun in your own state of residency. Any other purchase has to be shipped to an FFL in your state for pickup.

From your description of the seller, it was probably a safe transaction from the original owner. A private seller should at least check your driver's license to make sure he isn't illegally transferring a handgun to a non-resident. The seller also has a legal exposure. Absent the declarations on the Form 4473 and/or a NICS check, the seller doesn't know whether the buyer is a "prohibited person".

Your successful transaction was probably in violation of a GCA68 statute. Not something you want to repeatedly bring up in conversation lest it attract attention to you and the seller.

55 posted on 08/15/2007 12:56:29 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: RightWhale
Recall the excessively vehement gun control talk coming from the Left in 1994 as they anticipated their overwhelming victory in national elections, and the subsequent Right victory attributed to Newt but really due to gun grabbers.

As much as I would like to agree with you, the left walked into an at least U shaped ambush, and wound up surrounded, defeated in detail in 1994. Besides overreaching on gun control, they had Hillary care rejected, and passed one of the biggest tax increases after Clinton promised a middle class tax cut in 1992. The Contract with America didn't hurt either.

That said, I don't remember when the left pushing gun control has hurt the GOP since 1994. That's why I'm dubious about McCain, Romney or Giuliani getting the GOP nomination, and that's why I have to change my registration to vote in the GOP primary in NY. I've always been registered Conservative in NY.

56 posted on 08/15/2007 12:58:05 PM PDT by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: Myrddin; Cuttnhorse

>You also don’t know if that firearm has been used in the commission of a crime prior to your purchase. Absent any paperwork to prove the date on which you became the owner, you might well become a suspect in possession of a firearm used in a criminal act.<

I would hope that you have enough brains to write up a bill of sale and put both signatures on it when you make a private sale or purchase.

That protects both parties.


57 posted on 08/15/2007 12:58:48 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share.")
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To: Cuttnhorse

That’s fantastic. Thank you for that..


58 posted on 08/15/2007 12:59:28 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: B4Ranch

Wise suggestion.


59 posted on 08/15/2007 1:04:33 PM PDT by glock rocks (Please pray every day for our Patriot Armed Forces fighting to protect our way of life.)
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To: B4Ranch

really good word!

CYA!


60 posted on 08/15/2007 1:06:57 PM PDT by woollyone (whyquit.com ...if you think you can't quit, you're simply not informed yet.)
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