Posted on 08/16/2007 7:56:17 PM PDT by crusher
The anchor is right. I HATE him / her / he / she / it/ or Muslim thing, legal or illegal.
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I've heard him mention a number of times how dangerous it is. He thinks people are exposed to disinformation (ironic,isn't it?), and that they are too naive and easily swayed to figure it all out.
You have a lot of enemies Jim. Or should i say we have a lot of enemies. I am certain that there are those who used to post here more than willing to feed O’Reilly and the Left media posts which they see as the dreaded “hate speech”. I have no doubt of that whatsoever.
actually that does answer your question.
True internet forums like FR, are an anathema to television personalities like BOR. You don’t have to pay to be on FR (but donations are gratefully accepted), however OReily is just using the net as another revenue source. BOR wants information dissemination to be a toll road. (pay for newspaper, pay for cable news, pay to hear HIS spin on the news) But all one way communication from on high.
He is old media making the same mistal all old media makes. One way communication from a news sources is dead.
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Exactly right.
To: livius "I seriously thought I would stop visiting it because of the anti-immigration crowd, which spammed every thread, regardless of topic, with rhetoric that obviously was based purely on a dislike of Hispanics."
I think the core issue is sovereignty. I will take this opportunity to express to my conservative friends that they have done a very poor job of expressing their core concerns about illegal immigration but the conservatives I know are NOT haters and you will do well not to throw this label around if you value your free speech. 517 posted on 08/17/2007 10:47:24 AM EDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something. (Fred/Newt '08))
Actually, it does matter, Madison, because your post was addressed to Earthdweller, and anyone who doesn’t bother to trace back the posts would immediately attribute that comment to Earthdweller, and thus would form an innaccurate opinion of her character, and her views (no-one who actually knows her through FR would think this, but others not familiar with her could). I think this would be akin to bearing false witness and defamation of character (libel), and I think you should apologize to her, instead of blowing it off so calousely... It was irresponsible of you to post this as you did, at the very least you should have properly cited the author of the quote if you intended to comment on it to Earthdweller. Please do so in the future so as not to cause this type of situation and harm your fellow FReepers.
Incidently, I agree with you, madison, that it is very frustrating trying to correct people who make statements like livius did. (Livius, I think it would’ve helped if you put the part of realizing these people were most likely trolls or operatives in front of your other statement or worded it another way. (o: )
I know you can defend yourself EarthDweller (and very well, too!), and I hope you don’t mind my jumping in here. I just think it was incredibly rude of madison to blow off your calling his/her attention to his misdirection, like they did. Just trying to help “self-police” the site!!! LOL ((hugs, Earthdweller)) OK, I’m going to take a break from this thread for a while as I’m getting rather anal-retentive over this! And, I’m a little too talkative today. LOL
It was difficult to tell where the post originated from. I thought the media was being quoted. Usually when people post a quote they either set it off or put it in italics. I was making the point of the statement as still being a lie NOT NOT NOT where it came from.
I was just POSTING, for heaven's sake, I wasn't going after her on purpose. Anal retentive? Ya think?
I am human. I have my bad days too, and sometimes I would like to have a post back. I have never had a post pulled that I am aware of (Mr. Robinson would know or others would know), but I am human, and I have flaws. Each of US, sometimes has a terribly bad day, though, and the volume of posts I believe is overwhelming for the Mods, yet the Mods do a Great Job. Thank You, Mods, each of you help make Free Republic the Great Site it is, and we (the posters) are Grateful.
Again, Thank You for your compliment. I will wear your compliment as 'A Badge of Honor'.
You mean anti-ILLEGAL immigration don’t you?
When the chips were down, FR jumped into the fray with both feet and our members and readers flooded the senate with emails and phone calls. And along with talk radio and hundreds of other independent grassroots conservative groups doing the same thing, we turned the tide against the atrocious amnesty bill and saved the country.
The lib media knows how effective we are when united and firing for effect so it’s now determined to shut us down. It’s an all out war against conservative free speech and this was an opening shot across the bow.
Well, my friends, we are now at war. We don’t apologize, we don’t back down, we don’t bow down, we don’t surrender. We are independent grassroots conservatives and we fight like hell for our rights! And if the libs and RINOs don’t like it, they can kiss my ass!
Free speech. Use it, or lose it!
High fives and a great big AMEN!! to Jim Rob and FR!!!
Wooohooooo!!!
I stand with you, Sir. Free Speech, Use It, or Lose It!
I, and many others here, dare I say MOST, am behind you 110%, Jim.
And you are very welcome!
Damned straight!!! We’re with ya, JR. We’re all in this together. And no, we will never back down!
Damned straight!!! We’re with ya, JR. We’re all in this together. And no, we will never back down!
I already provided one. You already know where to look for others.
You made the allegation. Prove your claims. If you can. Or, perhaps your definition of "hate" is a little deranged, to use your own words.
I'm really not interested in conversing with you on this topic any longer.
I get it. You want to make accusations and give us all a talking-to about our very bad and hateful behavior; but when asked for links to back up your claims, you gather up your jacks and go home.
That'll convince people that your claims are valid, I'll bet.
“That’s our fault.”
That is pure collectivism, and totally out-of-line with the principles of Individual Liberty, Freedom, and Conservatism!
How can it possibly be anyone’s else’s fault other than the poster him- or herself??? And, ascribing blame to ALL of us here at FR??? C’mon... We celebrate individualism here, don’t we????
It’s not like we have ANY control over any other person who posts here. There is no magic monitoring device we can use that alerts us whenever someone is ABOUT to post something over the line! It’s not like we have mind-control alerters that allow us to see into the head of people sitting in front of their keyboards! I don’t know of any THOUGHT police out there that could assist us, do you???
We only have the ability to control our own words, and respond when someone goes over the line. BECAUSE??? We are INDIVIDUALS and NOT a collective. We are not the BORG!
Suggesting that we are responsible for another posters actions is like — well frankly, it’s just like when the Muslims blamed the Pope for their violent reaction to his opinions! it’s a tactic used by people who wish to avoid their own responsibility. Saying it is OUR fault that people post that way here is — gosh I can’t even get my mind around finding this kind of thinking on FR.
How about placing the blame where it REALLY lays in the whole anti-illegal-immigration threads — the illegal alien criminals, the government who ignored the problem, and the politicians who wanted to ramrod through an amnesty that would’ve hurt our country and weakened our laws. Not to mention the fact that it was our OWN REPUBLICAN politicians who were quoted day after day on the MSM calling us bigots and rascists. It’s no wonder people responded in kind, frankly — they were very angry and for good reason. And, as I and others have pointed out repeatedly so MANY of those people on the anti-illegal-immigration threads who posted the most outrageous things were trolls, saboteurs, activists, and political operatives sprinkled with a few deranged individuals who actually were racists (no-one is denying they exist in our world). But, I suppose that is our fault too — that the world hasn’t gotten rid of all racism by now! That too, is perpetuated by our government and various organizations who wish to further the goals of their own ethnicity or race over that of another (this includes, but is not limited the white supremacy groups... it also includes groups like the NAACP, the ADL, the ACLU, etc... etc...). MLK, Jr. would be turning over in his grave if he saw what is happening to his dream!!! But, I suppose that is OUR fault as well that these groups exist, and we’ve allowed it to go on for so long... As far as I’m aware the people who daily fight and speak out against racism and the like number many more than the ignorant few who really are racists and bigots.
We face racism in our society on a daily basis. FR is just a microcosm of what we face in our WORLD — the good, the bad, and the ugly! I can’t honestly believe you would blame your fellow FReepers for the problems of the whole world, which is what you are doing by saying it is OUR fault that people come here and post their insane comments...
What do you propose — shutting the site down so that there is not any risk of this happening anymore? Because that is the ONLY way to prevent these things from happening and that is EXACTLY what the people who are saying these things about FR are trying to do.
Thanks! If you feel so responsible for the “hatred” expressed by trolls, etc... then perhaps you shouldn’t post here anymore so you don’t have to feel so guilty about it. I for one do not share in your collectivist attitude, and I don’t blame myself for others actions that are reprehensible, and that I (nor any other FReeper) have no control over!
Those are colleague’s turf. LOL.
Sometimes we include all in a given post . . . Wasn’t exactly the focus of this thread.
Exactly. Soros and the Rodham-Clintonistas are setting the table for a major 1st Amendment showdown.
There's just too much dirt on Our Lady of Chappaqua out there. Those who have it need to be silenced or disgraced if she's to be elected.
Okie-dokie, then. It's becoming clear to me... you want us all to censor our speech according to the leftist/liberal/Democrat definition of acceptable speech.
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