Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Average Incomes Fell for Most in 2000-5
New York Times ^ | August 21, 2007 | DAVID CAY JOHNSTON

Posted on 08/20/2007 7:55:04 PM PDT by BreezyDog

Americans earned a smaller average income in 2005 than in 2000, the fifth consecutive year that they had to make ends meet with less money than at the peak of the last economic expansion, new government data shows. While incomes have been on the rise since 2002, the average income in 2005 was $55,238, still nearly 1 percent less than the $55,714 in 2000, after adjusting for inflation, analysis of new tax statistics show. The combined income of all Americans in 2005 was slightly larger than it was in 2000, but because more people were dividing up the national income pie, the average remained smaller. Total adjusted gross income in 2005 was $7.43 trillion, up 3.1 percent from 2000 and 5.8 percent from 2004. Total income listed on tax returns grew every year after World War II, with a single one-year exception, until 2001, making the five-year period of lower average incomes and four years of lower total incomes a new experience for the majority of Americans born since 1945. The White House said the fact that average incomes were smaller five years after the Internet bubble burst “should not surprise anyone.” The growth in total incomes was concentrated among those making more than $1 million. The number of such taxpayers grew by more than 26 percent, to 303,817 in 2005, from 239,685 in 2000. These individuals, who constitute less than a quarter of 1 percent of all taxpayers, reaped almost 47 percent of the total income gains in 2005, compared with 2000.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: economics; economy; jobs; personalfinance; taxes; wages
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-79 next last
I don't want to read it. Where's the lie?
1 posted on 08/20/2007 7:55:05 PM PDT by BreezyDog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: BreezyDog

I had in the last two years and this coming the best ever

so ha ha ha


2 posted on 08/20/2007 7:57:08 PM PDT by al baby (Hi mom)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BreezyDog

>>The White House said the fact that average incomes were smaller five years after the Internet bubble burst “should not surprise anyone.” <<

What is the “Internet bubble”?


3 posted on 08/20/2007 7:59:31 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BreezyDog

“2000-5”? Is this some sort of new date-fad?


4 posted on 08/20/2007 7:59:34 PM PDT by JennysCool ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." -Mencken)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BreezyDog

Mr. mm’s income has gone up some every year, but not nearly as fast as gasoline, home heating oil, and taxes. I’m astounded at how our property and school taxes have gone up. No way we’re keeping up.


5 posted on 08/20/2007 8:00:38 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BreezyDog

The lie is that they are using purchasing power as an accounting method to deduct from income. The fact that there has been an explosive in energy prices after decades of dormant increases has made it appear that we have less purchasing power.

The problem is that modern advances in technology, even over the past 6 years, cannot be quantified and used to offset increasing prices.


6 posted on 08/20/2007 8:01:29 PM PDT by Perdogg (Cheney for President 2008)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BreezyDog
“Best economy ever!” (Bushbot bait.)
7 posted on 08/20/2007 8:02:20 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Republican DOES NOT equal Conservative!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BreezyDog

well for starters, it is a NYT’s story about the economy.

Secondly, the thrust of the article is that “lower taxes only benefit the welathy” is simply absurd.

Thirdly..food for though here:

http://www.heritage.org/Research/Taxes/wm586.cfm

The 90’s not only saw the “’Net Bubble” but also the first fruits of cough “frre trade” cough cough, when the greatest cost savings were realized by middle america, now middle america is facing the effects of cough cough “free trade” and instead of exporting goods we are importing them, costing Americans cush high paying jobs....


8 posted on 08/20/2007 8:04:36 PM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BreezyDog

The trick is taking the US economy at a strong peak 2000. The Clinton recession and Clinton inspired 911 attacks trashed the US economy and put it in a trough from which President Bush has dramatically recovered from.

Tax cuts brought the economy back from a desperate low in 2002.

Comparing to 2002 rather than 2000 would yield the true picture of President Bush’s impressive economic record.

I hope that doesnt put a damper on your effort toward clarity.


9 posted on 08/20/2007 8:05:10 PM PDT by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BreezyDog
I hear incomes went up in China. Maybe if we weren't trying to compete with a slave state...
10 posted on 08/20/2007 8:15:01 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Last Dakotan
We are competing with a debased currency. Check the value of the dollar - we lose.
11 posted on 08/20/2007 8:19:10 PM PDT by Sterlis (My brain is full.....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Last Dakotan
We are competing with a debased currency. Check the value of the dollar - we lose.
12 posted on 08/20/2007 8:19:15 PM PDT by Sterlis (My brain is full.....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Sterlis

Then it’s a global conspiracy to enslave all humans ... more money but higher prices .... phuque it ... i’m going out to the garden and eat wooley worms ... ate 3 yesterday.


13 posted on 08/20/2007 8:23:09 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: BreezyDog
"Americans earned a smaller average income in 2005 than in 2000,..."

COMPLETE BS! In 2000, I earned $53K, in 2007, I earn over $100K. That beats the inflation rate by far!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The 2001 & 2003 federal tax rate reduction for all WORKING Americans takes $3K - $4k less of your pay check!

So the SURGE is working and now the NYTs has to put out a BS piece! Poor babies!


14 posted on 08/20/2007 8:24:51 PM PDT by avacado
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sterlis
We are competing with a debased currency.

I agree.

15 posted on 08/20/2007 8:27:51 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Last Dakotan

Why not some more attention to the negative effects of illegal immigration on working class American’s ability to earn a living wage as well as our politicians sending our jobs to places like Mexico and China and telling us it’s good for the economy?


16 posted on 08/20/2007 8:30:38 PM PDT by Bushwacker777
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: avacado

Yea... the wife and I had a good few years too. Last year household was about a buck eighty. I still live paycheck to paycheck it seems. Oh well I’ll just make more.


17 posted on 08/20/2007 8:32:01 PM PDT by BreezyDog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: BreezyDog
"The White House said the fact that average incomes were smaller five years after the Internet bubble burst “should not surprise anyone.” The growth in total incomes was concentrated among those making more than $1 million."

Translation: You should have expected incomes to go down after we opened the borders and exported our manufacturing to China and outsourced our IT business to India, which we had to do to make our Wall Street friends and CEO buddies richer - er, "more competitive in the global marketplace".

18 posted on 08/20/2007 8:33:35 PM PDT by oldbill
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: metmom
Mr. mm’s income has gone up some every year, but not nearly as fast as gasoline, home heating oil, and taxes. I’m astounded at how our property and school taxes have gone up. No way we’re keeping up.

You're not alone.

19 posted on 08/20/2007 8:34:32 PM PDT by dragnet2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: oldbill

Exactly, what did the American middle class think would happen when they imported 25 million illegal low wage earners, that’ll work for 8 bucks an hour with a smile.


20 posted on 08/20/2007 8:36:37 PM PDT by dragnet2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-79 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson