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Lessons in newsroom decorum [Seattle lib gets it]
The Seattle Times ^ | 8/17/2007 | Nicole Brodeur

Posted on 08/17/2007 7:25:07 PM PDT by sionnsar

That was me.

I was one of the people who cheered in The Seattle Times news meeting Monday when it was announced that presidential adviser Karl Rove had resigned.

The reaction to this bit of national news made national news ...

... The hallowed halls of journalism that I was privileged to enter more than 20 years ago are looking more and more like the New York subway. The walls covered in bloggers' scrawl...

That's not how we do things at this newspaper.

Here, every morning, some 20 smart, educated, well-read and diverse people gather around a table and talk. We offer opinions on how stories were approached, written and presented. We say what worked, what didn't, and how we can do it better next time.

I wasn't admonished on Monday; as a columnist, people expect me to have opinions.

I cheered in that meeting because I think Karl Rove is a dangerous man who has done enough whispering in President Bush's ear.

... But I shouldn't have. It lacked consideration for other people in the room who may have other views about Karl Rove and George Bush, and held their tongues. It also flew in the face of the standard of objectivity that we as journalists try to uphold every day. Worse, it validates every fear people have about the media.

All these years, and I'm still learning.

And still passionate. I just need to choose my spots.

Nicole Brodeur's column appears Tuesday and Friday. Reach her at 206-464-2334 or nbrodeur@seattletimes.com.

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: daveboardman; karlrove; liberalmedia; mediabias; seattletimes
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"So you bet I cheered at that meeting. I cheered because I thought I could.

But I shouldn't have. It lacked consideration for other people in the room who may have other views about Karl Rove and George Bush, and held their tongues. It also flew in the face of the standard of objectivity that we as journalists try to uphold every day. Worse, it validates every fear people have about the media."
Bingo! Nicole, if most liberals were like you we'd be *discussing* these things more and not always shouting past each other. (Not that I don't think you're wrong, but let's talk! Sometimes surprising results come from the latter activity.)
1 posted on 08/17/2007 7:25:09 PM PDT by sionnsar
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2 posted on 08/17/2007 7:28:05 PM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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3 posted on 08/17/2007 7:28:54 PM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: sionnsar

Reeks of an assignment article....by her Editor.


4 posted on 08/17/2007 7:29:16 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Being Challenged Builds Character! Being Coddled Destroys Character!)
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To: sionnsar

Here, every morning, some 20 smart, educated, well-read and diverse people gather around a table and talk.

And all twenty think and believe exactly the same way.


5 posted on 08/17/2007 7:30:53 PM PDT by Patrick1
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I cheered in that meeting because I think Karl Rove is a dangerous man who has done enough whispering in President Bush’s ear.

... But I shouldn’t have. It lacked consideration for other people in the room who may have other views about Karl Rove and George Bush, and held their tongues. It also flew in the face of the standard of objectivity that we as journalists try to uphold every day. Worse, it validates every fear people have about the media.

A tiny twinge of conscience. She’ll get over it and this mea culpa will cleanse her liberal soul so the next time she won’t feel bad.


6 posted on 08/17/2007 7:31:04 PM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions----and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: sionnsar

Dear Nicole, the most dangerous man in America right now is Hillary.


7 posted on 08/17/2007 7:31:21 PM PDT by irishtenor (There is no "I" in team, but there are two in IDIOT.)
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To: sionnsar

I give her credit for honesty.


8 posted on 08/17/2007 7:31:42 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (Ron Paul: the candidate of cowardice and appeasement.)
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To: sionnsar
Here, every morning, some 20 smart (liberal), educated (liberal), well-read (liberal) and diverse (token blacks present) people gather around a table and talk. We offer opinions on how stories were approached, written and presented. We say what worked (stirred anti-GOP feelings), what didn't (too blatant or got caught lying), and how we can do it better next time.

The smug pretentiousness just oozes off the page.

9 posted on 08/17/2007 7:32:56 PM PDT by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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To: sionnsar

The New York subway is an island of sanity compared to the Seattle Times.


10 posted on 08/17/2007 7:35:41 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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I cheered in that meeting because I think Karl Rove is a dangerous man who has done enough whispering in President Bush's ear.

Gosh, you not only were able to issue a confession, an apology and then your public written opinion of Karl Rove.......all in one stupid article!

How clever......

11 posted on 08/17/2007 7:35:56 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Farewell Turd Blossom, ya done good!)
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What’s so funny about the Times is that the far left think they’re a band of neocons working surreptitiously to undermine Glorious Progressive Seattle.

Here’s a hint, hippies: Conservatives aren’t in the business of losing money.

I bit on a subscription and cancelled the next day. Berating them was worth the three bucks I lost.


12 posted on 08/17/2007 7:37:11 PM PDT by IslandJeff (Proverbs 29)
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“I cheered in that meeting because I think Karl Rove is a dangerous man who has done enough whispering in President Bush’s ear.”

OK, Mr. Smart, Educated, and Well-Read... you’re a journalist... you’re job is to report the truth...

If Karl Rove IS dangerous (like you “think”) please provide us with your exclusive report that PROVES that. Use your oh-so-copious journalistic talents to blow the doors off of the White House and expose exactly HOW Karl Rove is “dangerous.”

Waiting...

Still waiting...

What’s that? You’re too busy drinking kool-aid to come out and play? Fine. I’ll keep waiting...


13 posted on 08/17/2007 7:38:10 PM PDT by bolobaby
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gah - “YOUR JOB”

(typed that too fast)


14 posted on 08/17/2007 7:38:48 PM PDT by bolobaby
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Here, every morning, some 20 smart, educated, well-read and diverse [GOP Poet's emphasis] people gather around a table and talk.

This person sure thinks well of him/herself. The arrogance and haughtiness of the media never ceases to amaze me. I would love to hear this person's definition of DIVERSITY. Oh wait. I don't think I need to. I already know it and it does not include diversity of political ideals and ideas that include conservative or ultra conservative thinking and opinions.

The well-read part means they probably got up and all read the same liberal rags and books, patted themselves on the back at how smart and well educated they are as they are all in agreement that it is global warming and Bush's fault and that abortion is good. Pro life bad. Yep. Now THAT is a DIVERSE, smart, educated group of folks. PA-LEEEZEEEEE. Not.

16 posted on 08/17/2007 7:39:43 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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I cheered ... But I shouldn't have. It lacked consideration

A great argument for why liberals should not be allowed to carry weapons. Doing something stupid like cheering this event indicates a lack of self-control. Regretting it later, in a public column, indicates a lack of maturity. Those two characteristics combine to make a dangerous mind.

17 posted on 08/17/2007 7:40:33 PM PDT by Bernard (The Fairness Doctrine should be applied to people who follow the rules to come to America legally)
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If I were king for a day, Joel Connolly would see this thread.

The People’s Izvestia needs to be naked and humiliated in public. The Times? WTF cares?


18 posted on 08/17/2007 7:43:45 PM PDT by IslandJeff (Proverbs 29)
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***Here, every morning, some 20 smart, educated, well-read and diverse people gather around a table and talk.***

And when we get finished bragging, we devote the time to trying to put down a man much smarter than we are.


20 posted on 08/17/2007 7:48:36 PM PDT by kitkat (I refuse to let the DUers chase me off FR.)
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