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The "Culture of the Drunk" Migrates Northward
Street Level ^ | 8/26/07 | Darvin Dowdy

Posted on 08/26/2007 8:15:32 AM PDT by Darvin Dowdy

Texas and other border states have suffered as a result of illegal immigration for years. And we've received zero help from the northern states until some of that pain and suffering began to “migrate” north into their backyards and have a negative effect upon them. But that’s what we’ve learned to expect from the more self-centered segment of our U.S. population in the north/northeast. Ha! And so now it seems that they are on board with us and, hey, better late than never. Welcome aboard! We luv ya!

So now that most of the nation is on the same page, as the polls show, it might help solidify and unify our efforts if we break it down a bit. Analyze the problem. Actually there is a myriad of categories under the heading “Illegal Immigration Problem”. ( link ) One category that has been in the national news lately has been that of drunken illegals driving and killing U.S. citizens. You have the “Geraldo Riveras’” of the world saying that it is “irrelevant” that the perpetrator is illegal and that it could have just as easily been a drunken legal resident or citizen. Not so fast Geraldo. MADD says your wrong. I think they’ve done a few studies on the subject and know a bit more than Geraldo. (which isn’t saying much) MADD says just the opposite. Something that we, here in Texas, have known for decades. And that is, along with the illegal immigrants came their “drinking culture”. And we’re talking mostly the men folk here where drinking to excess is considered machismo or something like that. And according to the MADD study, conducted by the Alcohol Policy Group, drinking in Mexico can start at the tender age of 12 (or younger) and is considered a “rite of passage”. And get this – in Mexico there are 2 “Drunk Drivers Nights” per year! Christmas and New Years where its “hands off” of all drunk drivers by the authorities. Can you imagine this? It’d be fun to get on the roof of a sturdy building and watch the destruction derby below. But this fabulous MADD study clearly shows that the instance of drunk driving is lopsided in favor of Hispanics and apparently/specifically those from south of the border.

So the question begs to be answered. Can the surge in dui/drunk driving incidences be directly attributed to the increase of illegal immigrants streaming across our southern border? Seems a fairly easy question to answer. Huhmm? Darvin Dowdy


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To: Darvin Dowdy

21 posted on 08/26/2007 9:19:18 AM PDT by AnnaZ (I keep 2 magnums in my desk.One's a gun and I keep it loaded.Other's a bottle and it keeps me loaded)
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To: Lokibob

“American spectator” should be “townhall”
“Your link goes to their” should read “your link in Townhall goes to”.

Damn, I hate bad writing, even in my own bad writing.

....Bob


22 posted on 08/26/2007 9:20:29 AM PDT by Lokibob (Some people are like slinkys. Useless, but if you throw them down the stairs, you smile.)
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To: umgud
Amerindians, or "Native Americans" are among those racial groupings whose individual members have the greatest statistical chance of lacking the enzyme set that metabolizes alcohol. This has been known for decades.

Many Mexicans have a high percentage of "Native American" admixture in the gene pool. The result: IMHO, lower-end Mexican "culture" is very drunken, and extremely violent.

I can understand why this might be considered a "racist" statement. But if law enforcement personnel is made as aware of it as they are of the extreme alcohol and substance abuse problems around Indian Reservations, it might be useful.

23 posted on 08/26/2007 10:16:09 AM PDT by Zerodown (Petraeus: The next Eisenhower.)
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To: Zerodown

Political correctness will be our downfall.


24 posted on 08/26/2007 10:28:32 AM PDT by umgud
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To: Darvin Dowdy

See Pedro drink
See Pedro drive
See Pedro crash
See Pedro kill

See Geraldo wring his hands.


25 posted on 08/26/2007 10:37:24 AM PDT by Bullish ( Reality is the best cure for delusion.)
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To: Lokibob

Hey Bob. Lighten up. No one likes a hair splitter. I’m an opnionator (is that a word?) not a reporter. My piece is loaded w/links but for some reason they don’t show up on FR. (am I doing something wrong?help!)You can go to my site and check them all out if you desire. I want to ask a favor of you. Memorize this name: DARVIN DOWDY. If you don’t like my posts - don’t read ‘em. Simple as that. There’s a lot of good posts on FR and other places. Skip on to the next one.
But if you do decide to read and comment, all I can say is that I appreciate you taking the time to do so. DD


26 posted on 08/26/2007 10:56:03 AM PDT by Darvin Dowdy
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To: Darvin Dowdy

This is a very serious problem. They kill several of us a day.


27 posted on 08/26/2007 12:19:56 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: Darvin Dowdy
Juan Felix Salinas

Wreck suspect here illegally, officials say (killed family of three)

By MIKE GLENN Houston Chronicle - August 2007

A man accused of causing a fiery wreck that killed a family of three on the East Freeway is in the country illegally, authorities said. Juan Felix Salinas, 42, voluntarily returned to his home in Nuevo Leon, Mexico, two years ago, officials said. But he returned to the U.S., eventually making his way back to the Houston area.

Salinas remained in police custody Monday, charged with three counts of intoxication manslaughter in the deaths of Tenisha Williams, 26; her husband, S.J. Williams; and her son, Xavier Brown, 2. His bail has been set at $90,000 — $30,000 for each death.

Houston police said Salinas was speeding and rapidly changing lanes about 8:30 p.m. Saturday when he rear-ended a Toyota Corolla in the 8700 block of Interstate 10. The Toyota caught fire and eventually was engulfed in flames. The family was pronounced dead at the scene. Salinas, who suffered minor injuries in the wreck, had a blood-alcohol level of .24 — three times the .08 legal limit for intoxication in Texas.

When the van slammed into the Toyota, Salinas had been free on bond from a March 31 family violence incident in Jacinto City. The case remains open, authorities said.

On Saturday, bystanders struggled to save the young family. Some used hand- held fire extinguishers to hold back the flames while others attempted to pry open the doors. Felinda Williams said she was grateful to everyone who tried to save her daughter, grandson and son-in-law. "At least somebody cared enough," a grieving Williams said Monday. "They put themselves in danger trying to help them." Williams said she will closely follow the case against Salinas as it progresses. "When he's in court, I'm going to be in court," she said. "He tore a whole family apart."


Best friends killed in crash in Va. Beach

11:18 PM EDT on Monday, April 2, 2007

A man charged with killing two best friends in a Friday night crash admitted in a Va. Beach court Monday he's in the country illegally. Alfredo Ramos, 22, is charged with two counts of aggravated involuntary manslaughter. 13News was in court where we learned Ramos doesn't speak English and so used an interpreter.

Police said Ramos was speeding westbound on Virginia Beach Boulevard when he slammed into the rear of a car stopped at the red light at Kings Grant Road.

Allison Kunhardt, 17, and Tessa Tranchant, 16, were pinned in Kunhardt's Plymouth Duster in the 10:35 p.m. collision. Emergency personnel pulled them out of the car and rushed them to the hospital, where they later died.

Police told 13News Kunhardt was a student First Colonial High School and Tranchant was a student at Kellam High School.

"I just separated from the military. I’ve just been home two weeks. I just wanted to spend time with my family," said Dylan Tranchant, Tessa Trenchant’s brother. Dylan Tranchant just got home from the war in Iraq, and had to identify his sister’s body over the weekend.

Dozens of relatives and friends gathered Sunday to console each other and to remember the girls who were inseparably close friends. The girls became close friends when Tessa's mother started dating Allison's father. "They were definitely inseparable," said Allison's father, David Kunhardt. "I've never seen a closer friendship. They would finish each other's sentences."

Police said they believe Ramos had been drinking before the crash. (Ramos had already been convicted of DUI, plus 3 other public intoxication arrests, but identity theft, driving without a license, etc.)

Police also said additional charges may be filed against Ramos, who lives in the 100 block of Trace Court. Commonwealth's Attorney Harvey Bryant says it's not unusual for police to know someone's in the country illegally and not send them back. He says it requires three DUI's before immigration officials are notified.

Allison Kunhardt's father thinks that needs to change. "Illegal means illegal. It makes no sense, you get three DUI's before you're deported. It's not baseball, three strikes you're out. You're dealing with people's lives," said David Kunhardt.


Roberto Martinez Ruiz: Illegal alien hit and run killer.

Three weeks before Kailya Goodman turned 10, her father was killed when an illegal immigrant plowed a sport utility vehicle into his motorcycle on a Thornton street on July 1, 2004. Justin Goodman of Denver bled to death on the side of the road. He was 31. The man convicted of the hit-and-run that killed Kailya's father was Roberto Martinez-Ruiz, who had come to Colorado illegally from Mexico. He had a record of arrests in Colorado on charges of drunken driving, hit-and-run and other misdemeanors that spanned almost a decade, court records show. Not once was his name turned over to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, ICE officials told a TV reporter — not until the accident that killed Goodman. "We have that level of criminal right in our hands, and we're just letting them go," said Carol Vizzi, Justin Goodman's mother.



28 posted on 08/26/2007 12:32:39 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com--)
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To: Travis McGee

Dang.


29 posted on 08/26/2007 12:51:42 PM PDT by patton (Congress would lose money running a brothel.)
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To: Bullish
See Pedro drink See Pedro drive See Pedro crash See Pedro kill See Geraldo wring his hands.

Not really...it's see Whorealdo say: "it's irrelevant"....

30 posted on 08/26/2007 1:19:22 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("If you’re drawing flak, you know you're over the target".)
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To: stm
I like it!


31 posted on 08/26/2007 1:47:03 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("If you’re drawing flak, you know you're over the target".)
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To: Darvin Dowdy

IIRC, it was the vehicular homicide of some very respected school-teachers
by a drunk ILLEGAL that got the Charlotte, NC police to start checking
immigration status of detainees.

I bet this came as a RUDE shock not only to our standard ILLEGALS.
Because the police chief said that 90% of the illegals discovered
were from south of the border.
So that means there are illegals from places like Canada, Ireland,
Europe and Asia that got the shock of their life when asked their
immigration status after being picked up for (relatively) minor offenses!


32 posted on 08/26/2007 1:57:33 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Darvin Dowdy

Geraldo needs to go into any American city and talk to the First Responders, they’ll tell him who’s doing what.


33 posted on 08/26/2007 1:59:15 PM PDT by Aquamarine
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To: Darvin Dowdy
Go to any convenience store at noon time and see who's buying all the 12 packs of beer. The Mexicans. They'll drink it in the parking lot, then take off in their cars.

Of course the police are too busy ticketing old ladies for minor parking infractions to bother with the drunks.

34 posted on 08/26/2007 3:41:26 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: Disambiguator
"The littering thing goes along with it, too."

I lived in Garden City, KS about 20 years ago and was plagued by that problem. I would go to my backyard which shared a front side yard, driveway with the neighbor. I was constantly cleaning up empties until one day just got fed up. After this moment, every time I found empties in our yard where they were pitched upon the bugs disembarking from whatever vehicle; I would pitch them over the vehicles and into their front yard. This did not happen too many times before I witnessed the public bracing of one of those macho drunks by a petite female of that house. Never had any more litter in the backyard while I lived there.

Now if I could just figure out how to launch the garbage through the side-windows of the pigs who stop along the road near my house these days :^]

35 posted on 08/26/2007 3:51:11 PM PDT by Dust in the Wind (I ** looked to heaven and my sanity was restored.)
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To: umgud
It’s not just drunk driving. The alcohol promotes lots of other crime.

There's another thing. When I've been in Mexico I noticed most people don't drive or have a car. I think many of them don't 'get' the entire concept. It's something we all do and they don't. Much of this is not just blending cultures, it's a feeble attempt at blending centuries of development and lack of it.

36 posted on 08/26/2007 5:39:17 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: Zerodown
Amerindians, or "Native Americans" are among those racial groupings whose individual members have the greatest statistical chance of lacking the enzyme set that metabolizes alcohol. This has been known for decades. Many Mexicans have a high percentage of "Native American" admixture in the gene pool. The result: IMHO, lower-end Mexican "culture" is very drunken, and extremely violent. I can understand why this might be considered a "racist" statement. But if law enforcement personnel is made as aware of it as they are of the extreme alcohol and substance abuse problems around Indian Reservations, it might be useful.

Some recent studies have concluded that various cultures that used alchohol for centuries had no problem, but where it was introduced to new groups of people they did not do well with it for a long time, some have not adapted to it yet, perhaps because of some enzyme as you noted. Kind of a biological evolution to metabolize booze, I suppose.

I found this earlier doing some research. In the early 1900s a Native American caught in Indian Territory with booze got 4 months jail and a $100 fine. US District court. If you were an Indian, you couldn't even drink at home!

Another post talked about an illegal alien that didn't go to jail after 14 dui arrests, but if you were an Indian in the USA not long ago you sure did. Shows how far we've come, baby! lol

37 posted on 08/26/2007 5:52:58 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: AuntB

TO ALL:

thanks for all the absolute fantastic replies/comments. And thanks for taking the time to join in on this very important discussion.

Darvin Dowdy


38 posted on 08/27/2007 5:12:25 AM PDT by Darvin Dowdy
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To: Darvin Dowdy

Thank you Darvin Downdy, my pleasure! You are too kind.


39 posted on 08/27/2007 8:22:29 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: Aquamarine

Good to ‘see’ you, Aquamarine!


40 posted on 08/27/2007 8:23:43 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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