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Lessons in newsroom decorum [Seattle lib gets it]
The Seattle Times ^ | 8/17/2007 | Nicole Brodeur

Posted on 08/17/2007 7:25:07 PM PDT by sionnsar

That was me.

I was one of the people who cheered in The Seattle Times news meeting Monday when it was announced that presidential adviser Karl Rove had resigned.

The reaction to this bit of national news made national news ...

... The hallowed halls of journalism that I was privileged to enter more than 20 years ago are looking more and more like the New York subway. The walls covered in bloggers' scrawl...

That's not how we do things at this newspaper.

Here, every morning, some 20 smart, educated, well-read and diverse people gather around a table and talk. We offer opinions on how stories were approached, written and presented. We say what worked, what didn't, and how we can do it better next time.

I wasn't admonished on Monday; as a columnist, people expect me to have opinions.

I cheered in that meeting because I think Karl Rove is a dangerous man who has done enough whispering in President Bush's ear.

... But I shouldn't have. It lacked consideration for other people in the room who may have other views about Karl Rove and George Bush, and held their tongues. It also flew in the face of the standard of objectivity that we as journalists try to uphold every day. Worse, it validates every fear people have about the media.

All these years, and I'm still learning.

And still passionate. I just need to choose my spots.

Nicole Brodeur's column appears Tuesday and Friday. Reach her at 206-464-2334 or nbrodeur@seattletimes.com.

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: daveboardman; karlrove; liberalmedia; mediabias; seattletimes
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To: Baynative

Thanks for the ping!


81 posted on 08/18/2007 9:01:36 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: potlatch; devolve; Baynative; ntnychik; dixiechick2000; Milhous; abb; Grampa Dave; george76

Okay, so where did this sophomoric solipsist wind up: I remain a Leftist first-and-foremost--I just need to be discreet.

Nothing's changed since my high school journalism teacher four decades ago: liberals rule; conservatives drool.

Please dispatch Triumph the Insult Dog to that newsroom to poop on those twenty smarmy pukes.

82 posted on 08/18/2007 9:01:57 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: sionnsar
"The hallowed halls of journalism that I was privileged to enter more than 20 years ago....

After 20 years of being a journalist I would have thought Ms Brodeur would have been mature enough to keep her opinions to herself. Guess not!

83 posted on 08/18/2007 9:08:46 PM PDT by Spunky ("Everyone has a freedom of choice, but not of consequences.")
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To: PhilDragoo; devolve; ntnychik; dixiechick2000

Lol, this thread feeds right back into the “They Can’t Multiply Either” thread! These ‘20 smart, educated’ people are probably products of the school system of recent years!

Good graphic.


84 posted on 08/18/2007 9:10:05 PM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_))
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To: sionnsar

I’m shocked. She was the one that basically implied that the least she could do for President Clinton was service him for keeping abortion legal. I’m paraphrasing, but it was something to that effect.


85 posted on 08/18/2007 9:17:27 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: potlatch; PhilDragoo

“They Can’t Multiply Either” thread!

or add, divide...spell...


86 posted on 08/18/2007 9:42:37 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

[or add, divide...spell...]

Or discipline. Common sense has been lost.

Lol, you made the connection to this thread too! I don’t think some of the teachers liked my comments on your thread George, but they are seeing things from the present time and not ‘how it was’- or should be again!


87 posted on 08/18/2007 9:51:56 PM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_))
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To: Montanabound
Don’t worry - there weren’t any people in the room with other views.

My thought exactly. Who does she think she's kidding?

88 posted on 08/18/2007 9:59:34 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: potlatch; PhilDragoo
PhilDragoo pinged me to both threads.

The older teachers before the NEA took over likely have a dramatically different view than the newbies. Retired military who are now teaching likely are exceptions too.

Apparently, many new young teachers do not have a degree in a ‘hard’ field, rather their degree is in education. It would be best to major in something ‘hard’ then minor in education for the certificate.

Also blocking experienced professional with professional degrees ( without the teaching psych classes ) is not helpful.

89 posted on 08/18/2007 10:03:26 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: sionnsar
"the standard of objectivity that we as journalists try to uphold every day"

Sorry, Nicole, but we all know that is total b.s. You and your kind have as much to do with objectivity as Iran's Mullahs have to do with scientific rigor. Sure, we all have opinions, but in the leftist MSM it is continually assumed that politically correct opinions can always be substituted for fact, and that feel good politics is a good substitute for reasoning about evidence and principles.
90 posted on 08/18/2007 10:10:20 PM PDT by Enchante (Reid and Pelosi Defeatocrats: Surrender Now - Peace for Our Time!!)
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To: george76

[PhilDragoo pinged me to both threads.]

That was good!

Over the years I have heard that a teaching degree is now one of the easiest to attain. That doesn’t speak well for knowledge, does it?

Lack of discipline, good morals and political correctness has been our downfall.


91 posted on 08/18/2007 10:20:10 PM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_))
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To: saganite

It is too bad she can’t remove the crap se writes from the newspaper too! Her mea culpa is as phony as a three dollar bill!


93 posted on 08/19/2007 7:00:49 AM PDT by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: saganite

She’ll get over it and this mea culpa will cleanse her liberal soul so the next time she won’t feel bad.

exactly


95 posted on 08/19/2007 7:03:38 AM PDT by chasio649
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To: Baynative

Thank you so much for the information!


96 posted on 08/19/2007 8:05:48 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Baynative

Ten from a list from sixty two *particularly egregious examples* of MSM malpractice is only enough to start the pot boiling. I won’t be surprised if the list doesn’t grow by leaps and bounds throughout the day.


97 posted on 08/19/2007 8:11:26 AM PDT by B4Ranch ( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share.")
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To: Baynative

Great post.


98 posted on 08/19/2007 8:54:20 AM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: Baynative; devolve; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; dixiechick2000

Thanks for the ping Baynative, lots of good info there!


100 posted on 08/19/2007 12:11:13 PM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_))
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