Skip to comments.Lessons in newsroom decorum [Seattle lib gets it]
Posted on 08/17/2007 7:25:07 PM PDT by sionnsar
That was me.
I was one of the people who cheered in The Seattle Times news meeting Monday when it was announced that presidential adviser Karl Rove had resigned.
The reaction to this bit of national news made national news ...
... The hallowed halls of journalism that I was privileged to enter more than 20 years ago are looking more and more like the New York subway. The walls covered in bloggers' scrawl...
That's not how we do things at this newspaper.
Here, every morning, some 20 smart, educated, well-read and diverse people gather around a table and talk. We offer opinions on how stories were approached, written and presented. We say what worked, what didn't, and how we can do it better next time.
I wasn't admonished on Monday; as a columnist, people expect me to have opinions.
I cheered in that meeting because I think Karl Rove is a dangerous man who has done enough whispering in President Bush's ear.
... But I shouldn't have. It lacked consideration for other people in the room who may have other views about Karl Rove and George Bush, and held their tongues. It also flew in the face of the standard of objectivity that we as journalists try to uphold every day. Worse, it validates every fear people have about the media.
All these years, and I'm still learning.
And still passionate. I just need to choose my spots.
Nicole Brodeur's column appears Tuesday and Friday. Reach her at 206-464-2334 or firstname.lastname@example.org.
(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...
You happened to catch her in a good mood, DFU.
i often wonder when i’m reading the
lost angeles times if they realize that their
radical leftism is offensive to many potential readers.
i know many doctors and lawyers who refuse to read the times because
they resent the emotionalism of the times.
HA....I just realized.....in saying the above, she is admitting they are "working" the news....instead of REPORTING the news!
She forgot to add: And if I had the chance, I would do it all over again, because I’m a dingbat no brain liberal and my boss made me write this article.
“He doesn’t get it,he just got caught being who he is,a lib.”
Sort of like...”In fact, I did have an inappropriate relationship with Miss Lewinsky.”
“You happened to catch her in a good mood, DFU.”
Since these left wing wackos are so anxious to free Mumia, they should also seek to free people who have been unjustly confined even longer, like...like, Sirhan Sirhan Sirhan.
She doesn’t have the intellectual longitude for such a task. The Times, of course, has the latitude. Crazy, but not stupid.
Garden variety Seattle lefty. Everyone Else Should Take The Rail. It’s almost the equivalent of smallpox-infested blankets.
Okay, the challenge has been sent to her. Let’s see what she does.
Yes, I read this article about 3 hours ago and I’m still reeling about that “standard of objectivity” thing. Any journalistic “objectivity” died long ago, probably with Washington.
At best, she’ll acknowledge being rhetorically-b-slapped for about an hour online. Then the Times will take it down.
Despite being dinosaurs, they still know how to circle the wagons. Thanks for putting up a small fight, DFU.
Unfortunately, she is not just a liberal. She also pretends to be a journalist. She is a self descrbed liberal, journalist, and columnist. The problem is defining where one ends, and the other starts. In particular is the dividing line between columnist and journalist. I don't believe one can be both. I also believe that anyone pretending to be both, cannot be considered to be an objective journalist.
I also sent her a link to this thread. Lets see if she stops in to comment.
“It also flew in the face of the standard of objectivity that we as journalists try to uphold every day.”
They have failed in that mission decades ago.
I would have been shocked if they didn’t cheer.
Maybe this person is seeing the world as it is for a brief moment for the first time.
When we first moved to Washington, we had the Seattle PI delivered because the Times was not available in Whatcom County. I cancelled to paper, less than a year later, because in the middle of a front page article on hurricane Andrew, the writer stated that the only reason the President Bush was visiting Florida was because he had family there. The the writer went on to state that people who live in disaster prone areas such as California, the mid-west or Florida, should not be eligible for federal disaster funds.
That’s the kind of biased opinion that appears in the Times, now, too.
In order to be objective you must be willing to listen to the views of those who disagree with you. The fact that she acknowledges there may have been other people in the room who held their tongues means she knows her liberal comrades do not wish to listen to those voices. That's why any conservative in the room is keeping their thoughts to themselves. They know there is no objectivity but they still believe they have standards.
Dead media talking.
She forgot "dishonest, deceptive, deceitful, self-serving, etc.
And still passionate. I just need to choose my spots.
Of course Nicole! You wouldn't want the American people to recognize you as the cheerleading little sophomoric dweeb that you are.
The statue was constructed by Slavic artist Emil Venkov under commission from the Soviet and Czechoslovak government. While following the bounds of his commission, Venkov intended to portray Lenin as a bringer of revolution, in contrast to the traditional portrayals of Lenin as a philosopher and educator. His Lenin marches ahead fiercely, surrounded by torrid flames and symbols of war.
Venkov's work was completed and installed in Poprad, Czechoslovakia (now Slovakia) in 1988, shortly before the fall of Czechoslovak communism during the 1989 Velvet Revolution. In the mass demonstrations that shook the Soviet bloc during the fall of communism, the statue was toppled.
Lewis Carpenter, a resident of Issaquah, Washington teaching in Poprad at the time had it brought to the United States, financed via mortgaging his home, at a total cost of $41,000. Days after returning to the U.S., Carpenter was killed in a car accident, leaving the statue in the hands of his estate, lying in his backyard. The family contacted a local brass foundry, who offered to move it off the property. In 1995 the statue was first placed in Fremont at the corner of N 34th St & Evanston Ave N, one block south of a salvaged Cold War rocket fuselage, another artistic Fremont attraction. It now stands two blocks northward at the intersection of Evanston Ave N, N 36th St, and Fremont Place, outside a Taco del Mar and an ice cream parlor.
Sounds like a properly 'respectful' spot for it, doesn't it? Unless it brings indigestion to the ice cream and Taco eaters!!
Why in the world do we need a statue of Lenin in the USA other than hanging a "Beware of Hillary" sign on it?
Keep going up on the price Carpenters, some Democrat may finally buy it, lol.
Interesting story Milhous!
In all fairness, Fremont is a self-deprecating, artsy-type neighborhood. The statue is meant to be somewhat self-mocking and tongue-in-cheek.
What we need is Right-leaning statuary, somewhere like West Seattle.
Idea Appendice to that thought: William Rufus DeVane King, for whom King County was originally named. Vice President of the USA when Washington attained statehood.
Slaveholder at one time. “King County” is now, of course, officially named in honor of Dr. MLK, Jr.
Last trivial pile-on. President at the time was Franklin Pierce, for whom Pierce County is named.
Tacoma was the original City of Destiny, with the best ports, access, and infrastructure. How Seattle got to be the region’s featured city is an interesting milieu of historical events just crashing into each other.
Bush bad. Rove bad. Newspaper good. Journalists good.
Me educated. Me diverse.
Actually, Ms. Brodeur is a columnist, which means she can make inane assertions with no supporting facts whatsoever.
Horse manure. Please don’t tell me you buy this scumbag’s phony baloney “confession”?
Personally, I couldn’t care less if they bleat like drunken chimpanzees in the newsrooms of every dying, socialist Democrat publication in the country. Wow. Surprise, surprise. And Brodeur promises to cheer silently rather than aloud from now on? Who cares?
Thanks for the ping.
What a joke these people are. And they do not even realize it.
” 20 smart, educated, well-read and diverse people gather around a table and talk...”
Nice job with the extra fake news...or is it fake extra news ?
It’s the old “Extra, Extra, Read All About It” fake news, lol, and ‘Davie’ fits right in too!
Thanks for the ping!
Okay, so where did this sophomoric solipsist wind up: I remain a Leftist first-and-foremost--I just need to be discreet.
Nothing's changed since my high school journalism teacher four decades ago: liberals rule; conservatives drool.
Please dispatch Triumph the Insult Dog to that newsroom to poop on those twenty smarmy pukes.
After 20 years of being a journalist I would have thought Ms Brodeur would have been mature enough to keep her opinions to herself. Guess not!
Lol, this thread feeds right back into the “They Can’t Multiply Either” thread! These ‘20 smart, educated’ people are probably products of the school system of recent years!
I’m shocked. She was the one that basically implied that the least she could do for President Clinton was service him for keeping abortion legal. I’m paraphrasing, but it was something to that effect.
They Cant Multiply Either thread!
or add, divide...spell...
[or add, divide...spell...]
Or discipline. Common sense has been lost.
Lol, you made the connection to this thread too! I don’t think some of the teachers liked my comments on your thread George, but they are seeing things from the present time and not ‘how it was’- or should be again!
My thought exactly. Who does she think she's kidding?
The older teachers before the NEA took over likely have a dramatically different view than the newbies. Retired military who are now teaching likely are exceptions too.
Apparently, many new young teachers do not have a degree in a ‘hard’ field, rather their degree is in education. It would be best to major in something ‘hard’ then minor in education for the certificate.
Also blocking experienced professional with professional degrees ( without the teaching psych classes ) is not helpful.
[PhilDragoo pinged me to both threads.]
That was good!
Over the years I have heard that a teaching degree is now one of the easiest to attain. That doesn’t speak well for knowledge, does it?
Lack of discipline, good morals and political correctness has been our downfall.
It is too bad she can’t remove the crap se writes from the newspaper too! Her mea culpa is as phony as a three dollar bill!
Shell get over it and this mea culpa will cleanse her liberal soul so the next time she wont feel bad.
Thank you so much for the information!
Ten from a list from sixty two *particularly egregious examples* of MSM malpractice is only enough to start the pot boiling. I won’t be surprised if the list doesn’t grow by leaps and bounds throughout the day.
Thanks for the ping Baynative, lots of good info there!