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Maybe the price of metals has more of the price jump than the war does. All alloys have risen termendously in the last year, I about choked on the price of new brass last time I priced it.
1 posted on 08/17/2007 11:45:30 AM PDT by Abathar
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To: Abathar

Glad I can reload everything I shoot. Especially since I have a lot of various kinds of bullets stockpiled.


2 posted on 08/17/2007 11:49:33 AM PDT by jim_trent
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First, most police departments do not practice enough with their most important tool.

Second, military ammunition is in short supply, but for someone to say they wait months is laughable and indicative of incompetence in that agency.

Lastly, reloading is a viable alternative. Departments can hire private individuals to reload ammunition for them at a greatly reduced cost. Of course, that flies in the face of most liberal police departments.


3 posted on 08/17/2007 11:51:36 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
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I think there are multiple factors for the ammo price hike and shortages. The UN is screwing the surplus ammo market, and the metal prices are affecting all sectors of the market. I doubt if the increased military demand is actually causing shortages of .38 Special, except in cases where factories are switching production to military calibers.

The ammo price hikes that affect me personally are the shortages of cheap 8mm Mauser and 9mm Luger. A few years ago, the cheapest 8mm was .05/rd. Those days are gone forever, and bulk 9mm surplus is a thing of the past.


6 posted on 08/17/2007 11:55:24 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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Bush’s fault.


9 posted on 08/17/2007 11:56:54 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Fred Dalton Thompson - POTUS 44)
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The police don’t need ammo.

We should withdraw them off the streets and into the police stations.

After all, we have a quagmire out there, we are losing 150 police officers a year on the streets of America and we are not seeing any improvement, we have lost the war on crime, so it is time to bring the police home, we cannot allow any more deaths to occur.

Perhaps the government should cut off the funding for their police vehicles..


10 posted on 08/17/2007 11:57:52 AM PDT by Wil H (Islam translates to "submission", not "peace" - you can figure out the rest.)
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An Associated Press review of dozens of police and sheriff's departments found that many are struggling with delays of as long as a year for both handgun and rifle ammunition.

Hell, I can pump out 500rds of handgun ammo an hour and about half that in 12GA ammo. I don't have a problem getting it.

12 posted on 08/17/2007 12:00:21 PM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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Bought some Winchester 12GA shells at out local community yard sale today. 4 bucks a box. Not to bad.
16 posted on 08/17/2007 12:04:11 PM PDT by 4yearlurker (All comments now being monitored by BOR. He's looking out for you!)
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Will these help?

18 posted on 08/17/2007 12:04:47 PM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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None of the departments surveyed by the AP said they had pulled guns off the street,

They need to have a gun "buy-back" if they want to get those guns off the street.

/sarc

31 posted on 08/17/2007 12:24:26 PM PDT by Disambiguator (What's the temperature, Albert?)
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supplies of .40-caliber handgun bullets and .223-caliber rifle rounds have gotten so low

.40 cal is not a military caliber. They can't blame the war.

Other than kicking down doors and murdering 90 year old women in cold blood, why do the police need .223? The AR-15 and it's variants can easily be fitted with an adapter that will allow target qualification using .22LR ammo. I qualified using this ammo twice when I was active duty.

35 posted on 08/17/2007 12:30:26 PM PDT by CholeraJoe ("I shall need the clankers.")
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Maybe the price of metals has more of the price jump than the war does. All alloys have risen termendously in the last year, I about choked on the price of new brass last time I priced it.

War and the welfare state are inflationary. The Republicans are expanding both.

41 posted on 08/17/2007 12:46:08 PM PDT by AdamSelene235 (Truth has become so rare and precious she is always attended to by a bodyguard of lies.)
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I've got to call BS on this article.

Metal shortages causing prices to go up, sure. Maybe metal shortage translating into shortages of ammo, maybe.

But the article ADMITS that the military gets most of its rounds from a specific manufacturer. How could that affect other, commerical manufacturers? They're not all getting their raw materials from the same sources. And if they are, then they need to be looking for other sources.

I'm wondering about the billion round number. That's a thousand million. Strikes me as awfully high, but I don't know what training requirements are. What about military stockpiles - or have we burned through them already?

43 posted on 08/17/2007 12:46:56 PM PDT by wbill
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Just another anti war hit piece. There is no shortage of ammo anywhere except in this ignorant article. Just like the article about the sneakers for guns program in Orlando. They say someone turned in a “semi automatic machine gun”. As rare as those are I’d love to see one. They are all idiots.


52 posted on 08/17/2007 1:33:23 PM PDT by tightwadbob (There is no right way to do the wrong thing. I'm for Fred)
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"QUICKNESS ON THE DRAW?"


55 posted on 08/17/2007 1:37:57 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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And Women, Minorities and children affected the most.


57 posted on 08/17/2007 1:55:35 PM PDT by JayAr36 (There are no stupid questions, unless asked by a reporter.)
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The pinch is blamed on a skyrocketing demand for ammunition that followed the start of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, driven by the training needs of a military at war, and, ironically, police departments raising their own practice regiments following the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

I call BS. 911 was almost 6 years ago. The Afghan and Iraq wars are about 4 years old.

It took less time than this to build up hardware of all types during WW2.

59 posted on 08/17/2007 2:02:24 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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BS.. I just ordered 500 rounds of .223... Russian .223.

.40 S&W... not many troops using that...


61 posted on 08/17/2007 2:09:03 PM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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Horsehockey! Ammo is plentiful.


69 posted on 08/17/2007 5:45:09 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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This whole article is a load of crap. 5.56, 7.62 x 39, 45, 9mm are all readily available and after prices spiking about 6 mos. ago more affordable. I just picked up 100 rds. of Remington .38 spl +p for $25 at Wallyworld and .38 spl IS NOT a preferred military or police round. 9mm and .45 which are, are cheaper!


74 posted on 08/17/2007 8:45:57 PM PDT by Eagles6
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Yeah, I would prefer ammunition be available to deployed forces, private citizens, and then police.


75 posted on 08/17/2007 9:06:16 PM PDT by Natchez Hawk (What's so funny about the first, second, and fourth Amendments?)
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