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Hunter Pushes President to Build Border Fence
http://campaignsandelections.com/nh/releases/index.cfm?ID=3208 ^

Posted on 08/22/2007 10:23:18 AM PDT by Califreak

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To: pissant

OOOOOOPs. 2006!


Kinda like Wednesday, August 21, 2007?.... LOL

Your candidate may have an opportunity to shine a bit next weekend in the Texas Straw poll to be held in Fort Worth. I’m not sure what the ballot will look like regarding which candidates names will be listed. But there are only four candidates signed up as I read the info out there and they are: Hunter, Brownback, Huckabee and Paul. None of the big three or Thompson will be in attendance.

The poll was once thought to be of major importance but the Tx Legislature failed to move the Tx Primary forward so now the primary occurs after some 60% of the nationwide primary votes have been cast. They were hoping for some 10,000 attendees but now they are saying 2,000 and that is probably over stated.


61 posted on 08/22/2007 3:31:32 PM PDT by deport (>>>--Keep your powder dry--<<< [ Meanwhile:-- Cue Spooky Music--])
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To: All

Build Duncan Hunter’s fence, Mr. President!


62 posted on 08/22/2007 3:35:14 PM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-life/borders, understands Red China threat! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: TexasCajun

“Front-runner for me.”

WTG!

Duncan Hunter said the fence would be a double fence, with border patrol in between the two fences, and also has asked President Bush to put up cameras.

GREAT plan, I would say.

The other candidates TALK about building the fence, but it was Duncan Hunter’s bill to build the double fence, that was signed into law.

P.S. Perhaps you would write a letter’s editor, or call a talk show in Texas to help Hunter.


63 posted on 08/22/2007 3:43:37 PM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-life/borders, understands Red China threat! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: Califreak
"Border Reality 101"

This is what most of our southern border looks like: there is no government-built fence at all. There is often just whatever is left over from some forgotten cattle fence, built privately to keep U.S. cattle from wandering freely into Mexico. For hundreds of miles there is not even a broken cattle fence, there is nothing at all.

For comparison, below the broken cattle fence photo is a sample of an inexpensive but highly effective double border fence system, with a plowed strip to reveal footprints. This type of system is very cheap and can be built with great speed.

Here is what some of San Diego County has: a wall made of rusty Viet Nam-era runway mats. The corrugations are even horizontal, (to make climbing easier?)

Here is what the border looks like where the runway mat wall exists. Mexico begins on the other side of the ineffective rusty wall, which actually helps the smugglers, by hiding their movements until the occasional USBP vehicle has driven out of sight.

This is how "the game" is played. Smugglers hide on the other side of the wall with their dope and/or their illegals, out of sight of the USBP. They wait for the highly visible white BP vehicle to drive over the distant hills. Lookouts with cell phones and walkie-talkies report on the current locations of the BP units. They know with certainty that "the coast is clear" for an hour or two, and the smugglers and illegals hop the fence and run into the scrub only 50 yards away. From there, they are out of sight, and they walk 1-2 miles to holding houses. Then they wait for nightfall, and are picked up and driven in vans to LA or San Diego.

Next, we see the Duncan Hunter 15' fence, which is already being built along a few "showplace" miles of San Diego, mainly near the ports of entry, where panderng politicians can conveniently show it off to gullible reporters. As you can see, the rusty runway wall is seen at the left side, Mexico begins on the other side. In areas with the 15 foot fence, dope smugglers and illegals will have to cross the open sand ("the government road" as it is called) before starting to try to get over the 15 foot fence.

This new fence is extremely tough, and resists cutting. Attacking the fence would have to be done right out in the open, in full view of cameras. This type of fence, on the U.S. side of the government road, will give the USBP a barrier to patrol, instead of forcing them to chase illegals around 100,000 square miles of wide-open frontier land, which is a fool's errand. Everywhere this modern multiple fence system has been built, crossings by illegals drop to almost nil.

This ain't rocket science, folks. We're not talking about something like the Hoover Dam project, (which we managed to build 70 years ago). The world's last superpower, which put a man on the moon 35 years ago, can build a couple thousand miles of simple and effective fencing.

This is how it's being built in San Diego county, along the last 14 miles out to the ocean. The total cost of the entire fence from the Gulf of Mexico to the Pacific would be about 5 billion dollars, or what we spend medicating, hospitalizing, educating, and incarcerating illegal aliens just about every month. In other words, the fence would pay for itself immediately.

Or, we can continue our current policy.


64 posted on 08/22/2007 7:54:56 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Sun

Bump to above.


65 posted on 08/22/2007 7:56:08 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee

Thank you.

When I tell people how Israel’s fence works for them, they say but Israel has a wall. The fence on the Israel/Syria border looks like a FENCE to me.


66 posted on 08/22/2007 11:37:21 PM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-life/borders, understands Red China threat! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: Sun

Wall are only better where a border goes right through an urban area. I think Israel has about 5% wall and the rest is a fence system.


67 posted on 08/23/2007 5:02:02 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Califreak

Thank you, Congressman Duncan Hunter!


68 posted on 08/23/2007 5:58:24 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (Hunter and Tancredo in '08! La Raza - the PLO of the Western Hemisphere)
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To: ravingnutter
“. . . the difference between authorization and appropriation. Bush can’t do a danged thing about the fence without funding and Congress has the sole responsibility for appropriating funds.”

Then GWB should be camping over at the Capitol building instead of making trips to Queerbec ! And I mean CAMPING until he gets the nickels he needs for the fence/wall. Somehow I believe a President Hunter would be doing just that.
69 posted on 08/23/2007 6:05:01 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: Sun

You are missing the point...yes, he built a 14 mile fence, but there are thousands of miles of border. All I am saying is that Congress has not provided the funding for the remainder of the fence. The people I am debating with do not know how the Govt. works, there is a difference between authorization (to build the fence) and appropriation (to fund the fence). They are blaming Bush for the fence not being built, when only Congress can appropriate the funding to build it.


70 posted on 08/23/2007 6:05:54 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: John Leland 1789
Then GWB should be camping over at the Capitol building instead of making trips to Queerbec ! And I mean CAMPING until he gets the nickels he needs for the fence/wall. Somehow I believe a President Hunter would be doing just that.

Then why isn't Senator Hunter doing just that? Oh, that's right, he just went on vacation without passing the DoD Appropriations bill which has the fence funding amendment attached. Good grief, people, how many times do I have to repeat myself...it is the responsibility of Congress to appropriate funding! I am almost to the point of breaking out into the Schoolhouse Rock song so it will be simple enough for y'all to grasp.

71 posted on 08/23/2007 6:12:19 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: pissant

First of all, the law couldn’t have been signed Oct 26th, 2007..., look at a calendar dear, that date isn’t even here yet. Where did you get this information? I am beginning to think the only thing moot here is trying to educate you on how the Govt. works.


72 posted on 08/23/2007 6:27:37 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: ravingnutter
Let’s find out the reason Hunter didn’t holler & squawk about the non-passing of the DoD bill. Let’s just find out the reason. But it doesn’t let the President off the hook.

If it was a case of Hunter not doing something when he could have, then I will also personally speak out in criticism of Hunter's lapse and inconsistency. But the entire Washington establishment is dragging its tail on securing our borders and stopping the invasion. INCLUDING GW BUSH ! Further, funding for the fence being in a DoD appropriations bill should suggest that it is part of NATIONAL DEFENSE to build that wall. I believe that it most certainly is, BUT virtually the entire Fed is fighting the war in every theater in such a way as to lose the war.

73 posted on 08/23/2007 7:11:00 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: ravingnutter

Typo, obviously.


74 posted on 08/23/2007 7:41:25 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: ravingnutter

You are still mistaken. 1.2 billion has been approved. there is approx $700 mil left. That is a fact. Whatever semantic games the democrats are playing are besides the point. Chertoff just the other day said he expects to start building portions of the Texas fence this fall. Now Chertoff is trying to weasle out of making it a double fence, and he has been dragging his feet every step of the way, but obviously, they have funds.


75 posted on 08/23/2007 7:49:47 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: ravingnutter

I do not dispute anything that you say, but people would be less inclined to lay any of this on Bush if 1) he had not pushed for the Shamnesty bill, and 2) he would lean on Congress for the funding of the fence at least half as much as he did for the Shamnesty bill.

I say this as a proud, get-out-of-Cheney’s-house Bushbot of longstanding.


76 posted on 08/23/2007 7:54:43 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Duncan Hunter in 2008!)
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To: rineaux

...stop, stop twice than shoot....

&&&
Works for me.


77 posted on 08/23/2007 7:57:19 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Duncan Hunter in 2008!)
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To: ravingnutter

With only a small fraction of the border fence between the U.S. and Mexico complete, California congressman and Republican presidential candidate Duncan Hunter is warning President Bush the construction mandated by the Secure Fence Act is falling drastically behind schedule.

“Unless construction is promptly accelerated,” Hunter wrote in a letter to Bush, “deadlines for the completion of fencing will not be met.”

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Hunter’s letter points out the Secure Fence Act calls for completing 392 miles of fencing from Calexico, Calif., to Douglas, Ariz., by May 30, 2008.

Additionally, the act mandates 30 miles of fencing be completed in the Laredo, Texas, sector by Dec. 31, 2008.

“It is my understanding that approximately $800 million is currently available for the installation of border infrastructure,” Hunter’s letter continued. “Despite this funding, only 17.9 of the 854 miles of fencing called for in the Secure Fence Act have been completed as of Aug. 10, 2007.”

Hunter emphasized, “This lack of progress is unacceptable, especially when adequate funding is available to earnestly proceed with fence construction.”

The leaders of the U.S., Canada and Mexico conferred this week over the Security and Prosperity Partnership in Montebello, Quebec

He recommended President Bush “immediately direct the Department of Homeland Security to execute contracts in a way that all fencing locations identified in the Secure Fence Act are constructed concurrently.”

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57285

Now I’m sure you follow politics closely, but I’m not so sure you follow this as closely as Hunter does. And Hunter has the ability to ask Homeland Security directly, and he has, about remaining funds they have. Either Hunter is a liar, or you are incorrect.


78 posted on 08/23/2007 8:01:18 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: ravingnutter

It is Thursday morning in the States. I’m in Shanghai. I’m listening to Tom Tancredo live over the Internet on Fox, and he just said,

“We have everything in place...have given the president the monetary means to secure the borders...we have everything in place except for one thing...a president.”


79 posted on 08/23/2007 8:30:59 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: ravingnutter
“Then why isn’t Senator Hunter doing just that? Oh, that’s right, he just went on vacation without passing the DoD Appropriations bill which has the fence funding amendment attached”

I just heard the figure 5 minutes ago over FOX News, $800,000,000 (8 hundred million) was appropriated to building the wall by the last Congress. “the president has not put the first shovel in the dirt.”
80 posted on 08/23/2007 8:50:30 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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