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Two medical helicopters enroute to Utah mine after report of new collapse
MSNBC ^ | 8/16/2007 | MSNBC

Posted on 08/16/2007 6:55:18 PM PDT by Smogger

Two medical helicopters enroute to Utah mine after report of new collapse

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: collapse; crandallcanyon; genwalmine; mine; rescue; utah
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To: Semper911

I do not see him the way you do. He seems very caring and exhausted. I think he is a scrapegoat. Mines have accidents. They never will be accident free. Never. It is like thinking a police officer will never be shot. BLAME<BLAME<BLAME. I would truly hate to be in his shoes. I feel sorry for him and everyone involved. What do you want him to do?????


21 posted on 08/16/2007 7:13:38 PM PDT by therut
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To: yorkie
Utah had three seismic events just today. It's had 17 in the last week.

Just where do you get your information?

22 posted on 08/16/2007 7:14:04 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: glock rocks

If these are rescue folks injured, you can bet they will ratchet down the pace of the rescue efforts so as not to jeapordize any more rescuers trying to save those original miners. Hope and pray all works out.


23 posted on 08/16/2007 7:15:37 PM PDT by umgud
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To: roses of sharon
Oh no, that’s it, its over.

We don't know anything yet. It may not be over for the trapped guys. Of course, it also could be worse than it was, with rescuers now in trouble. But we don't know.

24 posted on 08/16/2007 7:15:59 PM PDT by Semper911 ("We can stand here like the French, or we can do something about it." -Marge Simpson)
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To: yorkie
...He keeps talking about the rescue is being compromised by more seismic activity....

They've been experiencing a lot of "bounces" during the rescue.

From the Department of Labor website:

...Wednesday, August 15, 8 p.m. EDT
The third borehole intersected the mine at 12:11 p.m. EDT. A microphone was placed into the hole but no sounds were detected. Workers are still injecting compressed air into the mine through the second borehole. Three bounces occurred at 1:15 p.m. EDT, 1:30 p.m. EDT and 1:40 p.m. EDT. No injuries resulted from the bounces. Provisions for a fourth borehole are currently underway. There are 45 people underground including, 3 from MSHA...

They've had to evacuate the rescuers on several occasions due to bounces.

25 posted on 08/16/2007 7:15:59 PM PDT by FReepaholic (Boomchakalakalaka Boomchakalakalaka)
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To: elizabetty

Give him a few minutes.

He has to find the cameras first.

Every time I see him on TV the first thing I think of is Boss Hogg.


26 posted on 08/16/2007 7:16:08 PM PDT by JRochelle (“Never trust a man who makes toys in a land where children are forbidden.”)
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To: muawiyah

From Du and the Daily KOS and the liberal commie media. Too bad many of our troops are gulliable. DU just hates the guy and he is guilty of murder cause he owns a mine. Simple. Aganist anything Capitalist. Well lets just quit mining. Do without coal. Think that would be a good idea. Silly.


27 posted on 08/16/2007 7:17:22 PM PDT by therut
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To: muawiyah

Here’s a report from seismologists...

http://seismo.berkeley.edu/~peggy/Utah20070806.htm

“The results of our analysis show that most of the seismic wave energy is consistent with an underground collapse, however the cause of the mine collapse is still unknown.”


28 posted on 08/16/2007 7:17:53 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: bikerMD
"That sucks real bad. Sounds like rescuers are being rescued now."

Shades of the old song, 'Big John.' (and they never reopened that worthless pit...)

29 posted on 08/16/2007 7:18:28 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: glock rocks

TANKS for the ping,,,Sounds like another rock-burst,,,
Just blatherin’ on FOX...


30 posted on 08/16/2007 7:18:42 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Semper911
That mine owner dude has been the most annoying, arrogant bastard. I hate that he is the spokesman for the entire operation. I am sure all who work for him can’t stand him either; they must be cringing every time he takes the mic.

Maybe so but anyone would have to be on the defense because of the shitbags in the media. From the word "go" they've been about blame.
31 posted on 08/16/2007 7:18:52 PM PDT by Jaysun (It's outlandishly inappropriate to suggest that I'm wrong.)
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To: umgud

I don’t see how it could be any other than the rescue team. Heroes all.

Five ambulances have left the main entrance. How sad.

Prayers up for our neighbors in central Utah.


32 posted on 08/16/2007 7:19:34 PM PDT by glock rocks (Please pray every day for our Patriot Armed Forces fighting to protect our way of life.)
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To: therut

I agree with you.

it is so easy to blame...and of course “the evil capitalist.”

I see the owner as very caring, and exhausted. You are right, mines have accidents, other occupations have accidents...and we just want everyone and everything to function perfectly and if it ( or they) don’t Sue them!

How babyish...


33 posted on 08/16/2007 7:19:41 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (We need a troop surge in Philly and Newark!)
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To: Smogger

I heard on some radio show this afternoon that some of the rescuers had quit because of unsafe conditions. Don’t know if that’s true or not.


34 posted on 08/16/2007 7:20:14 PM PDT by FReepaholic (Boomchakalakalaka Boomchakalakalaka)
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To: Semper911

“That mine owner dude has been the most annoying, arrogant bastard. I hate that he is the spokesman for the entire operation. I am sure all who work for him can’t stand him either; they must be cringing every time he takes the mic.””

The mine owner is the Chuckie Schumer of the mining industy.
Never get between him and a camera.


35 posted on 08/16/2007 7:20:24 PM PDT by JRochelle (“Never trust a man who makes toys in a land where children are forbidden.”)
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To: Semper911
I don’t care that he has money, I care that he is an arrogant bastard.

He reminds me of someone I once worked for, who could also give the impression of being very arrogant, but actually was not bad to work for.

I'm really impressed that the owner (1) has not left the site and says he will not until the miners are out (he's not a spring chicken and must be exhausted) and (2) he insists that the families must be informed first so that they get information from him and not from the press.

36 posted on 08/16/2007 7:21:15 PM PDT by Amelia
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To: therut
What do you want him to do?

I just sense that he is not genuine and he is always trying to cover his ass. Maybe I am wrong about him, but it's just how he strikes me. Not too bright and responsible for way more than he can handle.

I could be all wrong about him though. I just wish he would have used a kind and compassionate spokesman to handle the situation.

37 posted on 08/16/2007 7:22:23 PM PDT by Semper911 ("We can stand here like the French, or we can do something about it." -Marge Simpson)
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To: Semper911

“That mine owner dude has been the most annoying, arrogant bastard. I hate that he is the spokesman for the entire operation. I am sure all who work for him can’t stand him either; they must be cringing every time he takes the mic.”

I was commenting on the same thing to my bro-in-law today and he informed me that the owner was a big time Republican and gave lots of money. Hadn’t heard or read that!


38 posted on 08/16/2007 7:22:44 PM PDT by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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To: FReepaholic

What’s a bounce?


39 posted on 08/16/2007 7:23:09 PM PDT by oldvike
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To: Semper911
Your right, there is always hope, sorry I’m just so sad, those rescuers were afraid, and they went in anyway.
40 posted on 08/16/2007 7:23:25 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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