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Plan B: Enforce the law ...
chicagotribune.com ^ | August 20, 2007 | Editorial

Posted on 08/20/2007 6:48:44 AM PDT by 3AngelaD

...Sunday afternoon's arrest of immigration activist Elvira Arellano isn't a result of the federal government's new campaign against employers who hire illegal workers. But the abrupt arrival of law-enforcement agents outside a Los Angeles church -- after Arellano had spent a year claiming sanctuary at a church in Chicago -- is one more provocation for accelerating a strikingly divisive national debate...

No capture of a mother being separated from her son is a pleasure to behold. But the facts of Elvira Arellano's story make her difficult to view as a victim. She came to the U.S. illegally from Mexico and worked on a cleaning crew at O'Hare International Airport until she was arrested during a post-Sept. 11, 2001, security sweep at this nation's airports.

It turned out she had entered the U.S. illegally once before -- and had been arrested and deported, only to return. She also had used a fake Social Security number.

Arellano sought to avoid another deportation -- and since 2003 has received three stays. Her supporters called for a moratorium on all deportations until Congress passed an immigration reform bill that would help her. That unfortunate request no doubt hurt her cause more than it helped: ...this country isn't in the business of suspending the enforcement of a statute while Congress mulls whether to change it. She has gotten numerous breaks, but she remains subject to U.S. law ...

That arrest does, though, qualify as just the sort of highly visible consequence that stronger enforcement of this country's immigration laws will create...

For now, though, that law is abundantly clear. And Elvira Arellano made choices that invited the feds to enforce it.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


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KEYWORDS: illegalimmigration; sanctuary
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This started out with a liberal whine, then did a 180 degree turn. Also interesting is this poll.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/elvirapoll,0,1301426,post.poll

1 posted on 08/20/2007 6:48:46 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: 3AngelaD
I'm actually interested in the use of the term "strikingly divisive national debate".

It seems to me that the national discussion of this topic has been unitive, not divisive.

Massive majorities which cut across all the normal societal division lines have been demonstrated to support enforcing the law, deporting lawbreakers, and sealing the border.

In what way is that "divisive"?

2 posted on 08/20/2007 6:51:21 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Trails of troubles, roads of battle, paths of victory we shall walk.)
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To: 3AngelaD
No capture of a mother being separated from her son is a pleasure to behold.

Wrong. This arrest was a pleasure to behold.

3 posted on 08/20/2007 6:54:48 AM PDT by gridlock (A Liberal will lick the boot on his neck if he thinks the other boot is on a Conservative's neck.)
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To: 3AngelaD
"No capture of a mother being separated from her son is a pleasure to behold."

EXCEPT when she's a criminal beach who came here after being deported once, 9.1 mos pregnant for the express purpose of popping out a kid to "anchor" her here.

Deport the damn kid too while we're at it!

4 posted on 08/20/2007 6:55:29 AM PDT by Redbob (WWJBD - "What would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: Jim Noble
Massive majorities which cut across all the normal societal division lines have been demonstrated to support enforcing the law, deporting lawbreakers, and sealing the border.

Mrs. Gridlock (AKA My Favorite Liberal) and I disaggree on almost everything. But we agree on this.

5 posted on 08/20/2007 6:56:53 AM PDT by gridlock (A Liberal will lick the boot on his neck if he thinks the other boot is on a Conservative's neck.)
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To: Jim Noble

The media needs it to be divisive. That way, it will stew and brew and fester, and they can report on the ill will and chaos that results.

Think about it. If everybody was happy and fullfilled, the media support would drop off dramatically.

To a great extent, they make their money by praying on the fears and discontent that people have.


6 posted on 08/20/2007 6:58:11 AM PDT by djf (America welcomes immigrants! Sadly, America welcomes crimmigrants even more...)
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To: 3AngelaD
"There will be some unhappy consequences for the economy," Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff warned. That could include labor shortages, pricey produce, jobs lost to other countries and up to $7 billion a year in lost taxes from immigrant workers.

Does anybody, anywhere believe that this will not save us a heck of a lot more than $7 Billion in welfare benefits?

Besides, if it only costs 7 Billion Bucks to make us a nation of laws, it is money well spent.

7 posted on 08/20/2007 7:00:47 AM PDT by gridlock (A Liberal will lick the boot on his neck if he thinks the other boot is on a Conservative's neck.)
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To: 3AngelaD
So when will the owners of the church in Chicago be prosecuted? When will said church lose its tax-exempt status?

If this started happening, then you would see far fewer churches breaking the law to help illegal aliens.

8 posted on 08/20/2007 7:03:11 AM PDT by pnh102
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To: 3AngelaD

So she sponged off a church for a year and thought she was going to be greeted in illegal LA like a hero. The gov doesn’t like it when you skip out of a court date.

Sanctuary in a church? Didn’t that go out of style 400 years ago?

I’m so glad the government up a stop to this.


9 posted on 08/20/2007 7:07:32 AM PDT by mefistofelerevised
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To: djf
To a great extent, they make their money by praying on the fears and discontent that people have.

I'm sure you meant preying, since praying has nothing to do with the news business.

10 posted on 08/20/2007 7:09:55 AM PDT by Edgerunner (If you won't let the military fight your battles, you will have to. Keep your powder dry...)
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To: 3AngelaD
Other industries are feeling the squeeze. There aren't enough crab pickers in Maryland (Good! More for me! I pick my own! Maryland crabs should be for the restaurant/tourist trade. The state makes a lot more money on restaurant crabs than they do on canned crab) or horse walkers in Saratoga (Boo FReepin' hoo). Tourism bureaus all over the country are fretting about understaffing (and unemployment bureaus around the country are fretting about the lack of entry-level jobs. Whatever could be the solution to these twin problems?). Fewer immigrants will mean fewer landscapers (mow your own damn lawn), construction workers (pay a living wage), dishwashers (pay an American kid $10/hr) and pizza delivery drivers (the nation screeches to a halt!). Americans who want to hire a housekeeper or nanny might have to search harder, and pay more (like people getting paid more is a bad thing?)


11 posted on 08/20/2007 7:10:59 AM PDT by gridlock (A Liberal will lick the boot on his neck if he thinks the other boot is on a Conservative's neck.)
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To: Redbob
Deport the damn kid too while we're at it!,

If she had been a fit mother she would have taken her son with her.

12 posted on 08/20/2007 7:11:01 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: gridlock

I know the director of the Illinois Minutemen, and she said that, since Sept. 11, 2001, illegal aliens have killed an average of 23 Americans per day. If more law-breakers are deported, that will save many American lives.


13 posted on 08/20/2007 7:12:50 AM PDT by PhilCollins
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To: Jim Noble

It is divisive because it is not a liberal stance. All liberal stances are moderate and fair. Anything in the middle or right is ‘controversial’ and ‘divisive”. Fixing social security is controversal, but leaving it be to go bankrupt is not. Monitoring terrorist by telephone is controversial, but letting people from muslim states into the country through the southern border is not. When the media are only surrounded by leftists, their faulty beliefs become the norm.


14 posted on 08/20/2007 7:15:06 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: 3AngelaD

Geraldo is coming up now on Laura Ingraham. May she spank him soundly!


15 posted on 08/20/2007 7:15:58 AM PDT by JRochelle (“Never trust a man who makes toys in a land where children are forbidden.”)
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To: 3AngelaD

“this country isn’t in the business of suspending the enforcement of a statute while Congress mulls whether to change it.”

The country isn’t? Man, I’d have to say we’ve been doing a pretty good job of “faking” it then !!!


16 posted on 08/20/2007 7:17:57 AM PDT by Obie Wan
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To: JRochelle

Sorry, I don’t do Geraldo. When he comes on Fox I change the channel as a matter of policy, because everything that comes out of his mouth is BS. I am waiting to read the newspaper story about Michelle Malkin, Ingraham and Coulter joining forces to beat the poop out of him and wipe that smirk off his ugly mug. Ditto for the radio. I turn it off.


17 posted on 08/20/2007 7:20:23 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: Obie Wan

Yeah, tell that to the Census Bureau.


18 posted on 08/20/2007 7:21:36 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: mefistofelerevised
"Sanctuary in a church? Didn’t that go out of style 400 years ago?"

Apparently not, but they have allowed heretic burning to lapse. You know how styles change.

19 posted on 08/20/2007 7:25:04 AM PDT by norton (It's because you're breaking the law you moron!)
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To: 3AngelaD

LOL.

I have posted a thread with a link if you change your mind. :)


20 posted on 08/20/2007 7:26:48 AM PDT by JRochelle (“Never trust a man who makes toys in a land where children are forbidden.”)
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