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We have broken speed of light
Telegraph ^ | 08/16/2007 | Nic Fleming, Science Correspondent

Posted on 08/17/2007 8:19:28 AM PDT by poiuqwer

A pair of German physicists claim to have broken the speed of light - an achievement that would undermine our entire understanding of space and time.

According to Einstein's special theory of relativity, it would require an infinite amount of energy to propel an object at more than 186,000 miles per second.

However, Dr Gunter Nimtz and Dr Alfons Stahlhofen, of the University of Koblenz, say they may have breached a key tenet of that theory.

The pair say they have conducted an experiment in which microwave photons - energetic packets of light - travelled "instantaneously" between a pair of prisms that had been moved up to 3ft apart.

Being able to travel faster than the speed of light would lead to a wide variety of bizarre consequences.

For instance, an astronaut moving faster than it would theoretically arrive at a destination before leaving.

The scientists were investigating a phenomenon called quantum tunnelling, which allows sub-atomic particles to break apparently unbreakable laws.

Dr Nimtz told New Scientist magazine: "For the time being, this is the only violation of special relativity that I know of."


TOPICS: Germany; Technical
KEYWORDS: lightspeed; physics; speedoflight; yesterday
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The speed of light is a consequence of spacetime geometry. It's similar to the law that says no angle in a triangle may exceed 180 degrees. There's not a policeman out there enforcing the law, and oh, by the way, we've found a sneaky way to have a 181 degree angle in a triangle, but we didn't get caught. Either the experiment is erroneous (e.g. cold fusion), or the experiment is outside the scope of Relativity, which is possible since the experiment seem to be in the scope of quantum physics instead.
1 posted on 08/17/2007 8:19:29 AM PDT by poiuqwer
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To: poiuqwer

So the Germans broke it. Now they need to fix it.


2 posted on 08/17/2007 8:20:09 AM PDT by TommyDale (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: poiuqwer

Yesterday’s thread is actually today’s thread sent through the Time Machine and the many excellent posts yet to be written have already appeared.


3 posted on 08/17/2007 8:21:20 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: poiuqwer

The speed of light was broken long ago...by H. Rhodam-Clintoon-Dumbocrat NY...in regard to the time it takes her to open her mouth and a lie to come out.


4 posted on 08/17/2007 8:21:30 AM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis.")
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To: TommyDale

Please wait five seconds for my message to appear.


5 posted on 08/17/2007 8:22:01 AM PDT by Nick Thimmesch
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To: poiuqwer

Beam me up Scottie.


6 posted on 08/17/2007 8:22:48 AM PDT by Always Right
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Did they transmit useful information faster than light in vacuo?


7 posted on 08/17/2007 8:23:30 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo (Skip the Moon, go for Mars)
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To: TommyDale

Here we go .......... again..........


8 posted on 08/17/2007 8:23:52 AM PDT by Red Badger (All I know about Minnesota, I learned from Garrison Keilor..................)
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To: poiuqwer

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2007-08/ns-lst081607.php

More info.


9 posted on 08/17/2007 8:24:02 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools.)
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To: poiuqwer

Causality problems anyone?


10 posted on 08/17/2007 8:28:32 AM PDT by Tallguy (Climate is what you plan for, weather is what you get.)
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To: Fitzcarraldo
Did they transmit useful information faster than light in vacuo?

No.

11 posted on 08/17/2007 8:29:28 AM PDT by Ichneumon (Ignorance is curable, but the afflicted has to want to be cured.)
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Sounds like a variant of the old experiment whereby if an atom emits two photons travelling in opposite directions. inducing a change in direction of one photon seemingly instantaneously causes the same change on the other photon yet their rate of separation is 2x the speed of light.


12 posted on 08/17/2007 8:29:32 AM PDT by fso301
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To: Always Right

"Beam me up, Scottie!

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13 posted on 08/17/2007 8:30:02 AM PDT by TommyDale (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: poiuqwer
Wow. Try talking your way out of that speeding ticket!
14 posted on 08/17/2007 8:31:31 AM PDT by Pablo64 (Ask me about my alpacas!)
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To: Tallguy
rediculous ridiculous
15 posted on 08/17/2007 8:33:21 AM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Tallguy
Causality problems anyone?

Don't be rediculous.

16 posted on 08/17/2007 8:33:28 AM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Nick Thimmesch

“I’m so fast I can flip the light switch and get into bed before the room gets dark”


17 posted on 08/17/2007 8:34:01 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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You are distorting the time-space manifold. Cease postal inversion while the temporal infundibulum remains intact.


18 posted on 08/17/2007 8:35:20 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: poiuqwer

Einstein lied
Photons died


19 posted on 08/17/2007 8:36:45 AM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: in hoc signo vinces

Je$$ie Jack$son breaks the speed of light whenever a camera in in the neighborhood.


20 posted on 08/17/2007 8:38:28 AM PDT by hophead ("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
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