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Forget Biofuels - Burn Oil And Plant Forests Instead
New Scientist ^ | 8-16-2007 | Catherine Brahic

Posted on 08/16/2007 2:22:11 PM PDT by blam

Forget biofuels - burn oil and plant forests instead

19:10 16 August 2007
NewScientist.com news service
Catherine Brahic

It sounds counterintuitive, but burning oil and planting forests to compensate is more environmentally friendly than burning biofuel. So say scientists who have calculated the difference in net emissions between using land to produce biofuel and the alternative: fuelling cars with gasoline and replanting forests on the land instead.

They recommend governments steer away from biofuel and focus on reforestation and maximising the efficiency of fossil fuels instead.

The reason is that producing biofuel is not a "green process". It requires tractors and fertilisers and land, all of which means burning fossil fuels to make "green" fuel. In the case of bioethanol produced from corn – an alternative to oil – "it's essentially a zero-sums game," says Ghislaine Kieffer, programme manager for Latin America at the International Energy Agency in Paris, France (see Complete carbon footprint of biofuel - or is it?).

What is more, environmentalists have expressed concerns that the growing political backing that biofuel is enjoying will mean forests will be chopped down to make room for biofuel crops such as maize and sugarcane. "When you do this, you immediately release between 100 and 200 tonnes of carbon [per hectare]," says Renton Righelato of the World Land Trust, UK, a conservation agency that seeks to preserve rainforests.

Century-long wait

Righelato and Dominick Spracklen of the University of Leeds, UK, calculated how long it would take to compensate for those initial emissions by burning biofuel instead of gasoline. The answer is between 50 and 100 years. "We cannot afford that, in terms of climate change," says Righelato.

(Excerpt) Read more at environment.newscientist.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: biofuels; carbon; energy; forests; oil

1 posted on 08/16/2007 2:22:21 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Fickle ocean current foils climate modellers
2 posted on 08/16/2007 2:23:57 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam
Climate tipping points loom large
3 posted on 08/16/2007 2:25:26 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam

Although this makes perfect sense to me, I almost must say GOOD GRIEF. It took how much money and how many geniuses to come up with this common-sense conclusion? Reality is that oil works pretty dadgum well. Until a truly substantial development in alternative fuel technology comes along, all the rest is nothing but feelgood symbolism over substance, business as usual for liberals.

MM (in TX)


4 posted on 08/16/2007 2:26:30 PM PDT by MississippiMan (Behold now behemoth...he moves his tail like a cedar. Job 40:17)
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To: blam

This will be suppressed as heresy!..............


5 posted on 08/16/2007 2:26:44 PM PDT by Red Badger (All I know about Minnesota, I learned from Garrison Keilor..................)
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To: blam

bump


6 posted on 08/16/2007 2:29:56 PM PDT by VOA
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To: blam; Red Badger
"We cannot afford that, in terms of climate change,"

Hurricane Dean is a stalkin'

Earthquakes are a rockin'

Volcanoes are a poppin'

Vick is a coppin

Padilla ain't gonn be walkin'

and its all Bush's fault

Cause al Gore is a talkin'

7 posted on 08/16/2007 2:45:48 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do it, but we're gonna getcha)
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To: MississippiMan

Ban all biofuels based on food and land than can grow food.

A hot day in August is not proof of global warming.


8 posted on 08/16/2007 2:47:12 PM PDT by depressed in 06 (Bolshecrat, the amoral party of what if and whine.)
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To: blam

Believe it!
And don’t be a Corn ‘Denier’.


9 posted on 08/16/2007 2:48:18 PM PDT by iamright ('96 Fatboy; '06 Ultra Glide)
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To: blam

Good luck getting this idea past the enormous power of the ADM/farm-state lobby.


10 posted on 08/16/2007 2:51:31 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: blam
"We cannot afford that, in terms of climate change," says Righelato.

It wouldn't make any difference in terms of climate change as far as emissions go, but it would make a really big difference on the forests.
11 posted on 08/16/2007 3:01:46 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: blam
I can eat corn but I can’t eat coal or oil shales, two sources of hydrocarbons this nation has in greater abundance than all of Arab OPEC has in the form of crude oil. [1] We can convert every last kernel of our ocean of corn and it only covers about 1/8th of our liquid fuel needs for surface vehicles alone, and not a drop will power any jet airplane.

Further, the only reason we burn as much corn as we do now is that we are taxing someone else (which in the end is always a tax on all of us) to make the price seem lower than gasoline. We are thus paying for ethanol twice: in the tax levy and in higher prices for everything that corn touches as a food.

Even worse, this subsidy is enforced by armed federal agents, which just shows how little we treasure liberty today. If we really were the “land of the free”, government would only recommend what people should do and it would show the highest respect for the lives of its citizens by reserving the use of armed agents only for matters of the utmost importance.

[1] Office of the Secretary of Defense Clean Fuels Initiative presentation (pdf)

http://www1.eere.energy.gov/femp/energy_expo/2005/pdfs/t_s4c.pdf

12 posted on 08/16/2007 3:11:33 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: blam

To any Freeper who can answer this, I’d appreciate an answer.

I was wondering (after reading an essay by George Orwell on this very topic) why no one seems to be thinking of peat as a fuel alternative?

Besides the mess, of course.

Peat fires burn pretty nicely and evenly, and I should imagine peat would be cheaper to produce and purchase than oil, coal or natural gas (I’m assuming), and would make a very nice winter fuel in some places.

Flame away, but I’m simply asking anyone who might have more knowledge of the subject than I for some information.

Thank you!


13 posted on 08/16/2007 4:05:57 PM PDT by Wombat101 (Islam: Turning everything it touches to Shi'ite since 632 AD...)
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To: blam

Heretics! Apostates! Deceivers! How dare these “scientists” give us facts.

The Great Prophets Al Gore, Nancy Pelosi, and Leonardo DiCaprio and the righteous call for burning these de facto witches at the stake! Oh, wait that would be polluting....


14 posted on 08/16/2007 4:12:53 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims.)
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To: depressed in 06

Screw that, let the market decide what is grown. Ban biofuels based on food my RIA.


15 posted on 08/16/2007 4:13:51 PM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: blam
In the case of bioethanol produced from corn – an alternative to oil – "it's essentially a zero-sums game,"

NOT TRUE ... given the substantial price rise on ANY product touched by corn or corn byproducts, corn-based bioethanol is produced at a NET LOSS.

16 posted on 08/16/2007 4:44:43 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Brian J. Marotta, 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub, (1948-2007) Rest In Peace, our FRiend)
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To: blam

Does this mean that we can finally cut down those forests that were killed by the bark beetles and replant them?


17 posted on 08/16/2007 6:40:32 PM PDT by Otaku6
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Biofuels are less dense. At one time 27 percent of agricultural land was used for transportation fuel - horses - and the vehicles did their own refining.

Growing fuel is stupid to start.


18 posted on 08/16/2007 11:22:03 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: blam

Trees- The Renewable Resource.

Whatever happened to that?


19 posted on 08/18/2007 9:05:08 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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