Is any better than using this
Posted on 08/26/2007 9:04:26 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta
One day does not a summer make. You seem to have had a childhood more severe than normal and your experience seems to have colored your attitude towards this story. The 'Child Abuse' here, if accurately portrayed, is well within normal limits. Parents have, or should have, lots of leeway in the way they raise their young. The fact that today most parents want to be buddies with their children only makes it seem like this is child abuse. Looked at through the prism of parent/child relationships, there is nothing wrong. So sorry for your harsh experiece, but it is not the same as this case, if it is as told.
“Looked at through the prism of parent/child relationships, there is nothing wrong.”
Dad admitted to using the bat as punishment for slow running times.
I wouldn’t say there is “nothing” wrong with that.
On the other hand, if dad backed off and ditched the ‘ole Russian ex-Olympian approach...maybe that would be preferrable to foster care.
Please read (or reread) the article. Bruises (accumulated over time) were considered along with a pattern of the girl running away/hiding under the neighbor's house. From the articles, it was more than just a 'bad day.'
threeeeeee huuuunnnnndreeeed and ssssevvventttyyyyy......
Michael...Mommy will have to come right up there and get you unless you agree to come down...PLEASE MICHAEL...Mommy really doesn’t WANT to come all the way up there but the nice store man is going to turn off the lights...How about we come back tomorrow and go RIGHT BACK UP there on that shelf so you can finish looking around?
We could go by the toy store on the way?
Michael???
Michael???
I fear for this country when these kids grow up...
Do they actually “Grow up”?
Don’t they just spend the rest of their lives basing all relationships on what they “can get out of them”?
Can you imagine?
How completely sad that is...
And I know what happens to many of them..they end up working with me in high school because they are short on credits and can’t graduate on time.
Most are labeled “Learning disabled”...they should have actually been labeled “parentally disabled”..
It really disgusts me.
Kind of like the female who pretended to be kidnapped to avoid a marriage she wanted to bail from at the last minute, for the third time, or something?
I can’t imagine a life of always expecting someone to bail you out.
RIGHT!
SO RIGHT!
I remember thinking that was the strangest thing!
(pretending to be kidnapped?? CRIKEY!)
Okay... are we talking about not making your bed to his "bounce the quarter" specifications, or just not making the bed at all?
Most kids would rather make the bed than do 1000 deep knee bends daily for months.
I'm no stranger to military-style PT as a "teaching tool", but I learned to avoid the things that made my ex-Gunnery Sergeant dad mete out the "dying cockroach" punishment.
For a time my daughter was quite mean to her little brother. She’d pinch him, hit, etc. I decided to have her do 20 jumping jacks everytime she did this. I was getting tired of swats and time outs. They were too predictable and I needed something to get her attention. If we had a lap-friendly backyard, laps would work, too.
ok...is there any special reason you’re addressing that comment to me?
What did I say that you are responding to?
It was going on over a 4 year period.
I don’t know these children and don’t have any adopted children, but a well-respected Christian therapist/counselor in the Phoenix area once stated that every adopted child he had worked with was manipulative. I am NOT saying these children are that way, but it’s certainly possible.
Exercise as punishment in my house would never work, I have 3 boys and they are too competitive with one another. I could see it now, “I could do more push-ups than that,” “Yeah, well lets see you do it then” “Ok, and I want you to time me too” It could go on like that for hours.
Although the recent cases in the news of female public school teachers having affairs with young boys are atrocious, one might note that there have also been teachers who have been falsely accused...
Yet many here seem to presume that homeschool parents are being unfairly persecuted, and conversely, that public school teachers are justly accused.
Kind of brings us back to an earlier point that the presumption of guilt or innocence sometimes seems to depend on who is being accused.
I am absolutely positive these children had issues, they were adopted at the ages of 7 & 9 from the Ukraine. One of two scenerios, either they came from a horrible home and their parents gave them up or they came from an institution. Either way, it does not make for an easy situation. Compound that with a different language, different culture and different country.
My son who last year was in the 4th grade had a little boy in his class that was newly adopted from Russia. I had talked with his mom many times, she admitted things were very hard. His mother and grandmother were alcoholics and signed both he and his sister away. They had a very rough life. There adoption was a very slow process where they visited with the children in Russia for a month and then the children came here to the US for a summer. So far it seems the boy and his sister are adjusting well. The parents seem very patient, the kids are involved with their church youth groups, they played recreational sports at the park and the other kids in school have embraced them. I remember my son coming home last year telling me he and his buddies were going to teach the boy english, it was their job.
That´s ··deafening··.
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