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A North American road to nowhere
Toronto Globe and Mail ^ | August 21, 2007 | Gloria Galloway

Posted on 08/21/2007 4:59:36 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: Borax Queen

“So I appreciate that question. I’m amused by the difference between what actually takes place in the meetings and what some are trying to say takes place. It’s quite comical, actually, when you realize the difference between reality and what some people are talking on TV about.”

Oh really Jorge Bush, then why all the secrecy? Why not put your grandiose NAU plan to a vote and let the citizens decide. Truly an a**hole!


21 posted on 08/21/2007 6:41:46 PM PDT by doc
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To: doc

Completely and totally!! Just when I think he can’t say something more stupid than the last time... I’m unpleasantly surprised.


22 posted on 08/21/2007 6:43:32 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The EU was once just a ‘trade agreement’.

Now the Brits are getting a reality check.


23 posted on 08/21/2007 6:47:02 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (Sworn to oppose control freaks, foreign and domestic.)
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To: Borax Queen; fanfan; GMMAC; NorthOf45; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; Clintonfatigued; AuntB; ...
I'm not amused by the secrecy surrounding these meetings and by how the elitists continue to eat cake.>>>>>>>>>>

It doesn't take much of a leap to guess that the meetings real urgent topic of discussion would be:

1)Russian incursion into the Canadian Arctic.

2) Russian future incursion into the Caribbean, via Cuba and Venezuela.

3) Chinas control of the Panama Canal and incursion into the Caribbean and South America.

4) The containment of Chavez's rapidly expanding military might.

A new cold war era is upon us, and Mexico, Canada and the US are ill prepared. Canada has no significant military in proportion to its national defense needs. The US military is spread thin overseas. And Mexico's military is very busy battling drug gangs and insurgents in Chiapas. The West is now weak, and I suspect that the Montebello secrecy was necessary to enable strategic discussions between the three heads of state on expanding and improving the hemisphere’s military power, in order to protect Mexican Oil feels, Canada's resource- rich north, as well as their respective homelands.

You will hear nothing of this in the news, while all the xenophobic protests are on the straw man of protecting Canada's National Sovereignty from malicious conspiracies. They construct their own windmills and quixotically tilt at them, and then pat themselves on their backs like children.

This distraction strategy of this summit meeting has worked. Watch for upcoming military equipment and ordnance lend lease agreements as well as policy changes by all three in relation to China, Russia , and Venezuela. There are much bigger fish to fry than what is being reported in the press, who have all become slavishly rooted in supporting a bunch of liberal moonbats in their delusory, sordid political meanderings. Most Canadians think the protesters are a few cards short of a deck, and the protesters do not represent Canadian main stream thinking by a long shot.

Let them protest. Soon all Canadians will be glad our prime minister has had the foresight to strengthen and overhaul Canada's military, with the help of the USA and Mexico. And the protesters? Watch them fall silent when asked if they would stand to defend their nation, under arms, rather than merely caterwauling about maintaining sovereignty without the ability to defend the large land mass that is Canada. Nincompoops! As usual all talk and bluster, but they know not the real issue and its implication for their future.

Canada will soon be forced militarily occupy the North, or give up its sovereignty over vast stretches of territory replete with natural resources, to the expansionist Russians, who mean to choke the West of oil, and cause economic and social collapse. Putin's goal is the same in the Middle East

When I see these moonbat protestors at Montebello, I believe that the Russians are already successful in that regard. They constitute terminal case of the mouse that roared, and thank goodness that the majority of Canadians do not take them seriously.

24 posted on 08/21/2007 6:48:14 PM PDT by Candor7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Baghdad_(1258))
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To: Paperdoll

Here’s a thought:

Think of what it took for Americnas to accept a law like the Patriot Act.

Now, what will it take for us to accept the NAU?


25 posted on 08/21/2007 6:50:57 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (Sworn to oppose control freaks, foreign and domestic.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

26 posted on 08/21/2007 6:51:03 PM PDT by groanup (Limited government is the answer. What's the question?)
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To: Candor7

Bump


27 posted on 08/21/2007 6:51:30 PM PDT by kanawa (Don't go where you're looking, look where you're going.)
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To: Candor7

Interesting how your post 24 answers the question in my post 25.


28 posted on 08/21/2007 6:54:52 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (Sworn to oppose control freaks, foreign and domestic.)
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To: Borax Queen

“It’s quite comical, actually, when you realize the difference between reality and what some people are talking on TV about.”

What an uneducated, pinhead idiot. What terrible grammar.


29 posted on 08/21/2007 6:59:03 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
It's a threat that has left-wing Canadian nationalists and right-wing U.S. congressmen in rare and dismayed agreement: a freeway, four football fields wide, stretching from Mexico to northern Manitoba.

Name one good reason for building a highway -- of any size -- from Mexico to Hudson's Bay.

What are they gonna do? Ship jalapenos to Norway?

30 posted on 08/21/2007 7:03:31 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

Lol!


31 posted on 08/21/2007 7:06:39 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: okie01

Gonna make kipper quesadillas. LOL


32 posted on 08/21/2007 7:07:06 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: Borax Queen

Thank you, Borax Queen.

He embarrasses only himself and not the rest of us.


33 posted on 08/21/2007 7:12:29 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
That was a good catch - I completely missed it :)

I never fail to be amazed by how such losers climb the ladder of success. I can't even blame this one on Affirmative Action (like I can my boss who, like Bush, should be driving a school bus or selling popcorn. Nothing against the vendors who do that work.)

34 posted on 08/21/2007 7:23:25 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: ovrtaxt
Interesting how your post 24 answers the question in my post 25.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Your Post 25, posted after mine, so how could I answer it,

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Here’s a thought: Think of what it took for Americas to accept a law like the Patriot Act. Now, what will it take for us to accept the NAU?

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Here is my answer:

Read Canada's War Measures Act.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Measures_Act

http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~sprague/wma.htm

There is no need of a Patriot Act or its equivalent in Canada for the WMA can be invoked simply by an Order in Council by the Governor General, as directed by the P.M. That which you decry ( Patriot Act which you strangely and emotionally equate with the NAU)has existed for the better part of a Century in Canada in much more comprehensive form, as aptly demonstrated by Pierre Trudeau during the LaPorte Affair.

The US and Mexico have nothing quite so comprehensive as Canada's War Measures Act when it comes to the issue you raise, of devolutionary personal freedom. You presume erroniously that it is a strictly American affectation.

Defining the real issue all depends on whether you can face the larger strategic facts or not, and those facts call for a strategic dialog between the 3 leaders, and it has happened, thank God.

Soon the protesters will have the chance to put their money where their mouth is on Sovereignty, by signing up to serve, as will many thousands of Canadian Patriots.

Not that the WMA would be invoked anytime soon, but Canada has had legislation in place since 1914, which pales the Patriot Act, as we speak! *******************************************

Canada: War Measures Act:

War Measures Act, 1914

An Act to confer certain powers upon the Governor in Council in the event of War, Invasion, or Insurrection

Statutes of Canada (1914) Chapter 2.

SHORT TITLE.

1. This Act may be cited as the War Measures Act.

EVIDENCE OF WAR.

2. The issue of a proclamation by His Majesty, or under the authority of the Governor in Council shall be conclusive evidence that war, invasion, or insurrection, real or apprehended, exists and has existed for any period of time therein stated, and of its continuance, until by the issue of a further proclamation it is declared that the war, invasion or insurrection no longer exists.

POWERS OF THE GOVERNOR IN COUNCIL.

3. The Governor in Council may do and authorize such acts and things, and make from time to time such orders and regulations, as he may by reason of the existence of real or apprehended war, invasion or insurrection deem necessary or advisable for the security, defence, peace, order and welfare of Canada; and for greater certainty, but not so as to restrict the generality of the foregoing terms, it is hereby declared that the powers of the Governor in Council shall extend to all matters coming within the classes of subjects hereinafter enumerated, that is to say:-

(a) Censorship and the control and suppression of publications, writings, maps, plans, photographs, communications and means of communication;

(b) Arrest,, detention,, exclusion and deportation;

(c) Control of the harbours, ports and territorial waters of Canada and the movements of vessels;

(d) Transportation by land, air, or Water and the control of the transport of persons and things;

(e) Trading, exportation, importation, production and manufacture;

(f) Appropriation, control, forfeiture and disposition of property and of the use thereof.

2. All orders and regulations made under this section shall have the force of law, and shall be enforced in such manner and by such courts, officers and authorities as the Governor in Council may prescribe, and may be varied, extended or revoked by any subsequent order or regulation; but if any order or regulation is varied, extended or revoked, neither the previous operation thereof nor anything duly done thereunder, shall be affected thereby, nor shall any right, privilege, obligation or liability acquired, accrued, accruing or incurred thereunder be affected by such variation, extension or revocation.

4. The Governor in Council may prescribe the penalties that may be imposed for violations of orders and regulations made under this Act, and may also prescribe whether such penalties shall be imposed upon summary conviction or upon indictment, but no such penalty shall exceed a fine of five thousand dollars or imprisonment for any term not exceeding five years, or both fine and imprisonment.

5. No person who is held for deportation under this Act or under any regulation made thereunder, or is under arrest or detention as an alien enemy, or upon suspicion that he is an alien enemy, or to prevent his departure from Canada, shall be released upon bail or otherwise discharged or tried, without the consent of the Minister of Justice.

6. The provisions of the three sections last preceding shall only be in force during war, invasion, or insurrection, real or apprehended.

PROCEDURE.

7. Whenever any property or the use, thereof has been appropriated by His Majesty under the provisions of this Act, or any order in council, order or regulation made thereunder, and compensation is to be made therefor and has not been agreed upon, the claim shall be referred by the Minister of Justice to the Exchequer Court, or to a superior or county court of the province within which the claim arises, or to a judge of any such court.

8. Any ship or vessel used or moved, or any goods,: wares or merchandise dealt with, contrary to any order or regulation made under this Act, may be seized and detained and shall be liable to forfeiture, at the instance of the Minister of Justice, upon proceedings in the Exchequer Court of Canada or in any superior court.

9. Every court mentioned in the two sections last preceding may make rules governing the procedure upon any reference made to, or proceedings taken before, such court or a judge thereof under the said sections.

35 posted on 08/21/2007 7:24:02 PM PDT by Candor7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Baghdad_(1258))
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To: Candor7

never mind.


36 posted on 08/21/2007 7:25:48 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (Sworn to oppose control freaks, foreign and domestic.)
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To: kanawa

How was your summer, and how is the pooch?


37 posted on 08/21/2007 7:26:49 PM PDT by Candor7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Baghdad_(1258))
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Conspiracy or not, why did 25 members of the House send a letter to the President asking for more “Transparency” regarding the SPP and NAFTA?


38 posted on 08/21/2007 7:29:54 PM PDT by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

You know, I’m no Bush fan, but I’m absolutely sick of newspapers calling him Mr. Bush instead of President Bush, especially foreign papers.


39 posted on 08/21/2007 7:31:23 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: ovrtaxt
OK, but the issue facing Canada in its Northern reaches is a serious one. And so far it seems that Canadians have been fed a lot of tripe by the press, TV and radio Media in Canada, rather than raising the real strategic concerns which face Canada, by asking those kind of questions at Montebello and of Prime Minister Harper. I would like to know what he plans to do, and the sooner the better.

Sometimes I think that there is somekind of Moonbat virus tha sweeps the national media.Or is it indelible liberalism which sees a nasty American capitalist pig behind every bush ( no pun intended) on the lawn?

Today I heard many Canadians on AM 800 out of Montreal complaining on a talk show about the trite news coverage out of Montebello. Thank goodness the majority of Canadians are thinkers rather than the 30 or so tinkers who had their self aggrandizing moments on center stage.

40 posted on 08/21/2007 7:36:15 PM PDT by Candor7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Baghdad_(1258))
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