Posted on 08/15/2007 6:17:10 PM PDT by Sleeping Freeper
HUNTINGTON, Utah (ABC 4 News) - Equipment used in the Crandall Canyon Mine rescue efforts picked up "significant noise activity" early Wednesday evening. Mine officials say the sound came from the area where a third hole broke through the mine Wednesday.
"Don't read too much into this," said mine owner Robert Murray. Mine officials say the noise is not necessarily an indication of life in the mine, but are saying it is a reason to continue hope.
Officials expect to get video back from the third hole by 9:00 p.m. Air sample readings are expected around 11:00 Wednesday night.
A fourth hole is being drilled about 520 feet away from the third hole.
Let’s just hope.
The update they had on FOX didn’t say much.
Will continue to pray . . . this is as they say reason to hope . . . but it’s been so long.
Thanks for post. I had given up hope for these souls.
Regards
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This thing seems to go on forever. God help them and keep them.
News wires starting to pick up the news....
Can’t post USA Today, but they have a more detailed report...
More here:
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/08/15/utah.mine/
Wow... wouldn’t that be something. It hasn’t been looking good for these guys.
Pray, pray that these are the tapping sounds of the living.
They’re recalling Pearl Harbor this week. Remember the tapping inside the capsized battleships, and the lives that were saved.
Could someone please explain to me why there is no communication method for communicating with the men without drilling a hole? Surely there must be some technology.....
Prayer
Its that solid rock. Just too dense to let anything through. I think every deep mine should have a couple of communication holes drilled every so often. Just awide enough for a wire.
Watching the ISS this week, I’ve wondered the same thing. We can communicate with spacecraft and vessels beneath the ocean, so why not for miners?
You would think-------!!
Why couldn’t engineers create one of those bank tube thingies for miners?
I have been watching this story closely. Both my grandpas were coal miners back in more dangerous times. I know today there is a chance these guys can be found alive, although this chance slims every day.
I can’t get these men out of my mind. I live very near where there has been many coal mine disasters, like the one I pasted below. In fact, coal mining is still a major industry here in my county (northeastern TN) and there was a coal miner killed here last week, but it didn’t make the national news.
Pray for these men and their families.
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Why is it taking so damn long to get this done? Where is the Army Corps of Engineers? You know if some Mexican migrants got stuck in a smuggling tunnel, that Bush would bring the entire Federales to bear to get them out.
I heard about that and I am praying. God bless those families.
CNN just had a pretty good live interview with Robert Murray (the mine owner). It was on Anderson Cooper’s show. Ithink it repeats after midnight. (I normally watch FOX, but they don’t seem interested in the story.)
Yeah, there probably is - but it would cost money.
My understanding is that this mine owner had been cited for over 300 violations of safety codes in the last couple of inspections, and had made little to no effort to fix the problems (I have no idea if the safety problems in the citations is related in any way to the current emergency). But obviously, the owner isn't too concerned with safety or spending money on some sort of communication technology for such an emergency...
I’ve thought about this and have concluded its just very hard to communicate underground.
In cave-ins wires get severed. Radio doesn’t work well under ground, light beacons don’t penetrate rock.
On the surface, under water, or in space there are lots of options. Not so easy down below.
Most of the negative stuff you hear is from union, this is a non-union mine. Noticed that FNC seems to be having some peeing match with mine Owner, from all the “Fox ladies” that don’t have a clue that FNC has covering this story.
Yes....why don't they have GPS systems on them when they enter these caves???
Becuase GPs is line of sight and under cover (much less hundreds of feet of rock) you’d not get a signal.
Communication is impossible because you’d need an ultra-low frequency transmitter of which it would be too difficult to equip miners with to make it worthwhile. Tapping is the most feasible way.
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One of the “violations” was not emptying trash cans at the end of a shift. If I wasn’t so tired and lazy tonight I could Google up the entire list.
Son told me there was breaking news on the miners on CNN. Owner was being very careful with what he said. Fox was rerunning O'Reilly. Fox is really, really bad when it comes to breaking news.
Actually there is undergound radio
http://radiolocation.tripod.com/Transverter/Transverter.html
and see
http://www.qsl.net/kq6xa/ Hams do it all the time.....
Oh. Thanks much for the response.
i know... i keep thinking the same thing... there's got to be someone who could come up with something that would work...
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